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FredWolfLeonardo 11-11-2016 01:30 AM

Should Eric Sacks appear in the Nick cartoon and future tmnt versions?
 
What do you think?

He was actually my favorite character from the 2014 film and I think alot more can be done with him in future versions, so do you reckon he would make a good character if he was redone.

CyberCubed 11-11-2016 01:38 AM

Eric Sachs is literally the worst TMNT character ever created simply because of what he represents. He was going to be a white man Shredder. No Oroku Saki, it was white man Eric Sachs as Shredder.

A disgusting 60 year old crusty old white man as THE Shredder. Sickening.

It's a disgrace to the character and an insult to the TMNT franchise. I HATE him. He's probably the only TMNT character I truly hate.

Just makes me sick.

Wildcat 11-11-2016 01:57 AM

Well he's kinda generic. I'd rather Venus return in some updated way.

Autbot_Benz 11-11-2016 02:15 AM

http://i.imgur.com/RdriG43.gif

nobody wants Eric Sachs in any other TMNT media he is like Venus a stain on the TMNT franchise

CyberCubed 11-11-2016 02:27 AM

http://www.giantfreakinrobot.com/wp-...htner-tmnt.jpg

I hate him. I HATE Eric Sachs.

I hate him. I hate him. I hate him. I hate him. I hate him. I hate him. I hate him. I hate him. I hate him. I hate him. I hate him. I hate him. I hate him. I hate him. I hate him. I hate him. I hate him. I hate him. I hate him. I hate him.

I HATE him.

I actually enjoy watching the beginning of the Dark Knight now because I enjoy seeing Joker kill him in the opening bank robbery scene by shooting him and placing the grenade in his mouth. I pretend its Eric Sachs because he's played by the same actor.

neatoman 11-11-2016 03:41 AM

The character was originally going to be the Shredder, but then the movie was edited to make him a separate character. The problem then is that all you have left is an arrogant businessman who is also a scientist, a role easily filled by Baxter Stockman.

Although, as I was writing this, I realised that could be a pretty decent plot twist. You could there be a mystery of who Shredder is, most evidence points to the crimelord Oroku Saki, but then (with more discreet evidence pointing to him) it turns out to be Baxter Stockman, bum-bum-bum.

Fishface 11-11-2016 04:11 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CyberCubed (Post 1639364)
http://www.giantfreakinrobot.com/wp-...htner-tmnt.jpg

I hate him. I HATE Eric Sachs.

I hate him. I hate him. I hate him. I hate him. I hate him. I hate him. I hate him. I hate him. I hate him. I hate him. I hate him. I hate him. I hate him. I hate him. I hate him. I hate him. I hate him. I hate him. I hate him. I hate him.

I HATE him.

I actually enjoy watching the beginning of the Dark Knight now because I enjoy seeing Joker kill him in the opening bank robbery scene by shooting him and placing the grenade in his mouth. I pretend its Eric Sachs because he's played by the same actor.

Dude, shut up. You got your point across, you don't like Sachs. No one cares. Please stop spamming it. You already spammed on the OOTS thread, you don't need to do it here.

Anyways, on the ACTUAL topic itself, I can see him having an okay appearance in the show, but I don't think he will stand out and he will be another generic villain. On the overhand, we don't have enough human villains in the show so him the series is not a terrible idea but not the best idea.

But honestly if I had to pick Sachs or Tatsu, I would pick Tatsu as Tatsu deserves to be in the 2012 series more than Sachs.

snake 11-11-2016 05:56 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CyberCubed (Post 1639364)
http://www.giantfreakinrobot.com/wp-...htner-tmnt.jpg

I hate him. I HATE Eric Sachs.

I hate him. I hate him. I hate him. I hate him. I hate him. I hate him. I hate him. I hate him. I hate him. I hate him. I hate him. I hate him. I hate him. I hate him. I hate him. I hate him. I hate him. I hate him. I hate him. I hate him.

I HATE him.

I actually enjoy watching the beginning of the Dark Knight now because I enjoy seeing Joker kill him in the opening bank robbery scene by shooting him and placing the grenade in his mouth. I pretend its Eric Sachs because he's played by the same actor.

Finally, something new to trigger you with :lol:

Candy Kappa 11-11-2016 06:19 AM

lol, no. We have better evil business man villains to pick.

