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picassotheninjaturtle 09-10-2016 12:15 PM

Casey Jones the worst character?
 
It seems that no matter how grave the situation is, Casey always finds it "wicked" and "sick". I think he's the worst character.

CyberCubed 09-10-2016 12:20 PM

This thread needs to be locked.

TurtleTitan97 09-10-2016 12:22 PM

Your account needs to be locked.

snake 09-10-2016 12:35 PM

Nick Casey, to me is not Casey Jones. He's too annoying and is only there because Casey is such a popular character. The show has done NOTHING with him, and it sucks because Casey has such potential as a character.

Even if Mirage Casey was intended to be a parody of vigilantes, it's still a damn cool idea.

ToTheNines 09-10-2016 01:07 PM

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Originally Posted by TurtleTitan97 (Post 1622056)
Your account needs to be locked.

It really does. I know you all think I'm an asshole to cubed, but when he acts like a dick head to newer members for no reason, it really hurts this place. It's unfair to the new people and it's unfair to the rest of us who might like more diversity to the discussions here... rather than hearing about 150 episodes for the millionth time, or his woody for that derpface Benoist.

Anyways, on topic. While they did a great job with CJ's design, the Nick version leaves something to be desired. On top of him being annoying, I miss him having an actual friendship with Raph. Also wish he was actually crazy, but that's never too late!

The Happy One 09-10-2016 02:15 PM

I pretend that's just some other kid that follows them around. I can't think of him as Casey when, characteristically, he is nothing like Jones. At least in my opinion

CylonsKlingonsDaleksOhMy 09-10-2016 02:20 PM

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Originally Posted by snake (Post 1622060)
Nick Casey, to me is not Casey Jones. He's too annoying and is only there because Casey is such a popular character. The show has done NOTHING with him, and it sucks because Casey has such potential as a character.

Even if Mirage Casey was intended to be a parody of vigilantes, it's still a damn cool idea.

He's there simply because people expect him to be there, but as far as I can tell, they've done little to nothing with the character other than "extra in a hockey mask."

Correct me if I'm wrong.

snake 09-10-2016 03:02 PM

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Originally Posted by CylonsKlingonsDaleksOhMy (Post 1622092)
He's there simply because people expect him to be there, but as far as I can tell, they've done little to nothing with the character other than "extra in a hockey mask."

Correct me if I'm wrong.

Yep. Nick Casey doesn't even bond with Raph. What the f*ck, man?

CyberCubed 09-10-2016 04:17 PM

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Originally Posted by The Happy One (Post 1622088)
I pretend that's just some other kid that follows them around. I can't think of him as Casey when, characteristically, he is nothing like Jones. At least in my opinion

What does this mean? Casey's personality is always wildly different from incarnation.

Mirage = Starts off a maniac but then calms down and becomes a father

Fred Wolf = Complete maniac

4kids = Is a bit of a moron, becomes a bit of a joke and teddy bear although a good fighter

90's movies = Probably the most realistic interpetation of what Jones would be if he existed in real life

IDW = College kid trying to do right by his dad (who is Hun in that version)

Nick = High school kid who is metal


See, this is why I don't understand what you people want. You guys claim characters are not the same, when every version does something different.

BubblyShell22 09-10-2016 05:22 PM

I don't think he's the worst character at all. I think he gets pretty annoying when he and Don are fighting over April, but other than that, I don't really have a problem with him. I do wish he would bond more with Raph though as others have said.

neatoman 09-10-2016 07:12 PM

Is Casey the worst character? Depends on what category we're talking here.

As a main character? Maybe? He is kind of useless and, yes, the proclamations of "This so Metal" is kind of annoying. I find Mikey to be a little more annoying than him but it might have more to do with his prominence.

How he's handled compared to other versions of the character? Oh yeah, he's certainly the most mishandled iteration of the character I've seen outside of the FW cartoon. It's not as bad as growling "LAWBREAKER" and "I WANT TO BREAK SOMETHING" all the time but yeah, still a pretty poor version of the character. Without Gabe, or Shadow, or alcoholism, or an abusive father, or a deep rooted hatred for Hun, or the fear of becoming too violent, or a serious romance with April, or really anything backing up his anger/violence, what's left? Raph's buddy with sports equipment for weapons? That's kind of lame.

As the worst character in the show, period? Certainly not. This show has Pidgeon Pete, Mondo Gecko, Muckman, Napoleon Bonafrog, Bigfoot, that Sparrow guy etc. With a show that has this many characters you're bound to get some really awful ones. I mean seriously, Pete was literally just "I WANT BREAD, GIVE ME BREAD!" how can anything be more annoying than that?

snake 09-10-2016 07:18 PM

OT Casey was hilarious though. I want psycho Casey back :lol:

Jephael 09-10-2016 07:36 PM

I remember before they premiered his character I stated that I would've liked to see him as a middle aged widower with an adopted baby daughter (Shadow) who befriends the group or something to that effect. I feel like that would've made for an interesting plot device. Of course then he wouldn't have been able to be in a relationship with April for obvious reasons and Donatello wouldn't get all jealous and petulant all the time.

