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TigerClaw 12-09-2016 09:51 AM

War for the Planet of the Apes
 
They just released the 1st trailer for War for the Planet of the Apes, Can't wait for this one.


Coola Yagami 12-12-2016 12:23 AM

Same. I liked the modern take on how all of this started during our era.

TigerClaw 03-30-2017 01:46 PM

New trailer got released.


Cure 03-31-2017 02:27 AM

Yeeeeah buddy.

Andrew NDB 03-31-2017 02:33 AM

It's a weird thing. With the first two, I never felt an irresistible pull to go to the theater, but later on -- both times -- I watch them and I love the hell out of them.

ProphetofGanja 03-31-2017 06:24 AM

Yeah, this looks pretty compelling. And Woody Harrelson as the bad guy? Count me in

NinjaPug 06-19-2017 09:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Andrew NDB (Post 1672795)
It's a weird thing. With the first two, I never felt an irresistible pull to go to the theater, but later on -- both times -- I watch them and I love the hell out of them.

This is exactly me. I'll definitely be seeing this one in theaters.

Reactions from screenings have been extremely positive so far.

CyberCubed 06-19-2017 10:33 PM

I think that reaction would be fair given the 2001 Planet of the Apes reboot was rather mediocre. I was taken by surprised by this reboot too, I didn't expect it to be good.

ProphetofGanja 06-19-2017 10:43 PM

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Originally Posted by CyberCubed (Post 1691696)
I think that reaction would be fair given the 2001 Planet of the Apes reboot was rather mediocre. I was taken by surprised by this reboot too, I didn't expect it to be good.

The 2001 version of PotA should have been boiled down to an episode of The Twilight Zone or The Scary Door. It had an interesting twist but it did not warrant a feature-length film to set up the context.

CylonsKlingonsDaleksOhMy 06-24-2017 11:36 AM

Cubed and Andrew convinced me to give the reboot a try, and we LOVED "Rise of the Planet of the Apes." Great movie. That first time Caesar speaks was incredible.

"Dawn", not so much. Felt much more predictable and trope-driven.

CyberCubed 06-25-2017 03:13 PM

Planet of the Apes, much like Star Wars or Star Trek, is a "cultural phenomenon."

When something is a "cultural phenomenon" that means the vast majority who likes these types of movies tends to like it.

TigerClaw 07-11-2017 12:40 PM

The movie comes out this weekend and its got a 92% on Rotten Tomatoes, also this is the last film of the trilogy.
https://www.rottentomatoes.com/m/war...et_of_the_apes

Allio 07-11-2017 12:59 PM

Finally picked up the planet of the apes movies (all save for the remake.) watched the first and it was great. At least this will be a treat

Shark_Blade 07-13-2017 09:46 AM

Goodness gracious this movie is AMAZING!

So heartfelt, so emotional. I'm glad I checked this out. Andy Serkis totally delivered as Caesar. This movie better get an Oscar at least.

A 5/5 stars.

Shark_Blade 07-13-2017 11:42 PM

It's certified fresh at 94%

https://www.rottentomatoes.com/m/war..._WarPlanetApes

NinjaPug 07-14-2017 01:31 PM

This was pretty great. Thought they did a lot of cool stuff to connect it to the 68 movie too.

mrmaczaps 07-14-2017 02:47 PM

I must be the only one who piked the 2001 reboot... it wasn't perfect but it was also different enough to set it on its own.... and I wanted to see more of what happened in that world.

These new ones, the first was okay but the 2nd one I really didn't care for... hoping to see this next one and that its decent...

LeotheLateBloomer 07-16-2017 07:51 AM

Really well done movie with a lot of sad moments too. Really liked the little girl.

Faster and Cheaper 07-16-2017 07:58 AM

I enjoy these movies even if I personally can't stand Serkis. But I grew up on the old movies and enjoyed almost every ape movie sans 2001. Monkeys are fun :)

Shark_Blade 07-16-2017 12:14 PM

I actually love the 2001 reboot movie and the new trilogy (Rise, Dawn, War).