DestronMirage22 11-11-2016 08:21 AM

No. He was barely even a character in the one movie he was in. He was more like a leftover from when the movie was gonna be even worse, before they made all those edits.

TurtleTitan97 11-11-2016 08:42 AM

No thanks.

Candy Kappa 11-11-2016 09:10 AM

plus, without Fictner's hammy scenery chewing, there is nothing special to Sacks as a character. "stupid rich" is his one note.

thundermaster612 11-11-2016 09:14 AM

I may like the PD movies. But I ****ing hate Eric Sachs. One of the worst TMNT characters ever.

miru 11-11-2016 11:27 AM

Eric Sachs should only ever be brought up again in the franchise as a joke, much like several others.

CylonsKlingonsDaleksOhMy 11-11-2016 11:32 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by miru (Post 1639424)
Eric Sachs should only ever be brought up again in the franchise as a joke, much like several others.

TMNT Standup Routine:

"Venus"
<laughter>
"Zach"
<laughter>
"Cody"
<laughter>
"Serling"
<laughter>
"Eric Sachs!"
<roars of laughter>
"Megan Fox!"
<roars of laughter>
"Stephen Amell!"
<roars of laughter>
"NOSTRILS!!!!"
<a tsunami of laughter>
"Good night everyone, thanks for coming, you've been a wonderful audience!"
<riotous applause>

Andrew NDB 11-11-2016 12:15 PM

He was a little bit too much like an evil-leaning version of Max Winters from... the film right before it.

http://c8.alamy.com/comp/BR4736/max-...007-BR4736.jpg

CylonsKlingonsDaleksOhMy 11-11-2016 12:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Andrew NDB (Post 1639431)
He was a little bit too much like an evil-leaning version of Max Winters from... the film right before it.

At least THAT guy's plan sorta made sense.

Sachs' plan was the intellectual equivalent of a Jackson Pollock painting.

CyberCubed 11-11-2016 12:44 PM

And now we have Darius Dunn in the IDW comic doing the same thing.

How many evil business men do we need?

Andrew NDB 11-11-2016 01:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CyberCubed (Post 1639442)
And now we have Darius Dunn in the IDW comic doing the same thing.

How many evil business men do we need?

One more.

http://www.miragelicensing.com/comic...book/02/02.jpg

neatoman 11-11-2016 01:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Andrew NDB (Post 1639454)

That's a businesswoman now.
http://vignette1.wikia.nocookie.net/...20150320194445

CyberCubed 11-11-2016 01:34 PM

Null becoming a female is one of the few gender changes I actually like. Hell has no fury like a woman scorned, literally.

neatoman 11-11-2016 01:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CyberCubed (Post 1639458)
Null becoming a female is one of the few gender changes I actually like. Hell has no fury like a woman scorned, literally.

Me too!... For, uh... Different reasons...


That reminds me, is she like a literal demon or just demon-like (think Nightcrawler)?

BTW, thanks for reminding me of the latest episode of South Park.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bill Clinton
You see, hell has no fury like a woman scorned. And trust me, my wife is a crazy bitch. She and all the other women in the world are about to get payback, and we are all completely ****ed. It's my fault, really. I've done things my whole life that gradually broke her spirit, and now that she lost everything let me assure you, she is piiiiiiiiiissssed. Now our only chance is to keep our heads low and act like we're changed men, because we're very close to the end...

... Women are sick of our ****, son, and soon they're gonna know everything we've said and done online. Unless we start kissing their asses, we're all going to be put in a big chamber underground and milked for our semen!

... What if Null is a mutant Hillary Clinton?

Andrew NDB 11-11-2016 02:21 PM

If IDW follows suit with who Null was supposed to be in the Archies then I guess IDW Null would have to be...
Spoiler:
Paula K. Allen at Nickelodeon
.

DestronMirage22 11-11-2016 03:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Andrew NDB (Post 1639466)
If IDW follows suit with who Null was supposed to be in the Archies then I guess IDW Null would have to be...
Spoiler:
Paula K. Allen at Nickelodeon
.

Did they ever say who Null was supposed to be in real life?

Andrew NDB 11-11-2016 03:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DestronMirage22 (Post 1639488)
Did they ever say who Null was supposed to be in real life?

Murphy did privately.

DestronMirage22 11-11-2016 03:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Andrew NDB (Post 1639492)
Murphy did privately.

