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victory_angel 11-13-2016 12:31 AM

Official Episode Discussion S4 Ep 21: Darkest Plight
 
After an intense episode last week, we are now given it's continuation "Darkest Plight". The Turtles are looking for Splinter, but quickly find out they are the ones being hunted.

Things are rapidly coming to a head as season 4 crawls towards its inevitable conclusion. Remember TMNT is now airing at 9 AM on Sundays.

Vicky82 11-13-2016 01:23 AM

It's up on ITUNES Now

oh by the way

Spoiler:
The Rat King Returns :D


Thats the only spoiler i've seen so i'm going to do what I did last week, keep away from spoilers.

Redworld96 11-13-2016 02:09 AM

Dudes … I really have been anguished watching this episode …. but the plot twist inside the main plot twist was very good! Anyway, there is still a scene from the Nick trailer that didnt appear in the last 2 episodes :/

Spoiler:
Poor Splinter, it has been hard seeing him suffer with the Rat King during all the episode
Spoiler:
Even when all that was just an hallucination and we discover the Rat King's skeleton :o I guess RK didnt survive the fall, or maybe he died few days after


PD: There's a scene between Bebop and Rocksteady very cute and awkward at the same time XDDD You will see

neatoman 11-13-2016 04:41 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Redworld96 (Post 1639822)
Dudes … I really have been anguished watching this episode …. but the plot twist inside the main plot twist was very good! Anyway, there is still a scene from the Nick trailer that didnt appear in the last 2 episodes :/

Spoiler:
Poor Splinter, it has been hard seeing him suffer with the Rat King during all the episode
Spoiler:
Even when all that was just an hallucination and we discover the Rat King's skeleton :o I guess RK didnt survive the fall, or maybe he died few days after


PD: There's a scene between Bebop and Rocksteady very cute and awkward at the same time XDDD You will see

So is it like
Spoiler:
the Rat King's appearence in Mirage's City at War? Complete with him telling Splinter to do anything to survive?

Redworld96 11-13-2016 04:50 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by neatoman (Post 1639827)
So is it like
Spoiler:
the Rat King's appearence in Mirage's City at War? Complete with him telling Splinter to do anything to survive?

https://cdn.meme.am/instances/48795435.jpg

Yes, a very well done scene

myconius 11-13-2016 05:11 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by neatoman (Post 1639827)
So is it like
Spoiler:
the Rat King's appearence in Mirage's City at War? Complete with him telling Splinter to do anything to survive?

it was making me think of that very scene from the comics as well

Vicky82 11-13-2016 06:40 AM

Holy ****!!!!!!! that episode was the most darkest I have ever seen, :o, I loved it, even though some moments made me sick. :D

I can't believe that some of the moments in the episode got past the censors.

Technogeek29 11-13-2016 07:07 AM

Well everyone has said it. I got it animated now I just need to see it on the silver screen.:D

shredder orokusaki 11-13-2016 07:28 AM


MOD EDIT: Good god man, SPOILER TAGS! And maybe stop being an insufferable annoyance. Maybe they are modeling Nick Shredder after you...

TurFlytle 11-13-2016 07:29 AM

Spoiler:
Something tells me that mutagen isn't just going to refill him. I think it's going to mutate him to an even more grotesque monster with hardly a coherent thought (and probably not speaking actual words anymore), which will lead to his demise.

Technogeek29 11-13-2016 07:30 AM

Img too big put in spoilers or find smaller images.

TurFlytle 11-13-2016 07:32 AM

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Originally Posted by shredder orokusaki (Post 1639837)
I beat the turtles again and now i become even more of amonter with the second dose of mutagen!!
~snip~

Holy hell, spoiler those pics. They're way too big.

shredder orokusaki 11-13-2016 07:33 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TurFlytle (Post 1639838)
Spoiler:
Something tells me that mutagen isn't just going to refill him. I think it's going to mutate him to an even more grotesque monster with hardly a coherent thought (and probably not speaking actual words anymore), which will lead to his demise.

That why i took another dose to i can become even more monster and stronger. After i kill turtles and splinter i will take retromutagen and become human again!

shredder orokusaki 11-13-2016 07:34 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TurFlytle (Post 1639840)
Holy hell, spoiler those pics. They're way too big.

I wanted to show evryone what i did to the turtles!!

matteso586 11-13-2016 07:35 AM

Spoiler:
I figured that Darkest Plight will be a loose adaptation of a well known moment Mirage's City at War. I'm glad they kind of adapted out the cannibalism part, by having Splinter refuse. And it looks like the question about Rat King surviving is finally answered. Although those that have read the original City at War would know that Splinter was just hallucinating.

ToTheNines 11-13-2016 07:52 AM

Oh, wow. Two righteous episodes in a row!

The beginning stuff with Splinter was brutal, especially the bite. I have a pretty bad fear of falling and they made that pretty freaky, especially him banging off of all the steel. Then his leg was so mangled!