Autbot_Benz 09-10-2016 07:46 PM

nah this casey isn't the worst character. you want a bad not Casey go watch Stephen Amell's Not Casey it was really bad

snake 09-10-2016 07:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Autbot_Benz (Post 1622206)
nah this casey isn't the worst character. you want a bad not Casey go watch Stephen Amell's Not Casey it was really bad

Ew, yeah. I was so f*cking disapointed when I realized the hockey mask was basically a glorified cameo.

Autbot_Benz 09-10-2016 07:56 PM

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Originally Posted by snake (Post 1622209)
Ew, yeah. I was so f*cking disapointed when I realized the hockey mask was basically a glorified cameo.

Elias Koteas's Hockey Mask had more screen time than Amell's

CylonsKlingonsDaleksOhMy 09-10-2016 08:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Autbot_Benz (Post 1622206)
nah this casey isn't the worst character. you want a bad not Casey go watch Stephen Amell's Not Casey it was really bad

Gospel truth.

PApagreg 09-10-2016 08:06 PM

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Originally Posted by CyberCubed (Post 1622129)
What does this mean? Casey's personality is always wildly different from incarnation.

Mirage = Starts off a maniac but then calms down and becomes a father

Fred Wolf = Complete maniac

4kids = Is a bit of a moron, becomes a bit of a joke and teddy bear although a good fighter

90's movies = Probably the most realistic interpetation of what Jones would be if he existed in real life

IDW = College kid trying to do right by his dad (who is Hun in that version)

Nick = High school kid who is metal


See, this is why I don't understand what you people want. You guys claim characters are not the same, when every version does something different.

Pretty much IDW,Mirage, and 4kids have the same personalities goof moron who fights crime because his family was either attacked or he had a bad childhood.

As for the Nick Casey he sucks baaaaaaaadd, we don't know anything about his homelife or background he is just some random kid who gets a set of sports equipment and just somehows just whacks a bunch of footbots. Not saying the 4kids Casey is perfect but at least we understand his motivation and had more of a relationship with the hamato clan then being a love rival towards Don

lonewarrior20 09-10-2016 08:42 PM

i kinda felt like he hit a new low in the insect trifecta episode when he sounded like a toy commercial for the grapple packs.

Powder 09-10-2016 08:49 PM

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Originally Posted by PApagreg (Post 1622217)
Pretty much IDW,Mirage, and 4kids have the same personalities goof moron who fights crime because his family was either attacked or he had a bad childhood.

Nonsense. He's not a goof/moron in Mirage or IDW. They're as similar to one another as the turtles are across each iteration, in that it's the same formula, but there are plenty of personality differences.

Have you even read the comics? Anyone who's well-versed knows this.

CyberCubed 09-10-2016 08:59 PM

People really don't know much about TMNT it seems outside a few of us hardcore fans.

Also this Casey is a 16 year old kid. What do you expect him to be?

snake 09-10-2016 09:03 PM

Just because he's 16 doesn't mean he can't be enjoyable to watch.

Aged up Casey is the way to go, though. 18-24 year old is the sweet spot.

Powder 09-10-2016 09:10 PM

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Originally Posted by CyberCubed (Post 1622247)
People really don't know much about TMNT it seems outside a few of us hardcore fans.

Which would be fine if they didn't spout off about things they clearly know nothing of.

Coola Yagami 09-10-2016 09:16 PM

Definitely the worst, most annoying character of the show, as well as worst version of Casey ever. And worse of all, he's one of the main characters so we have to put up with his 'omg this is so metal despite all the horrible **** that happened to us and will happen to us, but who cares cause this is so metal!' almost every single episode.

I just see him as an extra fighter when its time to fight... but even then he's usually the weak **** that gets taken down first or needs help. Even Raph got sick of his 'this is so metal' in one of the eps.

Just... agggh... get rid of him. They just made him a kid to be love triangle material, but he shoulda just been older. Or at least a kid, but not a kid that's bordeline as annoying as the Pulverizer. In fact, Casey is kinda like Pulverizer except he has the hots for April and can actually fight. Sorta.

PApagreg 09-10-2016 09:21 PM

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Originally Posted by snake (Post 1622248)
Just because he's 16 doesn't mean he can't be enjoyable to watch.

Aged up Casey is the way to go, though. 18-24 year old is the sweet spot.

Actually Casey is 18

CyberCubed 09-10-2016 09:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Coola Yagami (Post 1622255)
Definitely the worst, most annoying character of the show, as well as worst version of Casey ever. And worse of all, he's one of the main characters so we have to put up with his 'omg this is so metal despite all the horrible **** that happened to us and will happen to us, but who cares cause this is so metal!' almost every single episode.

http://i.stack.imgur.com/jiFfM.jpg

I expected better from you, Coola.

Coola Yagami 09-10-2016 09:29 PM

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Originally Posted by CyberCubed (Post 1622258)
http://i.stack.imgur.com/jiFfM.jpg

I expected better from you, Coola.

Nope. Casey Jones warrants a quadruple facepalm, and then even double of that towards whoever at Nick thought that portrayal was a good idea.

And he's 18??? MY GOD!

