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CyberCubed 12-08-2016 02:33 AM

Fantastic historical video of how our calendar should be the year 12,000's
 


Instead of celebrating 2017 soon, we should be celebrating the year 12,017 this new years.

Its amazing how humans don't realize how long we've been on this planet and how the modern calendar condenses too much human history.

ToTheNines 12-08-2016 04:27 AM

Someone summarize it. I don't have time to watch it.

CylonsKlingonsDaleksOhMy 12-08-2016 07:54 AM

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Originally Posted by ToTheNines (Post 1644924)
Someone summarize it. I don't have time to watch it.

Cubed.

Summarized enough? :twink:

AT-Man 12-08-2016 09:40 AM

Yes, I agree.

TheSkeletonMan939 12-08-2016 09:53 AM

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Originally Posted by CyberCubed (Post 1644917)
Its amazing how humans don't realize how long we've been on this planet and how the modern calendar condenses too much human history.

'Cubed, have you ever heard of the 'B.C.' measurement?

CyberCubed 12-08-2016 12:34 PM

I think a lot of people are ignorant because of religion, but I don't want to get into that here. Modern humans have existed for at least 150,000 years, but we didn't start moving out of caveman times until about...15,000 years or so ago.

We may think we're only in the year 2000's....but we're really in the far future, the year 12,000's or even 100,000's depending on how you view it. It feels like we're in the future when you think of it like that.

CylonsKlingonsDaleksOhMy 12-08-2016 12:52 PM

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Originally Posted by CyberCubed (Post 1644994)
I think a lot of people are ignorant because of religion, but I don't want to get into that here. Modern humans have existed for at least 150,000 years, but we didn't start moving out of caveman times until about...15,000 years or so ago.

We may think we're only in the year 2000's....but we're really in the far future, the year 12,000's or even 100,000's depending on how you view it. It feels like we're in the future when you think of it like that.

Modern humans were not modern 150k years ago.

https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/modern

TheSkeletonMan939 12-08-2016 12:57 PM

CyberCubed thinks "modern" means 150,000 years ago.

O_O

CyberCubed 12-08-2016 01:02 PM

That is modern humans after we evolved from the common ancestor splintered from apes.

TheSkeletonMan939 12-08-2016 01:04 PM

That doesn't mean anything of value suddenly started happening. How long ago did humans learn to write? Like 10,000 years ago, if that?

CyberCubed 12-08-2016 01:12 PM

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Originally Posted by TheSkeletonMan939 (Post 1645004)
That doesn't mean anything of value suddenly started happening. How long ago did humans learn to write? Like 10,000 years ago, if that?

In that video they said the first temple was erected 12,000 years ago. Society had already begun around then, so let's say 15,000 years ago is when we stopped being cavemen and actually started farming and having culture.

plastroncafe 12-08-2016 01:19 PM

Cubed is teaching anthropology?
Oh this should be good.

Candy Kappa 12-08-2016 01:28 PM

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Originally Posted by CylonsKlingonsDaleksOhMy (Post 1644997)
Modern humans were not modern 150k years ago.

https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/modern

The Anatomical Modern Man (Homo Sapiens Sapiens) came to be around 200k years ago, though. I think that's Cubed refer to in that instance.

That said, I don't see a good reason to change the calendar. It's not the only one just the most used one and it's a nice number, plus BCE/EC works fine over BC/AD

TheSkeletonMan939 12-08-2016 01:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Candy Kappa (Post 1645015)
BCE/EC works fine over BC/AD

How? It's the exact same thing, except almost no one uses CE.

plastroncafe 12-08-2016 01:40 PM

BCE/CE were in common usage during my undergraduate studies of anthropology/archaeology.

The Gregorian Calendar might be the most widely used calendar, but it's not the only one.
Both Judaism and Islam have their own calendars.

And let's be honest....the Gregorian Calendar is hardly efficient. I mean...leap years. What the hell.
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Every year that is exactly divisible by four is a leap year, except for years that are exactly divisible by 100, but these centurial years are leap years if they are exactly divisible by 400. For example, the years 1700, 1800, and 1900 are not leap years, but the years 1600 and 2000 are.[6]
(also as a side note:
binomial nomenclature should only have the Genus name capitalized, species is lowercase...and it should be in italics.

Homo sapiens sapiens)

TheSkeletonMan939 12-08-2016 01:47 PM

If you're trying to scrub away references to Christianity in the calendar you might as well just follow Cubed's flawless idea. Because the "current era" still starts with the birth of Jesus.

CylonsKlingonsDaleksOhMy 12-08-2016 01:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Candy Kappa (Post 1645015)
The Anatomical Modern Man (Homo Sapiens Sapiens) came to be around 200k years ago, though. I think that's Cubed refer to in that instance.