The RK stuff was perfect, too. Whereas Splinter was born a rat in Mirage, it made sense that Yoshi didn't succumb and eat a rat. Although, in the comics it happened over the course of several days, so maybe he eventually would have cracked. So cool that they showed his skeleton! Makes "Of Rats and Men" even cooler in retrospect.

The rest of the stuff was awesome. Leo had some great combat moments, and Raph and CJ had a cool fight with B&R. I was so ready to see Karai finish Shredder, but I guess that won't be until the finale.

Oh, and new opening stuff! And Rise of the Turtles flashback! (Who voiced Leo for that?)

I give it a 9/10. Loses a point for Mikey, Bebop and Rocksteady being so annoying, and April being so powerful.

asfaloth12 11-13-2016 07:52 AM

Wow, that was a really good episode! Pretty dark, too. Poor Splinter (and Leo! Goodness, that boy has been through the wringer, too). I was wincing through a lot of their scenes; I swear my leg was aching in sympathy.
Loved Karai and April in this (you go, girls!), although we know that April's crystal is bad news.
Looking forward to the next episode :D

Vicky82 11-13-2016 08:02 AM

Shocking moments in the episode

Super Shredder deformed arm
Splinter's broken Leg
Splinter putting his broken leg back in place with that bandage
The whole Rat King delusion
Rat King's skeleton
Blood coming out of April's nose
Leo getting beat up by Super Shredder
Karai punching Shredder in the heart and he throws up green stuff

Ok, why couldn't the movie be shocking and dark like this.

Redworld96 11-13-2016 08:03 AM

Sorry not so sorry but:

https://67.media.tumblr.com/62762cd9...hk25o1_540.jpg

thundermaster612 11-13-2016 08:03 AM

Spoiler:
That was a great episode, but I'm still questioning how Splinter survived that fall. We also didn't need to see that half naked Rat King pop out of the Ratzilla thing. The fight scenes were good too, but I'm curious as to what will happen with Shredder getting drugged up on mutagen. Also is it just me or does SS' scale change throughout the episode? Like first he's a giant but later on he shrinks and then grows a little in the street fight


EDIT: when did blood coming out of April's nose happen? I didn't see that

NikitaZhukov 11-13-2016 08:05 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by thundermaster612 (Post 1639856)
EDIT: when did blood coming out of April's nose happen? I didn't see that

When she throws a truck in Super Shredder.

Jester 11-13-2016 08:11 AM

Right before her eyes glow blue, right?

So...did the Rat King turn into a literal Rat King?

pannoni1 11-13-2016 08:11 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by thundermaster612 (Post 1639856)
Spoiler:
That was a great episode, but I'm still questioning how Splinter survived that fall.


EDIT: when did blood coming out of April's nose happen? I didn't see that

LOL about Splinter surviving the fall. How many times has Wil E. Coyote survived 'em? Overall, these last two episodes have been very tense with so much action going on, and I thought R&B's "let the Turtles do all the work" was funny, along with the breakdancing gab.

A bit OT, but I'm glad to see Nick putting out some programming to get me excited about, from the return of Legends of the Hidden Temple to a new season of the Paradise Celebrity show.

Show Grade: 8/10

Vicky82 11-13-2016 08:12 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by thundermaster612 (Post 1639856)
Spoiler:
That was a great episode, but I'm still questioning how Splinter survived that fall. We also didn't need to see that half naked Rat King pop out of the Ratzilla thing. The fight scenes were good too, but I'm curious as to what will happen with Shredder getting drugged up on mutagen. Also is it just me or does SS' scale change throughout the episode? Like first he's a giant but later on he shrinks and then grows a little in the street fight


EDIT: when did blood coming out of April's nose happen? I didn't see that

Quote:

Originally Posted by NikitaZhukov (Post 1639858)
When she throws a truck in Super Shredder.

https://66.media.tumblr.com/d08d0589...9c31o5_500.gif

It was like a Invisible Woman moment

Haalix 11-13-2016 08:17 AM

Holy...! That was an intense episode. I'm not complaining, but some moments were really gruesome. Loved them nevertheless but I wonder how Nick got away with them. Leo screaming in anguish, splinter and Shredder falling and the whole hallucination.
Love The fighting in this episode. Though I wish Don and Mikey will have some moments next episode!

9.5/10 for me (minus points for Casey being annoying as always, and Mikey talking with Bebop and Rocksteady)

ToTheNines 11-13-2016 08:18 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jester (Post 1639861)
Right before her eyes glow blue, right?

So...did the Rat King turn into a literal Rat King?

Ha, yeah. He did pretty much the same thing in New Animated Adventures #8 (an issue that I consider to be canon with the show).

http://1.bp.blogspot.com/--pv17y2_Zk.../s1600/8-3.jpg

BubblyShell22 11-13-2016 08:44 AM

A very intense episode and some dark moments too. It was awesome to see RK and that adaptation of the comics as well since I know many fans were predicting it would happen. Loved the fight scenes and I feel so bad for Leo getting beaten up by Shredder again! Let's hope he gets some payback soon because no one messes with my boy in blue and gets away with it! At least they found Splinter so they can be whole again. Also loved how Karai and April teamed up. Overall, a pretty awesome episode.

