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victory_angel 09-11-2016 12:40 AM

Official Episode Discussion S4 Ep 19: Bat in the Belfry
 
One last hurrah before we go into hiatus.


So it seems this Crystal may not be the blessed gift that may be intended as April seems to be headed down a dark direction. And certain parties could be taken down with her or taken down by her before all is said and done.

So now we must ask, who are these creatures that seem to have suddenly jumped out of Mikey's comic book, are they friends? Foes? And what is going on with the war between the Foot Clan?

Autbot_Benz 09-11-2016 01:47 AM

really 5 new episodes after a 4-5 month hiatus. and now we go on break again.I am really loosing my patience with these damn TMNT breaks.

Redworld96 09-11-2016 02:07 AM

Enjoylable episode. April in this episode was literally:
http://images.memes.com/meme/390260

Vicky82 09-11-2016 02:28 AM

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Originally Posted by Redworld96 (Post 1622375)
Enjoylable episode. April in this episode was literally:
http://images.memes.com/meme/390260

She's got a Crystal Meth addiction :lol:

Redworld96 09-11-2016 02:36 AM

Totally xD
And I dont know if Wignut's voice actor was announced before, but it's Daran Norris

Chaotix12345 09-11-2016 02:56 AM

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Originally Posted by Redworld96 (Post 1622381)
Totally xD
And I dont know if Wignut's voice actor was announced before, but it's Daran Norris

Ah, so they DID get a previous Batman VA for the job...just not the one anyone expected. :lol: Daran Norris actually played Bats in the fairly recent DC Superfriends shorts. Good pick for a comical take on him.

Redworld96 09-11-2016 03:04 AM

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Originally Posted by Chaotix12345 (Post 1622386)
Ah, so they DID get a previous Batman VA for the job...just not the one anyone expected. :lol: Daran Norris actually played Bats in the fairly recent DC Superfriends shorts. Good pick for a comical take on him.

Then it's an accurate choice because ...

Spoiler:

Vicky82 09-11-2016 03:10 AM

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Originally Posted by Redworld96 (Post 1622392)
Then it's an accurate choice because ...

Spoiler:

So who voiced Screwloose.

Redworld96 09-11-2016 03:13 AM

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Originally Posted by Vicky82 (Post 1622394)
So who voiced Screwloose.

Jeff Bennett


Vicky82 09-11-2016 03:16 AM

Oh Wow that's awesome, So that's another voice actor from Gargoyles in this :D

I'm surprised Bill Fagerbakke hasn't voiced anyone yet as he's with Nickelodeon a lot, due to voicing Patrick from Spongebob.

TurFlytle 09-11-2016 09:02 AM

The Fantastic Four Food Groups reminds me more of the Aqua Teen Hunger Force than the Fantastic Four.

snake 09-11-2016 09:10 AM

Yeah, Monoculus is an original character. No idea what TMNTplay was on about.

TurFlytle 09-11-2016 09:19 AM

Ok, I guess the Aeons meant anybody could be corrupted, even April, Wignut and Screwloose.

PApagreg 09-11-2016 09:29 AM

I just realized something they out of all of the comic references they didn't reference X men or Daredevil

TurFlytle 09-11-2016 09:30 AM

Well, Dark April's pretty much confirmed.

thundermaster612 09-11-2016 09:32 AM

In that final shot a part of April's hair is like, really pushed off to the side. It looks weird. So how long will this hiatus be?

snake 09-11-2016 09:32 AM

I really liked this one. These past two episodes have been a major improvement imo. The fight scenes were good, crystal-fied Wingnut and Screwloose were great, and "junkie that needs her fix" April was entertaining.

8/10

Vicky82 09-11-2016 09:32 AM

Ok, that was a crazy episode.

PApagreg 09-11-2016 09:33 AM

Well that was meh, April all the suddenly got addicted to the Crystal's power and pretty much became venom, Casey is still annoying(and so is Mikey) and Wingnut and Screwloose became mutants, fantastic.

Is it too much to ask for an episode that doesn't focus on the turtles

NinjaMan 09-11-2016 09:33 AM

Aww I wanted Wingnut and Screeloose to stay :( I really liked them. Great episode loved it!

snake 09-11-2016 09:35 AM

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Originally Posted by PApagreg (Post 1622449)
Well that was meh, April all the suddenly got addicted to the Crystal's power and pretty much became venom, Casey is still annoying(and so is Mikey) and Wingnut and Screwloose became mutants, fantastic.

Is it too much to ask for an episode that doesn't focus on the turtles

You're crazy if you think that Nick would allow an episode without the turtles

M.O.D.O.K. 09-11-2016 09:38 AM

Anyone else notice the 1989 Batman nod with Skullface McGillin?

