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CyberCubed 12-26-2016 12:12 AM

Should I watch all the Die Hard movies?
 
Today was Christmas so I rewatched Die Hard. Its a great film, and I hadn't watched it in a good 10 years. It still holds up to this day and is also still relevant, with themes, humor and action that represent the modern world. Its hard to believe a movie that came out in 1988 is still reflective of today's society.

However I don't remember the sequels at all. I'm pretty sure I've seen Die Hard 2 and 3 at least once, but I don't remember anything about them. I've never seen the fourth or fifth. Should I watch them all? Any I should skip?

Krutch 12-26-2016 12:25 AM

Just watch the first three. After that... just watch the first three.

Powder 12-26-2016 01:25 AM

Haven't seen the most recent one but all the others are pretty good.

Shark_Blade 12-26-2016 06:59 AM

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Originally Posted by Krutch (Post 1648571)
Just watch the first three. After that... just watch the first three.

Ditto. You can just ignore the others...

Prowler 12-26-2016 07:01 AM

Haven't seen all of them. how many of them are there now? 5?

I liked the first one the best by far. Wasn't a big fan of the 3rd one and, the 2nd movie was a bit of a step down form the first movie as well. Then again it's been ages since I've seen those movies.

Candy Kappa 12-26-2016 07:04 AM

I've not heard a single good thing about A Good Day To Die Hard, the fifth movie. 1, 2 and 3 are great movies, the 4th one Live Free Or Die Hard isn't bad, if you like the first three you can get a chuckle out of the 4th.

Shark_Blade 12-26-2016 09:33 AM

The 4th one is too much CGI imo, nothing feels remotely dangerous. The 5th one (aka the worst) is just bad scriptwise and pacing.

plastroncafe 12-26-2016 09:46 AM

The first one is superior.

sdp 12-26-2016 10:42 AM

Never seen any of them, should I watch the first if I'm not a huge fan of action movies that don't have martial arts?

plastroncafe 12-26-2016 10:45 AM

I would say yes, but then I'm of the mind that the original Die Hard movie is the greatest American action movie ever made.

Followed closely by First Blood.

Both of which have had their resulting sequels progressively distance themselves from what made the originals great.

Prowler 12-26-2016 11:14 AM

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Originally Posted by plastroncafe (Post 1648623)
I would say yes, but then I'm of the mind that the original Die Hard movie is the greatest American action movie ever made.

Followed closely by First Blood.

Both of which have had their resulting sequels progressively distance themselves from what made the originals great.

What about the first two Terminator films? I've only seen the first one so far and I think it's pretty awesome.

Luke795 12-26-2016 11:48 AM

Is Die Hard similar to the Lethal Weapon Movies?

plastroncafe 12-26-2016 11:59 AM

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Originally Posted by Prowler (Post 1648630)
What about the first two Terminator films? I've only seen the first one so far and I think it's pretty awesome.

Third?
As much as I loved the second Terminator, it didn't hold a candle to the first.

Even wth jacked and super hot Linda Hamilton

CyberCubed 12-26-2016 12:29 PM

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Originally Posted by sdp (Post 1648622)
Never seen any of them, should I watch the first if I'm not a huge fan of action movies that don't have martial arts?

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Originally Posted by Luke795 (Post 1648634)
Is Die Hard similar to the Lethal Weapon Movies?

It's a typical 80's/90's action/comedy where Bruce Willis plays the hero and has to save the day from terrorists/bad guys and they shoot each other with machine guns all movie.

Basically the same role Arnold Scwharzeneggar played all the time in movies back then. So if you like big American 80's/90's action movie heroes that plays out like an NES videogame, its for you.

AT-Man 12-26-2016 01:05 PM

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Originally Posted by CyberCubed (Post 1648641)
It's a typical 80's/90's action/comedy where Bruce Willis plays the hero and has to save the day from terrorists/bad guys and they shoot each other with machine guns all movie.

Basically the same role Arnold Scwharzeneggar played all the time in movies back then. So if you like big American 80's/90's action movie heroes that plays out like an NES videogame, its for you.

Now, this is DEAD WRONG. John McClane feels like a normal human being, and the action is earned, not gratuitous.

edit: it's true for 4 and 5, though, but those are crap.

CyberCubed 12-26-2016 01:46 PM

I just watched the first one yesterday and John cracks jokes and talks to the villains like he's some sort of superhero. Making fun of them and saying things like "I have a machine gun now! Ho ho ho!" on the dead guys shirt that he sends down to them in the elevator.

Then he's jumping all over the place with explosions right behind him and catapaulting from the outside of the building and smashing through the windows. Its definitely not grounded in reality, but that's fine, he's an action superstar.

plastroncafe 12-26-2016 05:38 PM

Die Hard isn't like every other 80 - 90s action movie, they're all like Die Hard.

CyberCubed 12-26-2016 05:43 PM

Die Hard came out in 1988, there had already been about 8 years of action movies in the 80's prior to it.

joe-eyeball 12-26-2016 06:01 PM

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Originally Posted by plastroncafe (Post 1648699)
Die Hard isn't like every other 80 - 90s action movie, they're all like Die Hard.


I sort of agree with this! In no particular order the best action films of the 80's are: Aliens, First Blood, Die Hard, Predator, and The Terminator. I should probably add Raiders of the lost Ark

CyberCubed 12-26-2016 07:21 PM

Its kind of funny because the plot of Die Hard would not work if it took place in today's modern year simply because cell phones exist. Back in 1988 they could cut the phone lines in the building and nobody could contact the outside world. If you did that anytime post 1999, everyone would have a cell phone in their pocket.