I did try watching the first old 1968 movie but it really didn't do it for me - outdated cinematography, cheesy script, unrealistic ape costumes, poor "hi-tech" space equipments (which look shoddy today), meh settings... a lot of suspension of belief in order for me to really enjoy it. I dunno, I feel like giving the original movie another go, maybe I'd change my mind.

mrmaczaps 07-16-2017 10:52 PM

The old movies are just that, OLD. The tech doesn't hold up and the graphics are bad... but watch it as if all that stuff really is high tech and even futureistic.... I bought the box set dvd collection a long time back... Just imagine sitting through all 6 or 8 movies.... lol

Shark_Blade 07-17-2017 12:21 AM

Yeah I plan to do just that. :D I feel this is a great series so I need to immerse into the old movies too.

Andrew NDB 07-17-2017 01:15 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mrmaczaps (Post 1698795)
The old movies are just that, OLD. The tech doesn't hold up and the graphics are bad... but watch it as if all that stuff really is high tech and even futureistic.... I bought the box set dvd collection a long time back... Just imagine sitting through all 6 or 8 movies.... lol

It's 5. 5 movies.

They actually really hold together fairly well, apart from #3 and #4.

mrmaczaps 07-17-2017 06:58 AM

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Originally Posted by Andrew NDB (Post 1698808)
It's 5. 5 movies.

They actually really hold together fairly well, apart from #3 and #4.

Is it really just five? The box seemed to be a whole lot bigger than five dvds... lol

The first 2 were okay... the last one set in present day with the Apes coming to the past was interesting even if it didn't do well to explain the story coherently...

Its been a while since I saw any of the sequels tho so maybe I'm remembering wrong...

sdp 07-17-2017 08:28 AM

I'm so glad these reboots are good, I'll need to watch them though I guess they'll make a fourth one so maybe I should wait until the whole reboot series is finished. I'm just glad a reboot was able to live up to the name of the original and do things better, all reboots should be able to do this if you think about it, they already know what worked and didn't.

But yeah the original films are worth a watch, look beyond the special effects which for the time were fine, I'm sure the effects in the reboot will age worse since CG doesn't particularly age nicely. Not all movies are great but there's some good stuff there, also the original is an all time classic.

The remake I only saw in theaters back in the day, I remember it being fine though it didn't leave me with the feeling that watching the originals did.

Andrew NDB 07-17-2017 11:07 AM

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Originally Posted by mrmaczaps (Post 1698831)
The first 2 were okay... the last one set in present day with the Apes coming to the past was interesting even if it didn't do well to explain the story coherently...

Yeah, it didn't explain anything. I appreciate the loop they created with Cornelius and Zira's baby is what created the sentient apes... but it doesn't really hold water. All of the cats and dogs die off from some mysterious disease, so apes become the new go-to pet? That wouldn't happen. And while it makes sense that Cornelius and Zira's baby would be sentient, zero explanation is offered as to how all of the other apes suddenly start being able to talk.

"Conquest of the Planet of the Apes" (basically, the film that "Rise of the Planet of the Apes" remade) is pretty lame.

1 and 2 are pretty cool, though. And ballsy. It's pretty rare to see movie #2 of a series completely destroy the planet.

myconius 07-17-2017 05:25 PM

War for the Planet of the Apes was everything i hoped it'd be.
excellent movie!

really want to (and need to) see it in the theatre again.
i'll never understand why people pay to see a movie, then sit and check their phones during the whole movie.

Shark_Blade 07-19-2017 03:50 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by myconius (Post 1698971)
War for the Planet of the Apes was everything i hoped it'd be.
excellent movie!

really want to (and need to) see it in the theatre again.
i'll never understand why people pay to see a movie, then sit and check their phones during the whole movie.