Haalix 09-11-2016 09:38 AM

Why is every Mikey-centric episode goofy? at least not serious. i love all four of them but now im getting really annoyed with Mikey. Casey level of annoying. how hard is it to make an episode a bit more serious that focuses on Mikey? Or just focus it on all of them.

on the other side, i'm really liking the April part so far. hopefully, but probably not, she ends up facing the turtles in the finale or something in battle, or she accidently hurts one of them because of the crystel

PApagreg 09-11-2016 09:39 AM

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Originally Posted by snake (Post 1622451)
You're crazy if you think that Nick would allow an episode without the turtles


If Nick can have an episode without Lincoln Loud as the focus and episodes focusing on Zuko I think we can have an episode focusing on the turtles

Vicky82 09-11-2016 09:40 AM

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Originally Posted by PApagreg (Post 1622449)
Well that was meh, April all the suddenly got addicted to the Crystal's power and pretty much became venom, Casey is still annoying(and so is Mikey) and Wingnut and Screwloose became mutants, fantastic.

Is it too much to ask for an episode that doesn't focus on the turtles

It wasn't suddenly. April's had that crystal for a long time now and we started seeing the dark side of her since the episode City at War. This is the 1st episode that April didn't want to take it off or give it to someone else and you could see that it was making her addict and her dark side is getting worse

GoldMutant 09-11-2016 09:42 AM

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Originally Posted by Haalix (Post 1622453)
Why is every Mikey-centric episode goofy? at least not serious. i love all four of them but now im getting really annoyed with Mikey. Casey level of annoying. how hard is it to make an episode a bit more serious that focuses on Mikey? Or just focus it on all of them.

They did, they're called It Came From the Depths and Into Dimension X!. Only one thing: they're both from nearly three seasons/two seasons ago.

snake 09-11-2016 09:42 AM

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Originally Posted by PApagreg (Post 1622454)
If Nick can have an episode without Lincoln Loud as the focus and episodes focusing on Zuko I think we can have an episode focusing on the turtles

ATLA was at the peak of it's popularity and WAY more focused on story that the Zuko only episodes were almost needed. Nick realized they had something that could be enjoyed by both kids and adults with ATLA and took risks. Don't even compare it with 2k12.

Chaotix12345 09-11-2016 09:46 AM

Really cool episode. I like how they played up Wingnut and Screwloose's Batman element while still maintaining their kinda berserk nature at the end with the crystal. It's also just really nice to finally see them portrayed as heroes in animation. Really liked the little Huanu namedrop as well. Little disappointed that they couldn't stick around, but hey, it's not like they're completely barred from reappearing in the future. Interested to see where this April plot is going...

Also, I couldn't help but think that the whole "Wingnut and Screwloose turn into evil nutcases while everyone around them reminds them that they were heroes in the comics" was a commentary on how the '87 show turned them into generic alien invader villains. :lol:

Wonder which version of them we'll see in toy form: good or evil? It'd be great to get both, but I'm not sure they'd dedicate two whole figures to both of them. (At the very least, it'll be nice to see a full figure of Screwloose that's articulated.)

PApagreg 09-11-2016 09:49 AM

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Originally Posted by Vicky82 (Post 1622455)
It wasn't suddenly. April's had that crystal for a long time now and we started seeing the dark side of her since the episode City at War. This is the 1st episode that April didn't want to take it off or give it to someone else and you could see that it was making her addict and her dark side is getting worse

Except that her dark side was brought out for her need for power but now after using the crystal she is flat out addicted, give Spiderman some credit it took him a few episodes to be addicted to the symboite with April its one episode and she turned into Gollum

Vicky82 09-11-2016 09:50 AM

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Originally Posted by Haalix (Post 1622453)
Why is every Mikey-centric episode goofy? at least not serious. i love all four of them but now im getting really annoyed with Mikey. Casey level of annoying. how hard is it to make an episode a bit more serious that focuses on Mikey? Or just focus it on all of them.

on the other side, i'm really liking the April part so far. hopefully, but probably not, she ends up facing the turtles in the finale or something in battle, or she accidently hurts one of them because of the crystel

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Originally Posted by GoldMutant (Post 1622456)
They did, they're called It Came From the Depths and Into Dimension X!. Only one thing: they're both from nearly three seasons/two seasons ago.

New Friend, Old Enemy is a serious Mikey episode aswell.

I love to have more serious Mikey episodes too, but as he's a young kids favorite character, I can't see it happening.

PApagreg 09-11-2016 09:52 AM

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Originally Posted by snake (Post 1622457)
ATLA was at the peak of it's popularity and WAY more focused on story that the Zuko only episodes were almost needed. Nick realized they had something that could be enjoyed by both kids and adults with ATLA and took risks. Don't even compare it with 2k12.

Okay lets compare it to one thats not on ATLA level, Teen Titans had episodes that focused on other characters and TMNT 2k3 had a lot of episode focusing on the supporting characters or the villians of the series

Vicky82 09-11-2016 09:53 AM

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Originally Posted by PApagreg (Post 1622460)
Except that her dark side was brought out for her need for power but now after using the crystal she is flat out addicted, give Spiderman some credit it took him a few episodes to be addicted to the symboite with April its one episode and she turned into Gollum

Wow your an idiot, how can you compare Spiderman to April.