TurFlytle 11-13-2016 08:49 AM

Was I the only one getting Tim Burton vibes from the Rat King monster?

picassotheninjaturtle 11-13-2016 09:13 AM

Has April transformed into Eleven from Stranger Things.

Fang Wolf 11-13-2016 09:16 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Vicky82 (Post 1639854)
Karai punching Shredder in the heart and he throws up green stuff

I think Shredder throws up Mutagen? That why is arm be weird for Mutagen leave his body..
http://s26.postimg.org/b3qqgay4p/tum...kxdo7_1280.jpg
http://s26.postimg.org/weoakkg95/Scr...3_17_19_10.png


- I like this Ep...look for see next one...

Technogeek29 11-13-2016 09:26 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by picassotheninjaturtle (Post 1639883)
Has April transformed into Eleven from Stranger Things.

More accurate is Jean Grey.

ssjup81 11-13-2016 10:34 AM

Splinter surviving the fall didn't surprise me. It wasn't a straight drop for him, right? It's like Casey back in the ep where he fought Tigerclaw. It wasn't a straight drop, so the impact wasn't as strong.

ssjup81 11-13-2016 10:38 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BubblyShell22 (Post 1639872)
A very intense episode and some dark moments too. It was awesome to see RK and that adaptation of the comics as well since I know many fans were predicting it would happen. Loved the fight scenes and I feel so bad for Leo getting beaten up by Shredder again! Let's hope he gets some payback soon because no one messes with my boy in blue and gets away with it! At least they found Splinter so they can be whole again. Also loved how Karai and April teamed up. Overall, a pretty awesome episode.

I liked their team up too, but it would've been nice if Shini had been involved too...and I still want to see Casey meet her. lol

Vicky82 11-13-2016 10:40 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ssjup81 (Post 1639902)
Splinter surviving the fall didn't surprise me. It wasn't a straight drop for him, right? It's like Casey back in the ep where he fought Tigerclaw. It wasn't a straight drop, so the impact wasn't as strong.

Splinter must of gotten more injured when he hit those steel beams though.

Technogeek29 11-13-2016 10:44 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Vicky82 (Post 1639904)
Splinter must of gotten more injured when he hit those steel beams though.

The concussion he probably suffered did more than the fall.

PApagreg 11-13-2016 10:46 AM

Okay episode, really liked the scenes with Rat King and Splinter but felt kinda annoyed that this is the third time the cast was sad that "Splinter was gone" and Casey is still annoying.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Vicky82 (Post 1639863)
It was like a Invisible Woman moment

You're thinking of Jean Grey

Utrommaniac 11-13-2016 11:14 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Vicky82 (Post 1639863)
https://66.media.tumblr.com/d08d0589...9c31o5_500.gif

It was like a Invisible Woman moment

Oh god, I never noticed that. Time to sit back and wait for the Stranger Things jokes. However...why is this the only time there's blood in this episode? Between all the times of foot crushing and rat bites (which will bleed like a b****), this is the time that it shows up???

MrTMNT2012 11-13-2016 11:15 AM

Some really good fight choreography in there; Season 1 Tier. That's about it.

The writing was definitely better than last week's though. Does anyone who wrote this one? Felt like there was real effort made to develop Splinter's introspective character arc and Shredder's relationship with Karai but ultimately it went nowhere.

Did enjoy how dark it was (actually cringed when Shredder's arm deformed the first time, that was AWESOME!) and even the Episode Title itself seems to have been given more thought than usual.

On the subject of continuity, THIS is more like it; Rat King's addition was clever and actually fit in with present context without just being a dumb throwaway line.

6.5/10

Vicky82 11-13-2016 11:18 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MrTMNT2012 (Post 1639915)
Some really good fight choreography in there; Season 1 Tier. That's about it.

The writing was definitely better than last week's though. Does anyone who wrote this one? Felt like there was real effort made to develop Splinter's introspective character arc and Shredder's relationship with Karai but ultimately it went nowhere.

Did enjoy how dark it was (actually cringed when Shredder's arm deformed the first time, that was AWESOME!) and even the Episode Title itself seems to have been given more thought than usual.

On the subject of continuity, THIS is more like it; Rat King's addition was clever and actually fit in with present context without just being a dumb throwaway line.

6.5/10

Randolph Heard wrote the episode

Autbot_Benz 11-13-2016 11:19 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by shredder orokusaki (Post 1639837)

MOD EDIT: Good god man, SPOILER TAGS! And maybe stop being an insufferable annoyance. Maybe they are modeling Nick Shredder after you...

how haven't you been been banned yet seriously


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