CyberCubed 12-26-2016 11:15 PM

So I just finished Die Hard 2. I nearly liked it more than the first. I loved the whole final sequence fighting on the wing on the plane. Would a whole plane really blow up like that with lighter fluid though?

I'm also surprised the black general was a bad guy, that was a plot twist I didn't see coming.

sdp 12-26-2016 11:43 PM

When I said I didn't like action movies I meant like gun toting action movies, some of the examples mentioned I do like since they are sci-fi or other genres as well. I think I owe it to myself to watch Die Hard, maybe for next Christmas :lol:

I'm trying to watch various "classics" I never did watch since they were older than when I grew up and when I did they weren't "mature" enough. I recently watched a few Van Damme movies and they're alright, the year before I watched all the Rocky movies etc. There's so many on my list though like Robocop, Mad Max etc.

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Originally Posted by CyberCubed (Post 1648713)
Its kind of funny because the plot of Die Hard would not work if it took place in today's modern year simply because cell phones exist. Back in 1988 they could cut the phone lines in the building and nobody could contact the outside world. If you did that anytime post 1999, everyone would have a cell phone in their pocket.

Many movies just don't work because of cellphones and I never realized how much it affected suspension of disbelief until I saw Stranger Things. That show is set in the 80s so when you see the phone is not working you know they are f-cked. I don't know why we don't see more movies set in the mid-90s or before when it comes to horror, thrillers etc. Those movies don't need to be set in the present time and they can have a lot more suspense if you know its happening at a time when there is no easy way to contact people. You don't see westerns trying to be set in modern time (well I guess it worked for Firefly ;) ) some genres just need to work in the time they work best at.

Hell even Star Wars and other sci-fi shows become a bit weird when they don't have technology like the internet which would solve many problems.

CyberCubed 12-26-2016 11:51 PM

in Die Hard 2 there was a scene where everyone was running to the phones in the airport booth and John couldn't make a call because all the phones were taken. :lol:

There's also a scene where John uses a fax machine for the first time, and he goes, "Well my wife told me to embrace the 90's." Haha.

plastroncafe 12-27-2016 09:12 AM

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Originally Posted by sdp (Post 1648745)
Hell even Star Wars and other sci-fi shows become a bit weird when they don't have technology like the internet which would solve many problems.

Star Wars at the benefit of being created, and set, before the internet was invented. And then there's Battlestar Galactica which went out of their way to explain why their Flagship was a technological throwback.

I'm sure there would be a way to remake the original Die Hard where cell phones and the internet where disabled. They had a hacker on their heist team. Telephones in an office building like that have a computer component to them, and can be hacked. And there are cell phone dampening devices.

Don't worry, in "tomorrow's world of the future that hasn't happened yet land" something like this would be addressed.

Andrew NDB 12-27-2016 11:11 AM

The next one's shooting soon. Die Hard: Year One. Not kidding.

plastroncafe 12-27-2016 11:46 AM

Based on the comic?
Because that might be interesting.

Andrew NDB 12-27-2016 12:15 PM

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Originally Posted by plastroncafe (Post 1648818)
Based on the comic?
Because that might be interesting.

Doesn't sound like it, though it might be a loose inspiration. It sounds like it'll be 50/50 Old McClane in present and Young McClane in the 70s.

http://collider.com/die-hard-year-on...e-len-wiseman/

Personally, I liked that "Die Hardest" pitch with McClane being flown to Japan to be honored for the 30th anniversary of defending the Nakatomi tower when crap goes wrong, co-starring Sam Jackson again.

Prowler 12-27-2016 12:58 PM

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Originally Posted by CyberCubed (Post 1648713)
Its kind of funny because the plot of Die Hard would not work if it took place in today's modern year simply because cell phones exist. Back in 1988 they could cut the phone lines in the building and nobody could contact the outside world. If you did that anytime post 1999, everyone would have a cell phone in their pocket.

My cellphone broke last summer. There was an occasion or two I had to meet up with a couple of people and that didn't go well and I had to go back home... because I didn't have any mean to contact them/know where they are.

CyberCubed 12-27-2016 01:37 PM

There's so many old 80's and 90's movies I have to catch up on. I've seen some of them here and there but I've never sat down to watch them all properly. I was literally 3 years old when some of these movies came out, so its not surprising I missed them all.

Prowler 12-27-2016 01:38 PM

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Originally Posted by CyberCubed (Post 1648869)
There's so many old 80's and 90's movies I have to catch up on. I've seen some of them here and there but I've never sat down to watch them all properly. I was literally 3 years old when some of these movies came out, so its not surprising I missed them all.

Cinema is where I've been missing the highest number of classics. I didn't get to watch The Godfather and the first ever Terminator film until last year or so. I'm yet to watch their sequels.

CyberCubed 12-27-2016 09:55 PM

Die Hard 3 had a Donald Trump and Hilary Clinton name drop. In the same movie. From 1995.

What were the odds?

CyberCubed 12-28-2016 11:01 PM

Just finished Die Hard 4. It was pretty decent as well, although the whole hacker kid sidekick got a bit old during the movie. The villains were also kind of ridiculous especially given how young looking they were. But it had some good action scenes and kept me entertained.

McClane's daughter is also hot. I realize this movie is from 2007 so she's a decade older now, but damn.


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