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LeotheLateBloomer 01-21-2017 01:24 PM

Tom and Jerry
 
This next to TMNT, is one of my favorite cartoons to watch as a kid and to this day, I still love watching them. I loved the classics (Gene Deitch, to an extent) the 70s The New Tom and Jerry Show as a guilty pleasure, T&J Comedy Show, Kids, Tales, and the 2014 cartoon. I also liked some of the movies (even The original).

What was your memory with Tom and Jerry? Do you like any of the movies or the current 2014 animated cartoon? Who do you like more Tom or Jerry?

Always preferred Tom!

CyberCubed 01-21-2017 01:25 PM

All the classic Tom and Jerry's that Cartoon Network used to rerun back in the 90's. I also like Tom and Jerry kids. Never seen the newest incarnation.

LeotheLateBloomer 01-21-2017 01:41 PM

The 2014 show is flash animated but it's actually pretty entertaining. It's not amazing but it recaptures the old spirit of the originals while adding it's own charm to it. I like how it brings back plenty of characters from the classics even ones like Duckling and Meathead (from Sufferin' Cats). Mammy Two Shoes was the only one that didn't return. She reappeared in T&J Tales but she was changed from black to white.

Wesley 01-21-2017 01:42 PM

I haven't watched Tom and Jerry in years, but I liked watching the old ones that were rerun on rte two and on vhs when I was younger. I'm surprised that that so many episodes have been made over the decades. I preferred Tom as well, as I prefer underdog characters.

The episode that stood out for me was Blue Cat Blues. That was a dark ep for a kids cartoon.

FredWolfLeonardo 01-21-2017 01:49 PM

I love Tom and Jerry to death, especially the classic episodes by the original creators. Enjoyed the new series such as Tom and Jerry tales as well and I think the 2014 series is very well done.

Not interested in the movies except for the first one where Tom and jerry talk. I think its one of those movies that's so bad its amazing. I cannot stop laughing everytime I watch Nostalgia Critics review of it.

drgon78 01-21-2017 02:02 PM

My favorite episode is when ether Tom or Spike must catch Jerry, the one that fails gets kicked out of the house.

LeotheLateBloomer 01-21-2017 02:07 PM

@drgon78: Pet Peeve was a good one.

No gonna lie, in the original movie where Aunt Figg wakes up to discover that they escaped, I thought she said that she has to call the butler "Lickpoot" instead of Lickboot. :o: lol: Don't judge, it's just what I thought I heard.

I always saw Jerry as a jerk! Love the episodes where Tom does win over him.

drgon78 01-21-2017 02:10 PM

I also like the musketeer style episodes with the little grey mouse. One where Jerry is writing love letters and another where they are stealing food.

ssjup81 01-21-2017 02:28 PM

Loved Tom & Jerry growing up, even the 70s version where Jerry wore the bow tie. As for the Tom and Jerry Kids show...I didn't care for it.

As an adult, seems I prefer the 40s/50s era for them and lack the patience to watch the mediocre attempts (imo) made after this. Occasionally I may have come across some I liked, like the one where Jerry was sleepwalking (Chuck Jones era), for example, but it still can't top the earlier shorts for me.

CyberCubed 01-21-2017 02:40 PM

What were the ones where that French mouse started showing up? He was like the Scrappy Doo of Tom and Jerry.

ssjup81 01-21-2017 02:46 PM

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Originally Posted by CyberCubed (Post 1654830)
What were the ones where that French mouse started showing up? He was like the Scrappy Doo of Tom and Jerry.

It depends on the short. The ones that took place in France, as a Muskateer along with Jerry, he had a French accent. The one focusing around Robin Hood, he had like cockney type accent. In the normal ones, like Tom and Jerry, he didn't speak at all. Thinking about it, he wasn't in many shorts.

Anyway, seems he popped up in the 50s.

