TMNT #64 Preview & Discussion
 

Preview here.

I am LOVING that page with the four Turtles, Splinter, and Angel leading the charge of the Foot ninja. :tcool:

Yeah, that's pretty bad ass

This looks like it'll be an exciting issue. I wonder what they're referring to when they say "long-lasting story shift". If TMNTU is any indication, maybe the main story will focus on Bishop and the EPF? Or possibly Old Hob and the Mutanimals and their first meeting with Leatherhead? Or maybe back to the Pantheon?? Or maybe the Utroms and Triceratons??? Or something else????

I'm thinking the turtles are going to separate from the foot and splinter after this. Splinter is gonna have Jennika kill Dunn and all 4 of them are going to leave like Mikey did after 50

Sir! You share my exact same theory for the outcome of this issue and story arc! I am REQUIRED to now buy you a beer and toast your intellectual cunning.

Greetings all,

I actually dropped off this book around issue #52. While I love a lot about this book, it's been hit or miss for me and I decided to walk away for a while and possibly catch up later on.

Would love to hear some opinions on the last year or so of the book.
I'm generally a fan of this book from a conceptual standpoint. The reincarnation angle was really fresh and intruiging.
The longform storytelling is also a treat and a rarity in general when it comes to comics these days.

On the other hand, the dialogue usually doesn't gel with me and there sometimes feels like a lack of danger or stakes. Thing's like brainwashing as a catalyst for drama("Dark Leo") and death coming off as weightless(Donatello's "death" and immediate return) are also critiques I have.

That said, I have 100% respect for the creators behind the book, because I realize they are working within guidelines given by the owners of the property.

What say you, Technodrome?

The next issues after January are probably going to be The Great "f*** you, dad!"

They probably won't separate from each other, but it's a question of where they'll all stay. Probably in the old lair that Michelangelo cleaned up. Or Harold- possibly with Libby. Straight from (deliberate?) no kids to four teenage boys :lol: .

My personal issue with it is that its slow burn takes way too long, and there are some elements of the characters that just aren't totally rounded off. I think about this with Krang a lot. He spends years protecting his species in stasis, and when one of them dies from having its Ooze stolen, he withdraws into thinking his Rock Soldier assuming he was helpless and thinks about when he stopped being bratty teenager??? No showing of outrage that he failed one individual so close to the end? I've always thought it was a little off that it was never spoken of again. Maybe it'll come up when we go back to Burnow Island.

Well, you're missing Splinter running the Foot Clan and a widening gulf between him and the Turtles.

You're also missing Agent Bishop FINALLY being introduced into IDW (and he is great), Leatherhead and a murder mystery, AND the next big story arc after this current arc will be (99% sure) Mutanimals versus Bishop.

So yeah. Get back on the bandwagon, boyo! :tgrin:

Yes, you've missed out on some greatness. I kinda envy that you'll be able to binge-read the last year or of issues if you so choose

I will freely admit a lot of these stories read MUCH better in trade format. The monthly grind is appalling at times.

Feels like FOREVER since #63 came out.

Since post issue 50 the best story was the Utroms/Leatherhead arc in the middle, as well as Mikey's moment with Hob and the Mutanimals.

I must admit the current arc with Darius/Phantoms/Harold, etc. has been dragging for a while since the set-up started since issue #51, but this seems to be the last issue of it so far. The best part of it is Splinter possibly going mad with power over his control over the Foot Clan and keeping secrets from the Turtles.

Its the two weeks between #62 and #63 then four weeks between #63 and #64 that caused it.

Also, the theory you expressed was my theory first!:trazz:

Don't forget the one-shot Michelangelo vs Wyrm!

I think a few of us all agreed on that theory. Beers all 'round!

And yeah... I'm more excited for the Leatherhead versus Hob issue, but more curious about the Michelangelo versus Wyrm issue. :tgrin:

I am excited for all three TMNT books!

We really need Bishop in the main ongoing soon. I hope its one of the next big story arcs.

I'm wondering now if Libby is the one who might get Jennikilled by mistake since her arguing with Harold in that mech suit sure looks menacing...

Cheers!

I've really been digging universe too. I'm in the same boat, cuz the hob/leatherhead story with Dialynas art is gonna be awesome but I'm curious about IDW Wyrm and everything about him. It just seems to be a kind of out of left field character to introduce. Should be fun though

Thanks for the replies everyone.

splinter keeping secrets from the turtles sounds pretty juicy, but if he's being brainwashed I'm totally out.

No he is not, he is completely making all these choices on his own.

