Which Character Dies
 

This deserves a thread of it's own. I will add a poll and it will be multiple choice.

Gwendoline Yeo posted new episode titles on Twitter earlier, one of the titles is Episode 25 Requiem.

https://twitter.com/GwendolineYeo/st...88618718752769

If you don't know the meaning of the word, it means a mass for the dead or another way of saying it, a Funeral.

So it looks like someone will die.

Who do you think will die, Permanently or Temporary.

My bets are that its gonna be Shredder and that its going to be permanent

Everything seems to be building up to his demise,he has shown the full extent of his insanity (willing to let the earth get destroyed), will be going super shredder, and Karai has made it her ultimate goal to kill him

Knowing that the original concept for Nick TMNT would've had Splinter already dead and only present in flashbacks, I'd bet on Splinter dying at some point in the final season of Nick TMNT.

Splinter but it won't be for long

I'd be baffled if he did get killed again, but even more if it is once again temporary and just a set up for the turtles going on their mystical journey in season 5. It would have alot more weight to it if it was It was permanent and not just a plot device

I think its going to be Splinter although I wish it weren't.

Splinter already almost died at the end of Season 2, and then died at the end of Season 3. Seeing him killed off a "third time" would be beyond redundant, even if its permanent this time.

I voted Splinter for a permanent death because i've been going on about it ever since the Space Arc, so i'm still sticking with it.

I voted Mikey for a temporary death because he's my favorite character and I love to see something bad happen to him, maybe he will save someones life by taking a hit for them.

I doubt any of the Turtles would die because they would just have to undo it quickly when the next season starts anyway.

I've also thought it might happen to April with all this "Dark April" stuff happening. April temporarily dying could happen.

Whoever dies, I'm confident it will be permanent, no time travel to save them this time.

Also, I think the overall most likely to die will be Splinter, Shredder or maybe even Karai. I'd just find it silly for the writers to kill off one of the turtles.

One thing which comes to mind though is killing off all of the turtles seems fairly possible. Judging by the mystical arc of season 5, the turtles might get killed in the end of the season 4 finale and wake up in a "King Kai" type planet where they meet all the mystical creatures.

If anyone's going to go, I hope Shredder receives a poetic send off even though I know that at this point it seems very unlikely given his current state. Really though, my answer would be nobody (and I don't care what the title says).

P.S. If we're talking temporary, "Requiem" might be the episode where my latest theory about what may happen next (in the Season 4 Discussion thread) will come to pass: Ho Chan will return and Karai might just meet the spirit of her mother. So if we're talking temporary I might choose Karai and just for that episode.

My money's on Splinter. After he gave that speech in Mutant Gangland, combined with the cliche of the old master dying. He's gonna kick the bucket soon.


I think Karai has a chance too.

This is my thought/hope too.

I would say Karai or Splinter though I don't want any of the good guys to die.

Karai isn't going to die, there's no point.

It'll be either Splinter or Shredder, although in either case it'll probably feel redundant.

from that whole "kiba" thing that auman posted awhile back, guessing something is gonna happen that will cause her to loose control of her snake half instead of dying

I don't see that happening since it has already been done in this season. The whole premise for Back To The Sewers in the 2003 cartoon was to bring him back so its been done with Splinter in cartoons before and I don't care fo a retread. Why not Karai's friend be the sacrificed character if there is one?

Then Shini's role would have just been a sacrificial lamb all along and that's never a welcome thing. Besides, since Gwendoline is going to be a part of Season 5 it looks like she's safe.

I would risk the thesis, that title "Requiem" could have two meanings. One - literally, death of characters (since there is "prepared" big clash between Shredder and Karai, I would assume that these two could "kill each other", maybe with some "additional help" of other characters). And the second meaning - symbolical Requiem for Foot Clan (in NY/overall?), since there in this situation they're without leader (and any rightful successor).

Buuut probably I'm interpretating it too far and it will be something different. Oh well :P

If it's permanent, my vote is for Splinter.

If it's temporary, my vote is for Karai, especially if she ends up meeting her mother because of it. It seems like of all the characters to temporarily die, she could get the most out of it. While Karai is my first choice, I wouldn't mind if it was one of the other main characters instead, except Splinter or Leo.