That said, I don't see a good reason to change the calendar. It's not the only one just the most used one and it's a nice number, plus BCE/EC works fine over BC/AD

You're killing me, CK. You're defending Cubed!? When you could be on my side of an argument instead!!!??? :tlol:

Candy Kappa 12-08-2016 01:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TheSkeletonMan939 (Post 1645026)
If you're trying to scrub away references to Christianity in the calendar you might as well just follow Cubed's flawless idea. Because the "current era" still starts with the birth of Jesus.

Eeeeeh... Maybe. but, the calendar is wrong there as well, as the mythical Jesus was probably born sometime between 6-4 BC (he was born while Herod was still alive, and that guy died 4 BC)



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Originally Posted by CylonsKlingonsDaleksOhMy (Post 1645027)
You're killing me, CK. You're defending Cubed!? When you could be on my side of an argument instead!!!??? :tlol:

I feel bad.

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Originally Posted by plastroncafe (Post 1645024)
(also as a side note:
binomial nomenclature should only have the Genus name capitalized, species is lowercase...and it should be in italics.

Homo sapiens sapiens)

Now I feel worse, should had remembered that.

plastroncafe 12-08-2016 01:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TheSkeletonMan939 (Post 1645026)
If you're trying to scrub away references to Christianity in the calendar you might as well just follow Cubed's flawless idea. Because the "current era" still starts with the birth of Jesus.

Common, not Current.
I dunno...I prefer them, because AD translates to "year of our lord" and I'm not Christian.

Besides, this is what happens when religious folk force everyone into their habits: we make them our own.

Candy Kappa 12-08-2016 02:02 PM

Christians appropriated Yule, now we appropriate their calendar, we give and take, endless glorious circle of appropriating. :lol:

CyberCubed 12-08-2016 03:55 PM

Its just weird to me the entire world accepted a calendar where we're only in the 2,000's. Meanwhile the Jewish calendar is in the year 5,000 from what I read.

Meanwhile we're really in the year 12,000. Or even 100,000-200,000 if you count "Year 1" as when humans existed.

Prowler 12-08-2016 03:57 PM

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Originally Posted by ToTheNines (Post 1644924)
Someone summarize it. I don't have time to watch it.

:lol::lol::lol:

I remember that time Cubed said that.

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Originally Posted by CyberCubed (Post 1645066)
Its just weird to me the entire world accepted a calendar where we're only in the 2,000's. Meanwhile the Jewish calendar is in the year 5,000 from what I read.

Meanwhile we're really in the year 12,000. Or even 100,000-200,000 if you count "Year 1" as when humans existed.

So you're saying you don't accept Jesus Christ as your Lord and Saviour, HUH?

CylonsKlingonsDaleksOhMy 12-08-2016 04:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CyberCubed (Post 1645066)
Its just weird to me the entire world accepted a calendar where we're only in the 2,000's. Meanwhile the Jewish calendar is in the year 5,000 from what I read.

Meanwhile we're really in the year 12,000. Or even 100,000-200,000 if you count "Year 1" as when humans existed.

I think the Jewish calendar is actually on year 6000. But I could be wrong on that... I eat bacon, after all.

And do we really want to track the 5000 years of Neanderthal history where some hairy schmuck couldn't even figure out the wheel? Buncha stupid man-apes.

Prowler 12-08-2016 04:02 PM

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Originally Posted by CylonsKlingonsDaleksOhMy (Post 1645071)
I think the Jewish calendar is actually on year 6000. But I could be wrong on that... I eat bacon, after all.

And do we really want to track the 5000 years of Neanderthal history where some hairy schmuck couldn't even figure out the wheel? Buncha stupid man-apes.

I remember Calvin on a strip saying USA was founded on a b.C: year, which led his teacher to ask him "b.C?!" and him saying "before Calvin".

plastroncafe 12-08-2016 04:05 PM

The Hebrew calendar has this year listed as 5777, while the Hijiri/Islamic calendar is year 1438.

Or so says the internet.

When it comes to calendars, I've always been rather partial to this:
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"Current theories on the creation of the Universe state that, if it was created at all and didn't just start, as it were, unofficially, it came into being between ten and twenty thousand million years ago. By the same token the earth itself is generally supposed to be about four and a half thousand million years old.
These dates are incorrect.
Medieval Jewish scholars put the date of the Creation at 3760 B.C. Greek Orthodox theologians put Creation as far back as 5508 B.C.
These suggestions are also incorrect.
Archbishop James Usher (1580-1656) published Annales Veteris et Novi Testamenti in 1654, which suggested that the Heaven and the Earth were created in 4004 B.C. One of his aides took the calculation further, and was able to announce triumphantly that the Earth was created on Sunday the 21th of October, 4004 B.C., at exactly 9:00 A.M., because God liked to get work done early in the morning while he was feeling fresh.
This too was incorrect. By almost a quarter of an hour."