TheSkeletonMan939 01-21-2017 03:13 PM

Nibbles (I think that's the small grey mouse's name) had a relatively strong presence in 'Tom and Jerry Tales'.

Prowler 01-21-2017 04:06 PM

I liked Tom & Jerry back in the 90s when I was a kid.

As I grew older, I realised that Jerry was a dick and that in a lot of episodes Tom was the one getting bullied.

I prefer Looney Tunes, personally.

Jephael 01-21-2017 04:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Prowler (Post 1654849)
As I grew older, I realised that Jerry was a dick and that in a lot of episodes Tom was the one getting bullied.

Hence where Simpsons got the inspiration for these two nut balls!!!


TurtleTitan97 01-21-2017 05:02 PM

The older Tom & Jerry cartoons were great. It's just a shame they had to tone down the violence as time went on.

LeotheLateBloomer 01-21-2017 06:04 PM

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Originally Posted by TheSkeletonMan939 (Post 1654839)
Nibbles (I think that's the small grey mouse's name) had a relatively strong presence in 'Tom and Jerry Tales'.

He's called Nibbles in the earlier shorts whereas now, he's known as Tuffy. The video games, Kids, and most other versions call him Tuffy. The Magic Ring is where they called him Nibbles again. He didn't start speaking til the Mouseketeer shorts and Robin Hoodwinked. In modern day works, he can speak in non-Mouseketeer shorts. He has a bigger presence in the new cartoon.

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Originally Posted by CyberCubed (Post 1654830)
What were the ones where that French mouse started showing up? He was like the Scrappy Doo of Tom and Jerry.

I don't think Tuffy is anywhere near as obnoxious as Scrappy. Especially in the ones where he doesn't speak.

Coola Yagami 01-21-2017 06:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Prowler (Post 1654849)
I liked Tom & Jerry back in the 90s when I was a kid.

As I grew older, I realised that Jerry was a dick and that in a lot of episodes Tom was the one getting bullied.

I prefer Looney Tunes, personally.

I agree. Now I understand the ones where Tom was abusing Jerry and he got his comeuppance, but there times where Tom just wanted to eat or take a nap and Jerry would be the one starting crap, and of course Tom would retaliate, but Jerry would win in the end with triumphant cheerful music playing as Tom gets punished... when Jerry was the ones that started the whole thing. I loved the one where they'd either both lose, or Tom would actually win.

I also remember the dark one during the French fencing era, where Tom was executed for failing to catch Jerry and Nibbles. Ouch. Farewell Mosier Pussycat indeed...

Hell, when you think about it... while most times Tom would go after Jerry on his own accord, there were plenty of times he didn't really care, but was told to get him by his owner, and then he get punished when he failed to get rid of him. Most of the times he was getting into trouble because his owners would make him do stuff.

Also hated the modern movies and whatnot that would Tom into some kind of idiot for comedy relief. Jerry would always be the one that knows the right or smart thing to do, and Tom would be the one to fumble, bungle and screw things up. Or he'd do something the wrong way so that Jerry would do things the right way. At least the theatrical Tom and Jerry movie kept that to a minimum, even though they made them talk.

Prowler 01-21-2017 06:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Coola Yagami (Post 1654902)
I agree. Now I understand the ones where Tom was abusing Jerry and he got his comeuppance, but there times where Tom just wanted to eat or take a nap and Jerry would be the one starting crap, and of course Tom would retaliate, but Jerry would win in the end with triumphant cheerful music playing as Tom gets punished... when Jerry was the ones that started the whole thing. I loved the one where they'd either both lose, or Tom would actually win.

I also remember the dark one during the French fencing era, where Tom was executed for failing to catch Jerry and Nibbles. Ouch. Farewell Mosier Pussycat indeed...

Hell, when you think about it... while most times Tom would go after Jerry on his own accord, there were plenty of times he didn't really care, but was told to get him by his owner, and then he get punished when he failed to get rid of him. Most of the times he was getting into trouble because his owners would make him do stuff.

