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TigerClaw 11-10-2016 12:41 PM

Valerian and the City of a Thousand Planets
 
Check out the trailer for Valerian and the City of a Thousand Planets, it's from the director of The Fifth Element.


CylonsKlingonsDaleksOhMy 11-10-2016 12:44 PM

Looks like a very pretty cinematic Ambien.

TigerClaw 03-29-2017 03:45 PM

New trailer released.


Andrew NDB 03-29-2017 03:50 PM

This has "Flop" written all over it. No way it does one bit better than "Jupiter Ascending."

Luc Besson needs to make one movie, and one movie alone: "Mathilda: The Professional 2," starring Natalie Portman.

TigerClaw 03-29-2017 03:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Andrew NDB (Post 1672132)
This has "Flop" written all over it. No way it does one bit better than "Jupiter Ascending."

Luc Besson needs to make one movie, and one movie alone: "Mathilda: The Professional 2," starring Natalie Portman.

Fifth Element was awesome, and I'm sure he will not disappoint with Valerian.

Andrew NDB 03-29-2017 03:57 PM

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Originally Posted by TigerClaw (Post 1672135)
Fifth Element was awesome

I dunno... I felt like it was the best thing ever when I saw it the first time. Then I watched it a year later and all of it fell apart for me. I think it invested too much energy in seeing how "cool" it could be. Visually pretty striking. I suspect "Valerian" will be more of the same, only probably a lot more painfully expensive and without any A-list stars this time.

NinjaPug 03-29-2017 04:12 PM

Who gave him $180 million to make this? I'd be shocked if this comes close to breaking even.

TigerClaw 03-29-2017 04:20 PM

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Originally Posted by NinjaPug (Post 1672149)
Who gave him $180 million to make this? I'd be shocked if this comes close to breaking even.

considering the movie is based on the comic that pretty much influence a lot of Scifi, including Star Wars.

I still wanna see it, cause it looks like it could be a cool scifi movie in the vain of Fifth Element.

Andrew NDB 03-29-2017 04:22 PM

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Originally Posted by TigerClaw (Post 1672154)
cause it looks like it could be a cool scifi movie in the vain of Fifth Element.

They'd better hope not... Fifth Element barely broke even, if that. There's a reason we haven't seen a "Fifth Element 2" in the past 20 years.

Wow. Fifth Element was really 20 years ago, wasn't it?

NinjaPug 03-29-2017 06:26 PM

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Originally Posted by TigerClaw (Post 1672154)
considering the movie is based on the comic that pretty much influence a lot of Scifi, including Star Wars.

Means absolutely nothing. It's an IP that few know or care about. They promoted John Carter the same way and you saw how that turned out.

TigerClaw 03-29-2017 06:29 PM

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Originally Posted by NinjaPug (Post 1672176)
Means absolutely nothing. It's an IP that few know or care about. They promoted John Carter the same way and you saw how that turned out.

John Carter didn't had a good director for it, and Luc Besson is really good director, I think it'll turn out to be a fun and entertaining movie.

NinjaPug 03-29-2017 06:47 PM

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Originally Posted by TigerClaw (Post 1672177)
John Carter didn't had a good director for it, and Luc Besson is really good director, I think it'll turn out to be a fun and entertaining movie.

What exactly are you disagreeing with? I never said you wouldn't like the movie.

Do you not consider Stanton to be a good director because his filmography is primarily animation?

ProactiveMan 03-29-2017 06:56 PM

John Carter was about a billion times better than anything Besson has done lately, maybe ever. I think Disney fumbled the marketing.

ProphetofGanja 03-29-2017 06:57 PM

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Originally Posted by CylonsKlingonsDaleksOhMy (Post 1639117)
Looks like a very pretty cinematic Ambien.

I heartily agree with that. I can also see myself waiting to watch this on DVD at home so I can roll up and crack jokes like my own personal MST3K

TigerClaw 03-29-2017 06:57 PM

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Originally Posted by NinjaPug (Post 1672180)
What exactly are you disagreeing with? I never said you wouldn't like the movie.

Do you not consider Stanton to be a good director because his filmography is primarily animation?

John Carter bombed at the box office cause it wasn't marketed well.

NinjaPug 03-29-2017 07:23 PM

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Originally Posted by TigerClaw (Post 1672186)
John Carter bombed at the box office cause it wasn't marketed well.

What? First, that wasn't anywhere in your previous posts. Second, you made the comment that Valerian would be successful because it's "based on the comic that pretty much influence a lot of Scifi, including Star Wars" - that's exactly how John Carter was advertised.

drgon78 03-29-2017 10:20 PM

I love the Fifth Element and the Professional but I don't care much for most of the rest of his movies. I hope this movie will be good and if it is good I hope it will make money.

snake 03-29-2017 10:40 PM

It LOOKS visually appealing, but it's gonna flop hard. I'm all for more sci-fi in theaters, but there's no way it'll be a success.

TigerClaw just can't admit that or he'll go against his viral marketing contract.

TigerClaw 03-29-2017 10:48 PM

The movie looks cool, and I'm a sucker for these big epic scifi movies, I don't care if it's good, bad or indifferent, movies like this are the reason I go to the movies.

snake 03-29-2017 10:51 PM

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Originally Posted by TigerClaw (Post 1672271)
The movie looks cool, and I'm a sucker for these big epic scifi movies, I don't care if it's good, bad or indifferent, movies like this are the reason I go to the movies.