Spiderman is a main character, April is not and she's not in every episode. If she was a main character and in every single episode, then her addiction would be brought up in every episode.

snake 09-11-2016 09:53 AM

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Originally Posted by Chaotix12345 (Post 1622459)
Really cool episode. I like how they played up Wingnut and Screwloose's Batman element while still maintaining their kinda berserk nature at the end with the crystal. It's also just really nice to finally see them portrayed as heroes in animation. Really liked the little Huanu namedrop as well. Little disappointed that they couldn't stick around, but hey, it's not like they're completely barred from reappearing in the future. Interested to see where this April plot is going...

Also, I couldn't help but think that the whole "Wingnut and Screwloose turn into evil nutcases while everyone around them reminds them that they were heroes in the comics" was a commentary on how the '87 show turned them into generic alien invader villains. :lol:

Wonder which version of them we'll see in toy form: good or evil? It'd be great to get both, but I'm not sure they'd dedicate two whole figures to both of them. (At the very least, it'll be nice to see a full figure of Screwloose that's articulated.)

:lol: I wish we'd get figures for W/S but I doubt it. Playmates has really been sucking with their character selection lately. I'm gonna assume, that if anything, we'll get the evil versions. Alternate heads would be the way to go, but I can't see that happening either.

GoldMutant 09-11-2016 09:56 AM

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Originally Posted by Vicky82 (Post 1622462)
New Friend, Old Enemy is a serious Mikey episode aswell.

I love to have more serious Mikey episodes too, but as he's a young kids favorite character, I can't see it happening.

Completely forgot about that one! Then again, it did felt rushed.

Mikey can't have serious episodes? False. Look at some of the other episodes from the seasons: Wrath of Tiger Claw, The Manhattan Project, Parastica (even if that episode I didn't fully like), debatable on Attack of the Mega Shredder!, etc. You know what they've got in common? (well, first two examples weren't centered on him, but regardless) Rather serious episodes with a serious Mikey; even with his goofy moments from those episodes in terms of dialogue, he makes up for it with a supporting and loving fashion. He motivates his family, shows immense creativity, he's practically the little kid who keeps trucking and makes us smile.

Write him good, Mikey shines. Write him wrong, you get stuff like The Croaking. It's frustrating, Raph shouldn't always be reduced to anger, Leo shouldn't be primarily the guy taking the heavy hits all the time, Mikey shouldn't 90% of the time be goofy.

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Originally Posted by Haalix (Post 1622468)
shame i forgot about those, but you're right. I hope they'll make more this season

Ah, fair enough, sorry it wasn't too specific. I agree either way. :)

(Will watch the episode later on)

PApagreg 09-11-2016 09:57 AM

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Originally Posted by Vicky82 (Post 1622464)
Wow your an idiot, how can you compare Spiderman to April.

Spiderman is a main character, April is not and she's not in every episode. If she was a main character and in every single episode, then her addiction would be brought up in every episode.

You are so stupid you know that right, I was comparing how both Spiderman and April got addicted to power them being main or supporting is irrelevant. Also April is a main character

Also "you're"

Haalix 09-11-2016 09:58 AM

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Originally Posted by GoldMutant (Post 1622456)
They did, they're called It Came From the Depths and Into Dimension X!. Only one thing: they're both from nearly three seasons/two seasons ago.

shame i forgot about those, but you're right. I hope they'll make more this season

Vicky82 09-11-2016 09:58 AM

Eugene Son wrote this episode, so that's why it wasn't a serious Mikey episode.

Vicky82 09-11-2016 10:01 AM

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Originally Posted by PApagreg (Post 1622467)
You are so stupid you know that right, I was comparing how both Spiderman and April got addicted to power them being main or supporting is irrelevant. Also April is a main character

Also "you're"

Actually she's not, she's a minor character, it's the same with Casey too. If April was a main character, then she would be in every single episode.

Haalix 09-11-2016 10:01 AM

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Originally Posted by GoldMutant (Post 1622466)
Completely forgot about that one! Then again, it did felt rushed.

Mikey can't have serious episodes? False. Look at some of the other episodes from the seasons: Wrath of Tiger Claw, The Manhattan Project, Parastica (even if that episode I didn't fully like), debatable on Attack of the Mega Shredder!, etc. You know what they've got in common? Rather serious episodes with a serious Mikey; even with his goofy moments from those episodes in terms of dialogue, he makes up for it with a supporting and loving fashion. He motivates his family, shows immense creativity, he's practically the little kid who keeps trucking and makes us smile.

Write him good, Mikey shines. Write him wrong, you get stuff like The Croaking. It's frustrating, Raph shouldn't always be reduced to anger, Leo shouldn't be primarily the guy taking the heavy hits all the time, Mikey shouldn't 90% of the time be goofy.


Ah, fair enough, sorry it wasn't too specific. I agree either way. :)

(Will watch the episode later on)

I take it back, he's had several in previous season... just not this season, and that's the problem. it's a shame, Mikey has huge potential. But then again, so do the others and that isn't fully explored either.

NinjaPug 09-11-2016 10:01 AM

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Originally Posted by Vicky82 (Post 1622464)
Wow your an idiot

Gets me every single time


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