What if Requiem is a "Tales of..." situation. In Tales of Leo, Splinter mentioned that the voices of loved ones can bring someone back even from the brink of death. It could be possible that any injuries received could be bad enough for the healing mantra to be ineffective. Thus having the Turtles have a tales of...story line as a way of saying good-bye to their loved one only for the wounded Turtle show signs of recovery.

Another possibility is that one of the Turtles is supposedly lost during the battle, and they have a tales of... story line to deal with the supposed death.

This shouldn't be Splinter since he has already died last season and having him pass on again is redundant.

And Leo has done enough of the "Sacrificial Lion" moments for the past season.

Mutagen Man.

i'd like to see Timmothy return back to human, only to try to take on Tiger Claw and Rahzar all by himself and get diced up into Sashimi.

Considering that haven't done anything with him past season 2, I highly doubt Tim will be the one who gets the axe.

I'm going to say the predictable character would be Shredder. It's been building and he's been offed before in prior series roughly around this point so it's pretty easy to see that. (not to say he wouldn't somehow be resurrected at some point, some how) But honestly, what I would hope for though is Karai... I'm sorry, but as a character I just don't like her anymore. She's just a hot mess... and has been taken in so many direction s that I just can't stand her anymore. I like the idea of her meeting her mother in some kind of spiritual sense that helps her get her mind back together.

They're certainly not going to kill off any of the turtles and I think killing Splinter again so soon would be a bit redundant so I hope they don't go in that direction. I really love this version of Splinter, he's probably my favorite version of him to date.

I'm predicting a Super Shredder showdown that leads with him being beaten finally. That seems the most obvious answer to me anyway.

The Turtles are a clear "no." Splinter would be the most impactful, and heartbreaking since these Turtles seem so young, but it would be redundant. Shredder makes the most sense.

Of course, it could be as un-noteworthy as, say, April's dad.

I have to say Karia bc of the foreshadowing and hints being dropped by splinter in previous episodes.

I agree that it will be Karai, but I don't think she'll stay dead forever, just about 8-10 episodes. Her death would make a nice cliff-hanger of whether or not her regenerative powers revived her, and it would put her back on her "limbo shelf" that the writers like to use when she's not necessary for current plots.
My speculation: In Showdown she jumped in front of Shredder to defend him from Splinter, so it wouldn't surprise me if she does a Tang Shen for Splinter while he's battling Super Shredder and takes a knife to the neck. Her body falls in water again, everyone is sad she's dead, the final scene is her starting to heal herself, and then we don't see her again till halfway through season 5.
i don't think they'll kill Splinter again, but I do think they'll put him through the emotional turmoil of watching the man who killed his wife kill his daughter while she's trying to save him. They're awesome like that.

There is also the metaphorical death, such as what was happening to her during serpent hunt as well as pig and rhino. In those episodes, she was slowly losing her mind to her mutation, and the Turtles attempts at curing her didn't work. So she says that she had wanted to them to find her so she could say goodbye.

We don't know what stockman did to stabilize her mutation, but it could be possible that was just a temporary fix that gives her more time.

Sort of like medications and procedures for conditions such as Alzheimer's or Cancer, for some the medications are able to make the conditions go away, but for many the others, the person is just given more time to be with their loved ones an prepare for the end.

Perhaps the turtles will be all injured badly by the finale by Super Shredder so they will be in a deep coma and the mystical adventures of season 5 will take place in their mind while April and Splimter take intensive care of them. Since the space arc was so long and season 5 will only be 20 episodes, it would then make sense to have the mystical arc much shorter, 5 episodes at the max and have less filler so they can quickly progress the story and be up soon to finally take down Super Shredder.

I will kill Spinter all of the turtles and Karai!!!

You're just mad Splinter cucked you.

Poor Donnie, he's the turtle with more votes to die in this poll :ohwell:

Considering he's had the most near death experiences outside Leo's sacrificial moments, especially in season 4, it's not surprising.

Based on poll, here's what I think of each option:

Splinter- Would they really do it a second time? I get Ciro wanted Splinter dead at the start of the series, but it feels too predictable to happen a second time.

Karai- Yes.

