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Autbot_Benz 10-18-2016 12:22 PM

Honest Trailers ghostbusters 2016
 
since the original thread got closed thought id post this here. Its one of the best honest trailers to date

CylonsKlingonsDaleksOhMy 10-18-2016 12:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Autbot_Benz (Post 1633503)
since the original thread got closed thought id post this here. Its one of the best honest trailers to date

And this needed reposting why, exactly?

Cure 10-18-2016 12:30 PM

People can't help but **** on the things they dislike at every opportunity.

Andrew NDB 10-18-2016 12:31 PM

Hey, a new Ghostbusters remake thread.

TurtleTitan97 10-18-2016 12:36 PM

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Originally Posted by CylonsKlingonsDaleksOhMy (Post 1633504)
And this needed reposting why, exactly?

^ This.

Seriously Autobot, this thread was not need. Can we please get a mod to close this and just move on from this movie already? I'm so sick of talking about it.

Powder 10-18-2016 01:22 PM

Gotta say I agree with everyone else, no need to rip the band-aid offa this one...

Andrew NDB 10-18-2016 01:28 PM

Nobody wants to talk about the special extended edition with all the added laughs?

plastroncafe 10-18-2016 01:30 PM

Aaaaand flagged for trolling.

snake 10-18-2016 02:31 PM

You're triggering me by bringing it up

Allio 10-18-2016 05:24 PM

I'm kind of iffy on Honest trailers since they played the "defense force" regarding TMNT 2014

TigerClaw 10-18-2016 05:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Allio (Post 1633584)
I'm kind of iffy on Honest trailers since they played the "defense force" regarding TMNT 2014

Yeah, all Honest Trailers does is trash every movie, good, bad or indifferent.

ssjup81 10-18-2016 05:36 PM

I didn't know the other thread was locked. Anyway, nice Honest Trailer. Liked the part about how they said it's trying to be its own thing and how it's reminding you of the original throughout the film...oh and the part about, "If you don't like that style comedy, don't watch it." People seriously overreacted to this film.

snake 10-18-2016 05:40 PM

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Originally Posted by TigerClaw (Post 1633588)
Yeah, all Honest Trailers does is trash every movie, good, bad or indifferent.

Once again, the robot ignores the context of the post he's "agreeing" with

TheSkeletonMan939 10-18-2016 05:50 PM

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Originally Posted by TigerClaw (Post 1633588)
Yeah, all Honest Trailers does is trash every movie, good, bad or indifferent.

It's their gig, Tigger. The only film I think Honest Trailers hasn't heartily disparaged is The Winter Soldier. Unlike you they don't love a movie because it exists.

TigerClaw 10-18-2016 05:50 PM

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Originally Posted by TheSkeletonMan939 (Post 1633596)
It's their gig, Tigger. The only film I think Honest Trailers hasn't heartily disparaged is The Winter Soldier. Unlike you they don't love a movie because it exists.

They were pretty kind to Zootopia, even though they were making fun of the Furries, which was to be expected.

Allio 10-18-2016 05:55 PM

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Originally Posted by ssjup81 (Post 1633590)
I didn't know the other thread was locked. Anyway, nice Honest Trailer. Liked the part about how they said it's trying to be its own thing and how it's reminding you of the original throughout the film...oh and the part about, "If you don't like that style comedy, don't watch it." People seriously overreacted to this film.

Then people overreacted to the overreaction, which then again caused a more overreaction...

truely a horrible cycle.

Powder 10-18-2016 08:17 PM

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Originally Posted by TigerClaw (Post 1633588)
Yeah, all Honest Trailers does is trash every movie, good, bad or indifferent.

Hey, little buddy, they're on the complete opposite side of your opinion. They don't like HT because they didn't trash TMNT 2014.

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Originally Posted by snake (Post 1633591)
Once again, the robot ignores the context of the post he's "agreeing" with

Yeah, he says he's gonna have margarine, but always ends up using butter.

Kinda like that, eh? :tlol:

TigerClaw 10-18-2016 08:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Allio (Post 1633600)
Then people overreacted to the overreaction, which then again caused a more overreaction...

truely a horrible cycle.

Yeah and people overreact to those overreacting to overreacting to overreacting, rinse and repeat.

Vegita-San 10-21-2016 08:37 PM

i await this thread being locked in two pages because people can't agree that it was either good, or it sucked like adults.

i mean, seriously, the amount of viscous personal dredgery that gets brought up at these threads (mostly against 'haters) baffles me beyond belief. for some reason this film hits a nerve with people like no other. and not just because it's pretending to be ghostbusters.


that being said.. i laugh at how websites claim this review was 'brutal'. probably websites that where for the movie at the start.

they went rather easy on them. but i applaud them for even doing it at all. it's sad people are afraid to tell the world what they think about this movie, i.e. their truth, because they've seen how others get lambasted for doing so. women especially are afraid of being torn to shreds...
who wants to come with me to mars? :)

Vegita-San 10-21-2016 09:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Allio (Post 1633600)
Then people overreacted to the overreaction, which then again caused a more overreaction...

truely a horrible cycle.

