Is Mondo Gecko unnecessary?
 

Seriously, he's just comic relief. And SERIOUSLY BAD COMIC RELIEF. Every episode he shows up in, he gets beat up or ridiculed. At least Muckman could fight.

yeah, I don't like him. I don't think he brings anything to the table. As for comic relief, we already have plenty of that, we've got Michelangelo, etc...

Yea, I feel like the writers dropped the ball with Mondo here. Sure he was always a Mikey clone in the cartoons, but they also gave him a little more depth in the Archie comics, especially when concerning his girlfriend. Here, he's a total spazz, and it's just sad to watch. I have gotten used to his design though.

I have no problems with Nick's version of Mondo Gecko, it is what it is, a Nick version, I liked how the Archie Comics handled him, and IDW's version was pretty good.

He was in what...like 3 episodes? Jesus Christ, you people complain about anything.

That's not the point cubes. It's the character we're talking about, not how many Eps he's been in.

I don't know why they made him a wimp that can't fight. In an action show like this.... why even introduce him? I have no problem with him per say, they definitely got the 'Mikey's best friend who jams to the same frequency' part right, but if the dude could actually fight he'd be complete.

I mean we all have our favorite 80s characters we wish to see updated and brought back, but imagine if they brought back Muckman, Mona Lisa (who had a huge fan base despite being in only one episode), or God forbid all time fan favorite Slash and made them into total useless wimps. They really dropped the ball with Mondo.

To be fair Cubed, you did complain about Hun and the Neutrinos' designs with the former being in 3-4 episodes while the latter were only in one.

i don't have a problem with him overall.

but they could give him more of a purpose rather than him just being a bumbling doofus.

Yes, yes he is. I'm pretty sure he was only introduced to justify bringing in Robbie Rist, just so they could say "Look, we got Mikey from the 90's movies in the show!".

I feel the exact same way.

That's the joke.

I agree with Cyber here, he does have a role as a friend to Mikey and mutanimal comic relief, but I think its fair to say that he doesn't really serve any narrative purpose. His character would be served far better if he had some kind of stake in what was going on, rather than just being... 'there'

But he wasn't before. Why even bring him back if he was going to be like that. Imagine doing that to leatherhead or Mutagen Man. Even pizza face was a threat.

I wish he'd have showed up a little sooner and got a bit of development. He's a fun character, though it would have been nice to see him be around a bit more and develop a little more purpose in the show.

That said, I don't have anything against having characters who aren't really fighters, it's cool that the Turtles could simply have some friends to hang out with on off-days, but if he's not a really a fighter then maybe don't get him involved in that aspect of the show rather than have him just being a rag doll to be beaten on. Maybe he could have found use as a spy for the Turtles team, given those wall-climbing feet and all. (And color changing ability? I think Geckos do that?)

Why would you be comparing Mondo Gecko, who was really nothing more than a toy character, to Leatherhead, who is one of the pivotal TMNT characters/mutants in almost every incarnation?

Of course Leatherhead is going to get a big role and treated properly, he is a TMNT staple. Mondo Gecko is just a toy character you can do anything with.

He was only in 2 episodes of the original cartoon. In Archie after he joined the Mutanimals he basically became a background character with little to no characerisation. In IDW even though he's handled properly, he still has no real seperate character of his own from the Mutanimals.

I don't think Pivotal means what you think it means.

I get this from dictionary.com:

Leatherhead is none of those things.

And again, this show is so unpredictable that they could have made leatherhead a bumbling buffoon if they so pleased. Noone is safe. Remember how they turned Hun into Bruce Lee? Or April into a teenage Mary Sue?

Mondo Gecko might not have been an important character in the grand scheme of things, though you already listed 3 incarnations of him, but useless wimp isn't how one would have thought of him whenever it was announced he would be coming back in this new show. Napoleon I kinda get since not many people liked the frogs in the OT and they weren't exactly formidable there either. But Mondo? Naw, you do him right or why even bother.

Or how they turned Mona Lisa, a human turned mutant lizard into an alien lizard, The Nick show took a whole lot of liberties, some characters are in name only and not like the originals.

I dig him. Probably my favourite peripheral character on the show.

One thing I can say about the Nick version of Mondo Geck is, He's more or less close to the Archie comics version, Being that he started out as human, Though he was in a rock band in the comics, and on Nick he was more a skateboarding type dude.

Archie Comic

http://static3.comicvine.com/uploads...8-mutating.jpg

http://miragelicensing.com/comics/archie/18/1803.jpg

Fred Wolf

http://www.adventuresinpoortaste.com...cko-origin.jpg

http://www.adventuresinpoortaste.com...ondo-gecko.jpg

IDW

http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-gWPiHtyCln...1600/tmnt4.png

Nickelodeon

http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-QRWl-sTqIc...-Nick-TMNT.jpg

However, Mona Lisa was an unimportant character who appeared in one episode of the OT and had a toy. Hun appeared in most episodes of the 2003 show, and is also in the Mirage comics and eventually IDW. He was portrayed as large, intimidating brute of a man, though not too well versed in martial arts, unlike Nick Hun is. The change doesn't bother me too much, but it's much more drastic a change than to Mona Lisa, as Hun was a major character in a couple incarnations, yet Mona Lisa existed for one episode.