I never said it doesn't look cool. It does.

But it's a huge budget sci-fi movie based on a mostly unknown property. If it does well, I'll be shocked. I want you to say "this has a high chance of flopping". If you can't do that then you're pretty much outed as a shill.

TigerClaw 03-29-2017 10:59 PM

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Originally Posted by snake (Post 1672274)
I never said it doesn't look cool. It does.

But it's a huge budget sci-fi movie based on a mostly unknown property. If it does well, I'll be shocked. I want you to say "this has a high chance of flopping". If you can't do that then you're pretty much outed as a shill.

I don't judge movies based on trailers, you have to see it and then decide if its good or not, I always keep an open mind.

snake 03-29-2017 11:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TigerClaw (Post 1672281)
I don't judge movies based on trailers, you have to see it and then decide if its good or not, I always keep an open mind.

You're missing my point entirely. I'm done trying.

AT-Man 03-30-2017 04:30 AM

Are the two leads supposed to look like twins?

drgon78 03-30-2017 06:12 AM

They do like they could be related.

ProphetofGanja 03-30-2017 07:19 AM

I hope they got a decent performance out of Cara Delvigne, she was awful in Suicide Squad. That whole movie was awful. I think with better direction she could do alright

Andrew NDB 05-24-2017 06:44 PM



Man, between this and King Arthur... that's like half a billion dollars just thrown away. Box office poison.

Imagine all of the awesome small, not even indie movies that could have been funded with that. That money could have funded like, 40 John Wick-level movies.

Spike Spiegel 05-24-2017 09:42 PM

I'm not sure I'll go see this, but I have been checking out some of the original comics and they are pretty good.

Wildcat 05-24-2017 11:28 PM

I've never read the comics but every time I see the trailers on TV it looks pretty awesome.

Anyone else think the background music sounds like Gangsters Paradise from Dangerous Minds?

plastroncafe 05-25-2017 12:33 PM

Going to be very curious to see how this does Internationally, where the source material is better known.

Andrew NDB 05-25-2017 12:39 PM

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Originally Posted by plastroncafe (Post 1685181)
Going to be very curious to see how this does Internationally, where the source material is better known.

That's truly its only hope.

NinjaPug 06-29-2017 12:08 PM

Social media reaction embargo on this is up.

http://collider.com/valerian-reviews/

sdp 06-29-2017 12:18 PM

I don't know how I missed this movie, I love everything about it and it's right up my alley. I do think it'll bomb because awesome stuff like this that i like doesn't usually do well. Same with John Carter, amazing film but people didn't like it. We don't often get to see high sci-fi stuff like this movie, so it's a treat to finally get something high budget that does a lot of world building.

As far s the fifth element, I loved that movie as a kid when I saw it in theaters but after that I only watched half of it once on tv many years later and only until a few months ago did I re-watch the movie. I just never felt the need to re-watch that movie. The movie is alright, it doesn't do anything terribly wrong but there's just not much that is exciting for me to want to re-watch it.

TigerClaw 06-29-2017 12:18 PM

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Originally Posted by NinjaPug (Post 1694599)
Social media reaction embargo on this is up.

http://collider.com/valerian-reviews/

its got a lot of positive reaction, that's a good sign, I'm looking forward to this one. :)

Andrew NDB 06-29-2017 12:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by NinjaPug (Post 1694599)
Social media reaction embargo on this is up.

http://collider.com/valerian-reviews/

I'm stuck on the article itself there. "Anticipation for this one has been high for some looking to see Besson return to The Fifth Element territory after dabbling in more grounded action fare like Lucy recently."

Did the article writer actually see Lucy? She travels through time and 2001s the human race, for christ's sake.

TigerClaw 07-11-2017 12:28 PM

Reviews of the movie have been popping up, and it looks promising, the movie has a 74% on Rotten Tomatoes.
https://www.rottentomatoes.com/m/val...ousand_planets

Andrew NDB 07-26-2017 05:54 PM

No, not promising at all... it's down to 54%. The movie is a bonafide flop, as predicted... a 21 million dollar opening plus only 3 million overseas, against a $180 million dollar budget plus an estimated $100 million dollar marketing budget:

http://www.looper.com/76758/real-rea...ed-box-office/

http://www.the-numbers.com/movie/Val...e)#tab=summary

Such a failure it's bottomed out EuropaCorp stocks:

http://variety.com/2017/film/news/eu...nd-1202504169/

sdp 07-26-2017 06:56 PM

I didn't doubt this movie would be a flop but I think I will greatly enjoy it regardless of what the internet or critics think about it.

drgon78 07-27-2017 06:32 AM

I will be seeing ether today or tomorrow. I am sure I will enjoy it. Though it does sadden me that it is doing so bad.

Andrew NDB 07-27-2017 11:04 AM

10 out of 10 reviews destroy the story, that it's a brain dead script. The consensus I see is that -- without getting into story specifics -- if the two main characters had not gotten involved in the plot at all, things would have gotten resolved in exactly the same way as they did... the only difference is that a whole lot of people died as a direct result of their getting involved.

drgon78 07-27-2017 12:27 PM

I just saw it, I really liked it. It is of course no 5th Element but I wasn't expecting it to be.


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