FOX X-Movie Franchise Hits "Reset Button"
 

Ugh enough give X-men back to Marvel. Fox you had way to many chances to do X-men right.

LOL! I thought DoFP was the reset button! These guys can't do anything right.
I don't know what makes so many Marvel Studios films so appealing but Fox and WB totally aren't in tune with what they're doing.

Exactly. Another reboot or whatever will just make things worse. Better they cut their losses and give the rights to those who will use the characters better.

So in other words... no reset button has been pressed at all.

Except this button, for Bryan Singer:



That's something, at least.

They don't care who uses the characters better. Although its profitability is waning today, it still has the potential to be a real money-maker for Fox. It has been for almost two decades now. Deadpool alone lined their pockets with an incredible amount of cash.

It's just one of those "we're doing things all-new, all-different!" spiels to get the doubters back in line.

They just cast new young versions of Cyclops, Jean, Storm, etc. They're not dropping all that already.

I'd only be interested in the reboot if they based it off the original X-Men team featuring Cyclops, Marvel Girl, Beast, Iceman, and Angel and actually made Scott Summers relevant again.

Until then, pass.

They'll likely try one more movie with the existing cast and if/when it fails to perform they'll crawl right back to Bryan Singer. Because that's what they always do.

Don't Hold your breath Fox has no idea how to do Scott Summers in there movies. I miss the Bad ass Cyclops from the X-men 90's Cartoon

Except for "Logan", I will not financially support any X-Men movie, no matter who is in it. "Apocalypse" was the final straw. Most boring X movie ever.

Give the rights back to Marvel.

Maybe its time for Fox to negotiate with Marvel Studios to colaborate on future X-Men movies, If it worked for Sony with Spider-Man, why not with X-Men?

Because X-Men has yet to fail as hard as Spiderman.

X-Men is still a bit of a golden goose for Fox.

To be strictly accurate, Deadpool and Hugh Jackman are a golden goose for Fox. :twink:

Aw, this sucks. I wanted it to keep going. I like the last movies a lot.

Yeah, Fox really isn't in a place where they'd be even considering anything with Marvel. They've already almost undoubtedly given them Fantastic Four/Surfer/Galactus back... X-Men is all they have left.

If anything, we have Deadpool to thank for no kind of Fox/Marvel deal for the X-Men being in the cards for the foreseeable future. Had Deadpool flopped, Apocalypse did the same numbers Apocalypse did, and then the originally planned PG-13 Gambit flopped (it would have already been out by now, but Deadpool made them ground it when it looked weak by comparison)... that might have made Fox stop and wonder if some kind of deal with Marvel would really be so bad.

For Fox/Marvel talks to even begin to be on the table about X-Men, now...

* Deadpool 2 would need to bomb, or do way less than part 1.
* New Mutants needs to flop.
* Whatever "reset" X-Men core movie emerges needs to flop.

Gambit flopping after all of that would be the slam dunk to get talks going... but now we're talking like 5 years from now.

Exactly.

Also, they just revealed that they're actively planning Deadpool 3, which will basically be X-Force.

Well that's odd. I also thought DOFP was the reset button.

Hell, FIRST CLASS was supposed to be the reset button. But oh no, they just had to bring back Singer... :tgrumble:

If it were me at Fox, and no talks were possible with Marvel...

I'd completely ignore the Singer-verse. None of that happened, not even Wolverine or Logan. Not ever, not even as a loose history. Then I'd hire the equivalent of a Kevin Feige to sort of godfather the whole Fox movieverse. Someone who "Gets" the comics and understands how to translate them to modern day audiences without being a hack. Then I'd introduce in some small way the "new" X-Men, present day, with new actors playing Cyclops, Jean Grey, Wolverine, Beast, Gambit, etc., in better comic book form within the Deadpool 2 movie. Then I'd spin that same team off into "THE UNCANNY X-MEN" movie, maybe even featuring a cameo from Deadpool. Rethink to suit or just completely abort "Gambit" (if he's a hit in "Uncanny X-Men" then push for it, if not then let it go). Then get X-Force off the ground, in which Deadpool would even be a member of the team. Then Deadpool 3. And then sort of just grow things organically from there.

Best way to right the ship for them with what they have going, the way I see it. Not that I really even want them to... I'd prefer the whole Foxmen to just fail fantasically at this point.

Maybe they'll revisit the Phoenix Saga.

https://www.comicbookmovie.com/x-men...-x-men-a146687

Is that going to be Fox's thing? When in trouble, just revisit the Phoenix Saga?

I keep mixing Kevin Feige with Paul Feig, while reading I kept thinking "not my pick for a fresh X-Movie continuity". :lol:

I donno about just go cold turkey on a new continuity, seems weird to ignore the new timeline that's been established... Maybe Fox should just stop trying to have a continuity, they have never been good at that anyway. Everyone and their mother is struggling to have a Cinematic Universe, maybe Fox could fare better in just making stand-alone movies with X-Men characters, go for a loose Phase 1 thing by hiring directors that are known for other things then Superhero movies and explore a bit and take chances.

or same old, same old. Phoenix Sage here we go again.

Why not? Logan has. In fact, almost every movie since the "new timeline" has been established has played loose with itself.

Not even First Class was in line with the original films. I don't care what you tell me, having Mystique be Xavier's friend from childhood doesn't fit in with X1-3 AT ALL. Each film just uses whatever it needs to tell the story it wants. Continuity is extremely light.

Eh, it doesn't not, really. If you imagine that particular Mystique went on to do what she would have done in Days of Future Past in the 70s without any interference, she'd probably have been locked up for decades, emerging a very different character (i.e., the one from X1-X3). But it's a stretch.