Not to start the endless cycle over again (I have post traumatic stress from the last mess ;o))...as it truly IS horrible..

but the reason we 'over reacted' is cause we got insulted at every turn after keeping the franchise alive in our hearts for 20 years. it's hard NOT to take it personally. oh, and the people who where happy to let ghostbusters die with the video game got lambasted by defenders at every turn ;o).


So long as it's done in a friendly place where the majority agrees it was terrible, i will never get tired of feigbuster bashing. this more than TMNT, IMHO, deserves it till the end of time. What I got tired of was trying to explain my position and then having the topic deflected to nonsensical areas...not being able to have fun trashing it was more draining than anything.

thus is born the anti fan.

Cure 10-21-2016 09:27 PM

Jesus, people take things way too seriously.

AT-Man 10-22-2016 04:01 AM

Ghostbusters (2016) is better than The Force Awakens.

Allio 10-22-2016 11:03 PM

Ghostbusters, better than Star Wars. That's a laugh riot.

AT-Man 10-23-2016 04:44 AM

It's just my honest opinion.

ZariusTwo 10-23-2016 05:54 AM

A lot of movies are better than The Sue Awakens.

Vegita-San 10-23-2016 11:34 AM

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Originally Posted by Allio (Post 1634424)
Ghostbusters, better than Star Wars. That's a laugh riot.

Considering the problems i have with star wars..

a jedi (woman in this case) learning things far faster than luke or Ezra ever did, just to speed the plot along. (we get it femenists. women are superior to men. give it a rest. smh)

ANOTHER retelling of Episode 4's end battle (first was in Phantom Menace)....

Characters in the exact same place they where when they left. No Jedi Acadamy to wow us. No Jedi Twins of the Solos.

A Whiny, Millenial like wimp of a villain that couldn't even beat someone who didn't even know what the force WAS not more than an hour ago...Also has a major horse face with a nose longer than his index finger..

it was still a better movie than we could have hoped for.

Not so much with FeigBusters. It doesn't even deserve to be called ghostbusters.....especially considered it was designed soley by two femenists who tried to push out the creators of the franchise (and eventually did, apparently if rights negotiating issues are true)..

Shark_Blade 10-30-2016 10:33 AM

So I got the blu ray and ... I honestly think the theatrical edition is better than the extended edition.

The extended edition has A LOT of changes/improvisation to the script and added scenes, but I think most of them just didn't work out and dragged out too long.
1. For example like the scene when the team was waiting for Holtzman to bring the hearse car, Erin went to talk to her boyfriend(?) Phil. Just boring long winded talk. Though Abby and Patty provided funny commentary.
2. Abby and Erin awkward long dancing segment in front of Holtzman and Patty. Just ugh, God why.
3. Holtzman purple big wig scene was funny in the theatrical edition where she was smiling and joking. In this one she's too serious and a bit annoyed.
4. The cringeworthy and wacky US Govt secret duo ("We're the big dogs. We're watching you!"). I just wanna hit that mustached guy's face with a shovel.
5. Kevin stepped on acid with his fluffy slippers and got some of the acid fumes in his eyes. Seriously? I know he's dimwitted but...
6. Abby possession scene. Now they added oozing green slime coming out of her ear holes, her nostrils.. Oh and she was heavily projectile vomitting those green slime too. Lovely.

I'm glad all the above was cut out from theatrical edition, which is the version I'm gonna stick with on rewatchings. Regardless, I think this film is pretty stunning visually. Such rich colors and bright pallette to behold. :tgrin:

I gotta say the treatment of their secretary is pretty sexist in the original movie. Janine though very competent but got her hands full were taken for granted -heck Venkman even looked down on her importance suggesting that she can quit because of her low qualifications... but the girls ghostbusters here, they treat Kevin very kindly despite of his HUGE shortcomings (he can't even answer the phone right). Women treat their male subordinates better I suppose? I like them for that.

Vegita-San 10-30-2016 10:44 AM

I find it funny how people think the treatment of janine was sexist. I guess it's just a generational thing...

You'll notice SHE was the aggressor in most of her shots. she fired back at her new bosses like she was a long time employee. she constantly hit on one of them despite rejection. she had sass, strength of will and smarts.

If anything, the guys treated her like one of the guys most of the time cause they knew she could handle them.

Kevin, on the other hand.. is hired ONLY for his looks, and while they may try to be nice to him to his face, they back stab him in quiet and are treating him like the invalid he is. the minute he'd walk through any other establishment, he'd either be hired due to 'equal opportunity' and fired soon after or laughed out of the office out right.

The original is not sexist. the new one clearly is. that's all feig does. he's got to learn sooner or later that men have evolved since t he 50s.

plastroncafe 10-30-2016 01:30 PM

That's the trope though. The shrew who wants to be wanted, vs the attractive woman who plays hard to get.

Janine : Irma :: Dana : April.

And yes, that is a sexist trope.

Vegita-San 10-30-2016 02:53 PM

sigh..everyone has to see something as something these days....can't not put a label on someone.

April wasn't playing hard to get with anyone. if anything, she never showed an interest in men. just married to the job even after she got fired.