He did? How long ago was that? And how didn't I hear the news?

CyberCubed 11-11-2016 03:44 PM

IDW will probably retcon Null into part of the Pantheon with Kitsune and Rat King.

Andrew NDB 11-11-2016 03:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CyberCubed (Post 1639495)
IDW will probably retcon Null into part of the Pantheon with Kitsune and Rat King.

Probably. He's supposed to be a bit meta... a bit of 4th wall breakage. If IDW just makes "her" into an actual demon, or part of some spiritual circle of beings... that's missing the whole point of the character.

Powder 11-11-2016 04:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DestronMirage22 (Post 1639494)
He did? How long ago was that? And how didn't I hear the news?

Might've been the whole private aspect?

Casey 11-11-2016 04:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CyberCubed (Post 1639355)
Eric Sachs is literally the worst TMNT character ever created simply because of what he represents. He was going to be a white man Shredder. No Oroku Saki, it was white man Eric Sachs as Shredder.

A disgusting 60 year old crusty old white man as THE Shredder. Sickening.

It's a disgrace to the character and an insult to the TMNT franchise. I HATE him. He's probably the only TMNT character I truly hate.

Just makes me sick.

What he said.

IndigoErth 11-11-2016 05:05 PM

Only if it's a crossover so 2012 (or other versions) can look at 2014 like, "Wait... this guy is you guys' villain? Seriously... "

Spoiler:
"Yeah, why?"
"He's at least a Kraang android, right?"
"No. What's that?"
"So he's just a guy in a business suit...?"
"Yeah."
*sigh*
"Well we DO have a Shredder."
"Oh, okay, well in that case..."
"But he doesn't get involved all that much."
>.>

DestronMirage22 11-11-2016 05:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Powder (Post 1639511)
Might've been the whole private aspect?

Did he only tell a couple of his friends or something? I thought he would've done something like that on a blog something. :ohwell:

Shellington 11-12-2016 02:57 AM

As an alias to Oruku Saki, but no more.

WebLurker 11-22-2016 11:09 PM

If they can think of a good story that Sacks would work in, why not bring him back?

sdp 04-10-2017 01:33 PM

Yes, I want him back.

CyberCubed 04-10-2017 02:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sdp (Post 1675477)
Yes, I want him back.

I bet you revived this thread just so I would post in it. Eric Sachs deserves to rot in the fiery pits of hell and die a death of 1000 suns. Never before has these been a TMNT character that deserves to be erased from existence. I didn't even feel this way about Venus.

snake 04-10-2017 02:48 PM

If they have a good story for him, sure. Null or Max Winters kind of use his function though.

sdp 04-10-2017 05:13 PM

I don't remember Null since it's been a while that I read Archie but he's not really like Max Winters; Winters was an aztec warrior who could live forever and had other warrior brothers, sure he was rich but that's about the only common thing.


Sacks is also a scientist and related to April which kind of steps on Baxter Stockman's shoes a bit but he's not such a bad character and I wish he would've appeared in OOTS since it feels like poor writing for him not to even be mentioned. At the end of the day he was not Shredder just as the turtles were not aliens and while he was a bit unnecessary you can work with him in a new interpretation. A foot leader who is a businessman and knows some science? Why not instead of some generic guy in that role.

Aaronardo 04-10-2017 07:16 PM

Dear god, someone asked this and someone revived the thread? As many things I hated about that movie, Eric Sachs was the one thing I hated the absolute most, mostly because his inclusion triggered many of the plot's faults. I think Cubed summed up my own thoughts on this subject pretty perfectly:

Quote:

Originally Posted by CyberCubed (Post 1639364)
I hate him. I HATE Eric Sachs.

I hate him. I hate him. I hate him. I hate him. I hate him. I hate him. I hate him. I hate him. I hate him. I hate him. I hate him. I hate him. I hate him. I hate him. I hate him. I hate him. I hate him. I hate him. I hate him. I hate him.

I HATE him.

I actually enjoy watching the beginning of the Dark Knight now because I enjoy seeing Joker kill him in the opening bank robbery scene by shooting him and placing the grenade in his mouth. I pretend its Eric Sachs because he's played by the same actor.


neatoman 04-11-2017 04:51 AM

Well Shredder is in hell, perfect time for Mr. "Stupid Rich" to step in as his replacement.


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