Omigosh a bitch next to me kept checking her phone too!

sdp 07-20-2017 11:27 AM

Maybe the wrong thread but I re-watched the Burton remake and it's a good movie, just not as good as the originals. I'm surprised by how good the effects are, I think they might be better than the reboots from the footage that I've seen.

I would need to re-watch the original films again but I don't think there's anything that would prevent it from it taking place in the original continuity.

TigerClaw 07-20-2017 12:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sdp (Post 1699792)
Maybe the wrong thread but I re-watched the Burton remake and it's a good movie, just not as good as the originals. I'm surprised by how good the effects are, I think they might be better than the reboots from the footage that I've seen.

I would need to re-watch the original films again but I don't think there's anything that would prevent it from it taking place in the original continuity.

I liked the Tim Burton version, that had some incredible MakeUp FX for the Apes, the designs were more in line with the original films.

CyberCubed 07-20-2017 12:58 PM

I thought the third movie was one of the best actually. Seeing Cornelius and his wife in the present day was fun as hell. The whole movie felt like a great comedy and then got surprisingly dark by the end since they're all killed off.

sdp 07-20-2017 01:09 PM

Apes 1: Wow!
Apes 2: just a rehash, at least the ending was cool.
Apes 3: wtf did this franchise become, oh wait sh-t got dark.
Apes 4: A bit of a let down but we got to see the war! Bonus point, it wasn't a prequel
Apes 5: yeah...umm no.
Apes Remake: Decent sidestory.

I really need to check out the reboot.

ranger_scout 07-21-2017 12:23 PM

In the past decades, the third films in a franchise are usually considered a disappointment or just simply the worst. This film, however, was epic. Andy Serkis really is the heart and soul of the series.

Spoiler:
What Caeser went through in the film reminds me of what happened with Wolverine in Logan this year. He lost what he considered to be the most important members of his family. After his enemies were defeated,
the individuals he was leading were free and had a chance in the future.
However, he lost his life at the very end when this happened. If we do get another film, it will be hard to imagine it without him, but that's how things work in movies.

Andrew NDB 07-21-2017 01:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sdp (Post 1699864)
Apes 1: Wow!
Apes 2: just a rehash, at least the ending was cool.
Apes 3: wtf did this franchise become, oh wait sh-t got dark.
Apes 4: A bit of a let down but we got to see the war! Bonus point, it wasn't a prequel
Apes 5: yeah...umm no.
Apes Remake: Decent sidestory.

I really need to check out the reboot.

Apes 1: Wow!
Apes 2: Even wowier! It's a bit of a mystery/retread until things get deeper into the mutant humans... and what an ending. Super shocking.
Apes 3: Enjoyable, and man... weird and different.
Apes 4: LAME! But it has its moments.
Apes 5: I wish they'd had a little more budget to make those battles pop, but it's a suitable direct lead-in to the first Apes movie.

Burton Apes: Not good, not bad, just is. Seems... unnecessary?

New Apes 1: Awesome!
New Apes 2: Just as awesome, but in a different post-apocalyptic way.
New Apes 3: Have not seen yet.

CyberCubed 08-01-2017 02:50 AM

Saw this today, it was very good. It's nice how convincing the main villain was, he wasn't a total psychopath and you could understand why he was doing what he was doing. It's amazing these movies make you care for the plight of apes as if they really exist when they don't. Of course all the parallel's to real life slavery throughout the years probably helps.

Lastly the way they came up with the idea that the disease is what stops humans from having the ability to speak and lose their intelligence like in the original movies was clever. It never made sense otherwise why humans would lose the ability to talk or think in the original films, it was just accepted. Now we have some logic behind it.

Andrew NDB 08-01-2017 03:17 AM

The original Apes movies implied the Apes surgically made their humans untalkable.

CyberCubed 08-01-2017 12:41 PM

Really? They all didn't have those scars like the one that astronaut had on his scalp after they lobotomized him or whatever they did to him.

I just assumed after thousands of years humans just lost the ability to talk because they were kept as slaves or in the fields and weren't allowed to teach their children anything.


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