Neither did Dana. she ignored louis, and down right hated venkman.. at least until he got famous.

Poor Irma and louis just tried too hard cause no one was ever interested in 'em. if the universes ever crossed, Irma would probably ignore louis cause she saw too much of herself in him! poor guy.

Allio 10-30-2016 03:07 PM

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Originally Posted by plastroncafe (Post 1635497)
That's the trope though. The shrew who wants to be wanted, vs the attractive woman who plays hard to get.

Janine : Irma :: Dana : April.

And yes, that is a sexist trope.

are you one of those people that tries to find something offensive in everything? here it seems like you are trying too hard.

plastroncafe 10-30-2016 03:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Allio (Post 1635520)
are you one of those people that tries to find something offensive in everything? here it seems like you are trying too hard.

No, I'm one of those people who likes to think critically about the media they consume and often times enjoy the act of deconstructing it.

TheSkeletonMan939 10-30-2016 03:48 PM

There's a difference between deconstructing media and forcing in your own meanings.

plastroncafe 10-30-2016 03:49 PM

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Originally Posted by TheSkeletonMan939 (Post 1635533)
There's a difference between deconstructing media and forcing in your own meanings.

Okay. Sure.

Vegita-San 10-30-2016 04:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Allio (Post 1635520)
are you one of those people that tries to find something offensive in everything? here it seems like you are trying too hard.

Nice way of putting it.

one reason why the internet is becoming so tiresome.

you have people looking to see stuff where it isn't there

Allio 10-30-2016 07:24 PM

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Originally Posted by plastroncafe (Post 1635525)
No, I'm one of those people who likes to think critically about the media they consume and often times enjoy the act of deconstructing it.

As do I (I literally find way to cause tragedy/despair in shows, like Ever After High)

but sometimes if feels like you are overreaching in places where it doesn't exist.

plastroncafe 10-30-2016 07:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Allio (Post 1635554)
As do I (I literally find way to cause tragedy/despair in shows, like Ever After High)

but sometimes if feels like you are overreaching in places where it doesn't exist.

Okay.
Do you find my arguments lacking in supportive evidence?
Or do you just dislike my arguments because they deal with aspects of a given media that you don't believe are worthy "hills to die on," so to speak.

Because I get the feeling it's more the latter than the former, which I can't really help you with.

I don't believe that Erin (2016) treats her romantic interests any differently than Venkman (1984) does.

In the beginning of the 1984 movie Venkman is conducting an ESP test on a man and a woman. The woman, who Venkman finds attractive yet has no ESP abilities to speak of, is treated far better than the man who does.

I find this behavior similar to Erin wanting to keep Kevin around because she finds him attractive, even though he's utterly ill-suited to the job he's interviewing for.

Both Erin and Venkman are acting unethically, both are in positions of power and stringing along subordinates for their own personal gain.

Granted the woman from the beginning of the 1984 movie doesn't get nearly as much screen time as Kevin does, but the 2016 movie also doesn't have "Dana" for Erin to harangue, as Venkman does the rest of his respective movie.

I do feel that Janine falls into the nerdy, conventionally unattractive, unlucky-in-love girl trope. And I do find that trope sexist.
Is it sexist enough to ruin the movie for me? No, not in the slightest.

Allio 10-30-2016 08:10 PM

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Originally Posted by plastroncafe (Post 1635563)
Okay.
Do you find my arguments lacking in supportive evidence?
Or do you just dislike my arguments because they deal with aspects of a given media that you don't believe are worthy "hills to die on," so to speak.

nah, it's one of those cases like when people say it's "racist" in Power Rangers where the black ranger was black and the yellow ranger was asian in something where there is clearly no intention of it being "racist" in the first place.

With Ghostbusters 2016, my major reason for not seeing it was that often times, Paul Feig himself regarding the film and it's "reactions" did not approach the film in a calm and mature way instead he made some sketch/dumbass thing that essentially saying stuff like "Men only like crude dick jokes" and then it's hilarious because of him doing pretty much that with a "queef joke," like can you say "hypocrite" much?

With the stupid behind the scenes junk, I don't think there was ever a possibility I was ever going to like it.

plastroncafe 10-30-2016 08:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Allio (Post 1635565)
nah, it's one of those cases like when people say it's "racist" in Power Rangers where the black ranger was black and the yellow ranger was asian in something where there is clearly no intention of it being "racist" in the first place.

Is there a reason why it can't be both?
Feig may not have intended to be offensive when he generalized, so...maybe you're just looking for a reason to be upset.

Allio 10-31-2016 01:52 AM

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Originally Posted by plastroncafe (Post 1635569)
Is there a reason why it can't be both?
Feig may not have intended to be offensive when he generalized, so...maybe you're just looking for a reason to be upset.

and that's why I don't make a big deal about it.

granted, I don't see how you can misunderstand something "Geek culture is home to some of the biggest assholes I've ever met in my life," which, no matter how you look at it, isn't a mature thing to say; while it may be true, it isn't the wisest to go around and insulting the very people that determine if your movie succeeds or flops.


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