CylonsKlingonsDaleksOhMy 09-10-2016 09:29 PM

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Originally Posted by CyberCubed (Post 1622258)
http://i.stack.imgur.com/jiFfM.jpg

I expected better from you, Coola.

:tlol: I keep forgetting Cubed is a fellow Trekkie.

Must be why I can't stay mad at him!!!

Papenbrook 09-10-2016 10:38 PM

I don't think Casey Jones should have been included in the current cartoon. He contributes next to nothing.

PApagreg 09-10-2016 10:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Papenbrook (Post 1622295)
I don't think Casey Jones should have been included in the current cartoon. He contributes next to nothing.

Honestly I could see a teen Casey Jones being included well into the Nick TMNT verse just make him be in a foster home who is more or less the big brother to his foster siblings and see it as his duty to protect them but also have some fun cracking skulls hell not only Casey blood knight tendencies in common with Raph but also the status of a guardian

Papenbrook 09-10-2016 10:52 PM

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Originally Posted by PApagreg (Post 1622299)
Honestly I could see a teen Casey Jones being included well into the Nick TMNT verse just make him be in a foster home who is more or less the big brother to his foster siblings and see it as his duty to protect them but also have some fun cracking skulls hell not only Casey blood knight tendencies in common with Raph but also the status of a guardian

You mean like Knuckles the echidna?

NikitaZhukov 09-10-2016 10:58 PM

I think he just needs a serious storyline that helps his character development. That's the only chance for him to become a fan favorite.

PApagreg 09-10-2016 10:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Papenbrook (Post 1622306)
You mean like Knuckles the echidna?

Sure why not cause as we all know Knuckles belongs in a foster family

Chris 09-11-2016 03:59 AM

Personally I don't really like Nick Casey, I think he started off ok but has become really one note recently and just seems to be there because he's Casey Jones. He's not the worst character in the show but definitely the worst/weakest of the major characters to me.

The Happy One 09-11-2016 01:30 PM

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Originally Posted by CyberCubed (Post 1622129)
What does this mean? Casey's personality is always wildly different from incarnation.

Mirage = Starts off a maniac but then calms down and becomes a father

Fred Wolf = Complete maniac

4kids = Is a bit of a moron, becomes a bit of a joke and teddy bear although a good fighter

90's movies = Probably the most realistic interpetation of what Jones would be if he existed in real life

IDW = College kid trying to do right by his dad (who is Hun in that version)

Nick = High school kid who is metal


See, this is why I don't understand what you people want. You guys claim characters are not the same, when every version does something different.

Well you've got a point there. Casey's background does vary in different incarnations.

Perhaps I should have just skipped that statement and went straight to: this interpretation of Casey is the most godawful version yet- despite his varying personality types in the several incarnations.

That probably sounds better.

well...probably tied with 2016 Casey...he kinda let me down

Ceres 09-11-2016 04:17 PM

He comes very close to second place of worst character in the 2k12 cartoon, number one is still Mary-Sue O`Neill.

This versions Casey is boring as hell, annoying to no end and what is even worse, he is basically just there for the love triangle between April, Donatello and himself.

GoldMutant 09-11-2016 04:35 PM

Although he's got a slick design, some good episodes (Good, Bad, and Casey Jones as well as CJ vs the Underworld), and Josh Peck does his best with the material he has, this version of Casey seems to take a lot missteps.

Mostly just an irritating jock who's over his head, serves next to no purpose in most of his appearances (exceptions are the above two mentioned, Wyrm, and Newtrailized), and has no identity. It's far from what I think of when discussing Casey Jones; I think of the struggling everyman, a guy who wants to fight off crime, and though hotheaded, he has a compassionate heart to those he cares for. For the most part, he's just there.

CyberCubed 09-11-2016 05:38 PM

I quite liked him in today's Wingnut episode. Don't see the problem at all.

Coola Yagami 09-12-2016 09:45 AM

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Originally Posted by CyberCubed (Post 1622599)
I quite liked him in today's Wingnut episode. Don't see the problem at all.

Just because you don't see the problem it doesn't mean it's not there.

Sorry dude. I try to be nice to everyone but I'm kinda sick of your 'my opinion is indisputable fact' attitude. That you like or dislike something doesn't make you right or wrong but it doesn't make others that don't share your views right or wrong either.

ssjup81 09-12-2016 02:22 PM

For me, personally, I neither like nor dislike Casey, but he does more things that I like than dislike, if that makes sense. I mean, he's a good friend and willing to fight for and with his friends, even if he does come off as a bit immature at times. There are times where he may say or do things that bother me, like the space arc. I didn't care for how gung ho he was and how rare it was for him to think about what happened to the earth. Like I said at the end of last season, it felt like they were dangling keys in front of his face to distract him from what had just happened...although, in the first ep of this season, he did look as down as the others...so yeah.

Anyway, that's my main issue with Casey's character. I like his voice and stuff, though...but he does say some stupid things every once in a while. The ep that just aired was a decent ep for Casey. I would like for them to do more like that, but I still wish they'd mention something about his family. He became a vigilante for the sake of protecting his sister and father.


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