The Turtles- I honestly can't see any of them dying, except maybe Donatello depending on this "Dark April arc" that'll happen. You can't have an episode without all of them in this series unlike other versions; take "Dark Raphael" for example. Outside overhyping it and the synopsis of Deadly Venom, in which Karai would poison every Turtle, would it have lasted? Poor example, but either way Raph at the very least lacks the weight as his character isn't fully identifiable at this stage.

Leo and Mikey are more middling. Leonardo though the predictable choice to kill seems to challenge how the others will grow. However, he'll be reduced to yet another sacrifice; he might be heroic doing so, but it's cliched nonetheless. Michelangelo on the other hand... eh, it'll be emotional if he grows up and takes a serious hit but considering on merchandise he's often the fan favorite, too risky.

April O'Neil- Like Don, it depends on her descent. She'll either be a villain or killed before being brought back, along with anyone who gets killed, by the series finale if season 5 is the last season.

Casey Jones- For the love of God, kill him. There's been no photos of Josh Peck at recordings, correct? Odds are if Don or April don't bite the dust, it'll be him.

Shredder- Another predictable choice, just make sure when Super Shredder come up, it's a good death compared to SotO. :ohwell:

Other- The two choices here are Kirby and Tiger Claw; the former because the stakes of a finale require him to suffer, this would be the only option for him. Tiger Claw fully depends on what the actual intentions are of next season. All other characters are either ambiguous to decide on via head canon or are still working with the Foot.

Mikey is personally my choice for someone to die off among the core seven. It works like this:

• If Leo dies, the team loses their leader and must grow as a unit.
• If Raph dies, the strength would go down.
• If Don dies, no more easy ways out with his intellect.
• If Mikey dies, the morale goes down.
• If Splinter dies, the team loses their wisdom.
• If April dies/goes completely dark, the team are in a moral struggle.
• If Casey dies, who cares? :P (I don't know how Casey would impact anything, he's just there right now personally).

I think Karai might die. In terms of storytelling it makes the most sense because it would open up a lot more potential storylines for the turtles coping with the loss and it could lead to Splinter going on a vengeance mission. I'd like to see him more active like in Season 1. My favorite episodes are when Splinter was doing things rather than just chilling in the sewers.

Besides, killing Splinter off again (while it is possible) seems quite stupid. What was the point of killing him off the first time if he dies again so soon? If you're going to kill off Splinter then do it and leave him be. Don't make him return for like 10-12 episodes and kill him off again... that's just bad storytelling.

Also in Splinter's statement at the end of Mutant Gangland, he points out "How terrible it would be to have unresolved anger for one another."

Part of this is foreshadowing towards something. Through out this series Donnie and Leo have had the least moments bonding. They have had their moments where they work together or are together, but they aren't really bonding moments.

Also Donnie and Leo have had a festoring tention that has existed since the finale of season two, but its only shown itself when Donnie and/or Leo are frustrated or overwhelmed. Which means that when the writers do get around to addressing this tention, it would be due to something else going on. And it would possibly be too little to late.


But the other matter is by and large in the end all the Turtles truely have is eachother. They have lots of family, particularly extended/honorary family, but those people can be there one moment and gone the next. So the only thing they can rely on is the the four of them. Which would make it all the more important that they remain together as their unity is their strength.

You tend to bring up this Leo and Donnie tension quite a lot. Brothers get on each other's nerves, it happens.

I meant the unaddressed tention from their argument back in the season 2 finale. Donnie blamed himself for what happened to Leo and in a way still does from time to time.

There has been no indication or confirmation that they have even talked about it when they really need to. Back during the farm house it's like they want to talk about it but they want the other one to broach the subject. And after the farm house they are trying to pretend the whole thing never happened and moving on but it still bugs them on a subconcious level.

Karai seems more likely.

Let's face facts, many of these moments don't get built upon. Mutagen rain? Last brought up in season 3, but nearly forgotten about since Pizza Face. Slash vs Raph? Let's force Slash to receive a 180 turn. So on and so forth.

You're better off writing a fan fiction and leave it behind, they had their opportunity and blew it. All that moment was for was to set up the two Turtle plots of The Invasion and culminate in both sides failing, nothing more.

I don't think it's gonna be Karai at all! She has to become leader of the Foot Clan by the end of the season (or next). That is a lot more fitting than death.