Prowler 12-08-2016 04:05 PM

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Originally Posted by plastroncafe (Post 1645074)
The Hebrew calendar has this year listed as 5777, while the Hijiri/Islamic calendar is year 1438.

Or so says the internet.

DO we have any Jews or Muslims in this forum? We must know this.

TheSkeletonMan939 12-08-2016 04:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Prowler (Post 1645073)
I remember Calvin on a strip saying USA was founded on a b.C: year, which led his teacher to ask him "b.C?!" and him saying "before Calvin".

:lol:

http://i.imgur.com/aCn2vPo.gif

CylonsKlingonsDaleksOhMy 12-08-2016 04:10 PM

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Originally Posted by TheSkeletonMan939 (Post 1645076)

Quote:

Originally Posted by Prowler (Post 1645073)
I remember Calvin on a strip saying USA was founded on a b.C: year, which led his teacher to ask him "b.C?!" and him saying "before Calvin".

Yes yes yes. You are both officially awarded the Cylons Ruby Star of Excellence for your knowledge and love of Calvin & Hobbes. Wear your badges proudly.

CyberCubed 12-08-2016 04:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Prowler (Post 1645075)
DO we have any Jews or Muslims in this forum? We must know this.

Yes, but it doesn't mean Jewish people know anything about the Jewish calendar if they don't practice the religion heavily.

Prowler 12-08-2016 04:14 PM

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Originally Posted by CyberCubed (Post 1645081)
Yes, but it doesn't mean Jewish people know anything about the Jewish calendar if they don't practice the religion heavily.

True, but they're statistically more likely to know about it than you and I do.

plastroncafe 12-08-2016 04:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CyberCubed (Post 1645081)
Yes, but it doesn't mean Jewish people know anything about the Jewish calendar if they don't practice the religion heavily.

One need not practice the religion to know what year it is.
One need only be culturally away.

Prowler 12-08-2016 04:20 PM

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Originally Posted by plastroncafe (Post 1645083)
One need not practice the religion to know what year it is.
One need only be culturally away.

Yeah CyrberCubed, you're a f*cking New Yorker. You must have Jewish friends and acquaintances, right? :lol:

CyberCubed 12-08-2016 04:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Prowler (Post 1645082)
True, but they're statistically more likely to know about it than you and I do.

I don't know anything about the Jewish calendar but I'm well aware what its like to be Jewish.

Prowler 12-08-2016 04:25 PM

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Originally Posted by CyberCubed (Post 1645085)
I don't know anything about the Jewish calendar but I'm well aware what its like to be Jewish.

Well, considering most Jews who lived in my country were pogrommed by the Inquisition and such hundreds of year ago, I don't know a single one. There's probably less than a thousand Jews in my entire country.

So, do most Jewish Americans not care much about their religion nowadays? Even less than Christian ones?

CyberCubed 12-08-2016 04:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Prowler (Post 1645069)
So you're saying you don't accept Jesus Christ as your Lord and Saviour, HUH?

Nope.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Prowler (Post 1645088)
So, do most Jewish Americans not care much about their religion nowadays? Even less than Christian ones?

There are a lot of religious Jews in New York, or rather Queens where I live. Many of them are also Russian.

Prowler 12-08-2016 04:29 PM

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Originally Posted by CyberCubed (Post 1645090)
Nope.



There are a lot of religious Jews in New York, or rather Queens where I live. Many of them are also Russian.

As in Orthodox Jews' The ones with the cool hats?

CyberCubed 12-08-2016 04:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Prowler (Post 1645091)
As in Orthodox Jews' The ones with the cool hats?

Yes, I see them go to temple every Saturday. There's also a lot of Jewish areas/temples around my area.

I mean I've never gone inside a Jewish temple since I was like..13, but what do I know.

Prowler 12-08-2016 04:35 PM

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Originally Posted by CyberCubed (Post 1645093)
Yes, I see them go to temple every Saturday. There's also a lot of Jewish areas/temples around my area.

I mean I've never gone inside a Jewish temple since I was like..13, but what do I know.

I visited a Synagogue once. I was a kid, so they let me keep my sports cap on, since you gotta cover your head inside one.

CyberCubed 12-08-2016 04:54 PM

I've worn a yamaka a few times, also had to wear it to weddings of some my distance relatives. I don't think I've worn one since I was a young teen. Its really weird to be part of a family that doesn't practice the religion heavily.

My family has never celebrated Christmas, but I do like the pretty lights.

Prowler 12-08-2016 04:57 PM

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Originally Posted by CyberCubed (Post 1645096)
I've worn a yamaka a few times, also had to wear it to weddings of some my distance relatives. I don't think I've worn one since I was a young teen. Its really weird to be part of a family that doesn't practice the religion heavily.

My family has never celebrated Christmas, but I do like the pretty lights.

So you're part Jewish, eh? Is it true what they say about you guys controlling everything? :tgrin:


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