LOL, what on earth? Mondo Gecko is a toy character who only appeared in 2 measly episodes in the OT and even in Archie after his debut he just became background fodder in the Mutanimals.

Mondo Gecko isn't even a remotely important character, they can do whatever they want with him. The only thing he needs to be is:

a) A gecko (obviously, its in his name)

b) Some sort of skater teenage hipster gimmick, which he has

Is he necessary to the show? No. To be honest there are a lot of characters that aren't. I find him amusing, though, so I don't mind. :lol:

I like Mondo Gecko, He and Mikey play off each other, He's someone Mikey can relate too, cause they like the same things.

you have to admit that mutagen man pre mutant was the DUMBEST character ever created for TV? Jar Jar had more brains.....



But yeah, Mondo, and pigeon Pete before him where just pointless additions. someone saw an excuse to bring on movie mike as a voice, and I guess that was the character they chose. he serves no other purpose than that.

I agree. Mona Lisa I have no real problem with (other than being ANOTHER romantic interest, but at least THAT one fits, since that's how she was originally).

Hun got beaten by Casey Fricken Jones on his first episode out. He's not much of a threat. Just a ridiculous Jackie Chan impression.


Hun, Bishop, Mondo, Wastes of character re inventions.

We all have different character favorites, just like when you were spazzing over a Russian Rocksteady, another character that in your logic, is just to sell toys and just needed to be a mutant rhino. They didn't even keep the street punk part, while at least Gecko was still a skateboarder.

But yes, we all have our favorites and Mondo was one of mine. I was happy to hear he'd be featured in the show and voiced by Movie Mike only to see this wimp waste of space. We can't even have Mikey and Mondo kicking ass together since in this version he'd have to always be watching his back.

Mona Lisa was nothing more than a love interest for Raph in ONE episode, and yet was turned into a kickass alien lizard/salamander. They didn't have to make her badass, or even bring her back, but yes they did and everyone was happy. They wouldn't be if she was reduced to a joke.

Exactly, and they didn't have to be.

you're not allowed to do that to women characters these days. femenists are taking over.

so, it's all one sided where male characters get to be ditzes now. When before, both sexes got their fair share of idiots. From Shaggy to Daphne in the original scooby doo onward.

Yes, millenials, I just said something true you would deem negative. cry to someone who cares :)

I think you forgot that this show does have a ditzy, klutzy female character.

http://67.media.tumblr.com/c3f73b018...ut2ko1_400.gif

So I think that base is covered
https://33.media.tumblr.com/6af8718c...e0bno2_250.gif

I do get what you'er saying though. Possibly Irma could have fit the bill for female version of a comedically helpless character in an action show, if she didn't turn out to be Gilbert Gottfried in a robot suit that is.

Star Butterfly, Mabel Pines, and Leni Loud all say hi.
Also Daphne in the original Scooby Doo wasn't a Ditz

2k3 Hun was actually well versed in martial arts but I do see what you are saying.

You say that like it's a bad thing! :tlol:

Nick's Bishop is perfectly fine. I also think him being an Utrom on this version is a great twist and probably a homage to Utrom Shredder from 2k3. Mondo is a toy character and funny comic relief.

I don't see the problem.

Well my personally problem with the Nick Bishop is that they barely do anything with, he appears in 3 episodes and with Mondo he's pretty much useless in every scene he's in

I concur. I feel like I'm a minority who loved that twist, even if it ended up being poorly executed in the end (April trying to deal with her feelings around that).

I have a hope that Rook will take over that role, but it probably won't happen.

As for Mondo, I give an "eh". I'm not big on the skater/rocker idea, or at least being a caricature of one. Give him a little more to do and we'll talk, but for now, I don't really care.

He appears in episodes relevant to the Kraang/Utroms. He'll likely appear again when they go back to it.

Yeah like 3 episodes compare to the 2k3 Bishop who became a major player in season 3

No, that is actually chameleons and anoles. Geckos don't change color though many do have camoflage colration and markings.



This is true.

Yep.. you're right. forgot about her.

Not saying you HAVE to have one in the show. but based on the logic in the last post... most female characters these days don't DARE to be klutzy or stupid. they have tend to be more girl power y.

What does that have to do with anything? Nick's Bishop isn't an antagonist looking to capture mutants/aliens like 4kids, of course he's not going to be in tons of episodes. He's relevant to Kraang episodes, and I'm sure there will be more.