My guess is Wyrm is just a fun one-off "filler mutant" similar to how the cartoons just introduce a random mutant for no reason sometimes. Nothing wrong with that, could be a fun story. And who knows, he may become important later on too.

Can't wait to see the fallout of this issue!

Yeah this is just what happens when you end up as the head of a gigantic ninja organization. He's being pragmatic because his family has been on the run and in hiding for 2 lifetimes and now that he actually has power he is trying to keep what is his safe.

The turtles might not understand because frankly they are teenagers and to them it might seem like a big heel turn but they haven't seen half of the inner depth that IDW has baked into Splinter. He's still the same father they have always had he just has a much more important role in their larger family that is the foot.

Another thing to add is that the Turtles have basically always identified the Foot Clan as a threat, but to Splinter they are his roots and entirely redeemable under the proper management.

I'm not sure where the whole brainwashed Splinter thing came from, but it grossly misreads the scenario that's playing out in Chasing Phantoms. The divide we are seeing is all about the shades of grey at play in the family.

Nailed it! I already love this new direction and it hasn't even properly started yet.

That's me read the review copy. Some great stuff, art is ace and there is some very deliberate badarse shots of Splinter being a boss. The end....well no spoilers but looks like there are big changes coming and my jaw widened at one part.....bit of a shock.

this was such a satisfying conclusion to many on the plot threads that have been building up!
as action packed as issues #49 & #50 were, this actually had a LOT more of an emotional impact!

Bishop has to deal with his mutant agenda then go to Burnow Island and stir Chr'ell who will then free Krang and then Harold will turn back to Donatello. It could be a calendar year before that happens as the chain reaction above has to unfold.

I told you so.

ESPECIALLY you, Cubed. :trazz:

you really think it'll take as many as FIVE issues???? :lol:

good catch one the hand holding the Santa mug! it didn't occur to me when i first saw the drawing posted.

"Five issues" was rhetorical, sorry :P . I don't mean it literally.

Yeah, I don't see Krang coming back until at least 2018. We've got the Mutanimals story coming up, and Bobby hinted at the Triceratons in 2017. There wouldn't be room for Ch'rell to attempt rescuing Krang in the middle of of a Triceraton storyline if they come to Earth.

i'm just kidding!!! :P

no i only meant that to -

you never know though?

they might be able to properly tie the Ch'rell and Krang stories together?
at least plant some seeds?

Oh man, that would be really funny :lol: .

It would make sense for The Great (Krang) Escape to lead in directly from the storyline where Ch'rell is let out - be it Bishop or Triceratons, but it won't overlap. Besides, given Ch'rell's reputation in this take, he probably wouldn't be leaving Burnow in the middle of an attack.
Invasion happens, Ch'rell is let out, he helps save the day, he's told about Krang's inprisonment, he skulks for a long time while planning a rescue, he does it. Whether he succeeds or not is anyone's guess.

that that WOULD be pretty funny!! :lol:
buried with that Science Fair award jammed RIGHT up his . . . . :D

yeah that scenario you described sounds more likely.
i guess we'll have to wait and see how the events of Burnow Island unfold?
i usually don't like to look TOO far ahead with solicits, as i like to be surprised when reading a story.
though when you're really excited for the next month's issue, it's pretty hard to not peek ahead!!! :D

I'm going to have to make a little silly sketch on that.

With the mutanimals storyline being 4 issues, February to May, it won't be until past June if we ever get back to Burnow.

And we're still waiting around for confirmation on how Honeycutt's repairs are going!

look forward to seeing it :D

take your time.
really capture him in ALL his splendid glory! :lol:

Holy crap! I did not expect Darius and Libby to get killed off this quickly, I can see the rationale with Darius (given how many similar characters are running around) but Libby was quite shocking.

Edit: Oh, and I'm not sure if Libby's armor was a reference to this, given the more simple design, but it could be.

http://vignette2.wikia.nocookie.net/...20160519032012

http://bigglasgowcomic.com/review-te...ja-turtles-64/

My latest review. It was posted yesterday and IDW are quite rightly strict about spoilers since we get advanced copies so it's pretty vague on the plot details.

At my other message boards spoilers are required for the first 24 hours in these kind of threads to allow others time to read but also discuss other points made in the thread. Perhaps something could be implemented at least in the comic section?

Yeah that's a good rule, but I still don't trust everyone else to always remember to follow it so I just stay away from forums and websites until I catch up on the current issue/episode/installment/what-have-you

but yeah, that was a great issue, very emotional. it did a good job of showing the complexity of Splinter and the Turtles' situation

A memo like what is done with the links to full episodes posted in sections related to the different cartoons should do the trick. After some time it would be ingrained in us that we are required to use spoiler tags for 24 hours.