Also hated the modern movies and whatnot that would Tom into some kind of idiot for comedy relief. Jerry would always be the one that knows the right or smart thing to do, and Tom would be the one to fumble, bungle and screw things up. Or he'd do something the wrong way so that Jerry would do things the right way. At least the theatrical Tom and Jerry movie kept that to a minimum, even though they made them talk.

Oh that movie? It came out in... 1999? 2000? Yeah Tom and Jerry talking was odd. But hey i was a kid so I liked the movie.

CyberCubed 01-21-2017 06:38 PM

Its a shame the young kids of today don't know about classic cartoons like this. I don't know what trash they're growing up with today.

Prowler 01-21-2017 06:39 PM

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Originally Posted by CyberCubed (Post 1654912)
Its a shame the young kids of today don't know about classic cartoons like this. I don't know what trash they're growing up with today.

Id unno do CN and Boomerang still air Hanna-Barbera classics and Looney Tunes shorts like they did in the 90s?

Coola Yagami 01-21-2017 07:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Prowler (Post 1654914)
Id unno do CN and Boomerang still air Hanna-Barbera classics and Looney Tunes shorts like they did in the 90s?

I'm pretty sure they still do... but what kid watches Boomerang? Not when they have CN and Nick.

Coola Yagami 01-21-2017 07:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Prowler (Post 1654911)
Oh that movie? It came out in... 1999? 2000? Yeah Tom and Jerry talking was odd. But hey i was a kid so I liked the movie.

Yeah, the 1999 or so movie still didn't treat Tom like a complete tool, but the ones after that, like where they meet Merlin or go to space and other junk like that always makes Tom into an idiot, whenever he's not chasing Jerry of course.

Prowler 01-21-2017 07:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Coola Yagami (Post 1654923)
I'm pretty sure they still do... but what kid watches Boomerang? Not when they have CN and Nick.

No idea, man. I haven't watched CN in over a decade. What is boomerang like nowadays?

Coola Yagami 01-21-2017 07:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Prowler (Post 1654925)
No idea, man. I haven't watched CN in over a decade. What is boomerang like nowadays?

IDK. Haven't really seen it in years, but last I heard they were adding the original Powerpuff Girls to the line up, so I guess, now several years later, it must have a slightly more modern line up while still keeping all the old HB stuff?

LeotheLateBloomer 01-21-2017 08:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Coola Yagami (Post 1654902)
I agree. Now I understand the ones where Tom was abusing Jerry and he got his comeuppance, but there times where Tom just wanted to eat or take a nap and Jerry would be the one starting crap, and of course Tom would retaliate, but Jerry would win in the end with triumphant cheerful music playing as Tom gets punished... when Jerry was the ones that started the whole thing. I loved the one where they'd either both lose, or Tom would actually win.

I also remember the dark one during the French fencing era, where Tom was executed for failing to catch Jerry and Nibbles. Ouch. Farewell Mosier Pussycat indeed...

Hell, when you think about it... while most times Tom would go after Jerry on his own accord, there were plenty of times he didn't really care, but was told to get him by his owner, and then he get punished when he failed to get rid of him. Most of the times he was getting into trouble because his owners would make him do stuff.

Also hated the modern movies and whatnot that would Tom into some kind of idiot for comedy relief. Jerry would always be the one that knows the right or smart thing to do, and Tom would be the one to fumble, bungle and screw things up. Or he'd do something the wrong way so that Jerry would do things the right way. At least the theatrical Tom and Jerry movie kept that to a minimum, even though they made them talk.

Yes, The Two Mouseketeers is the one where Tom gets executed at the end of the episode and I despise that short with a passion.

Perhaps my favorite episode is Little School Mouse which is a role reversal short of Professor Tom where Jerry teaches Tuffy how to outsmart a cat which Tuffy manages to successfully do it the right way whereas Jerry's way resulted in him getting thrashed. That was an episode where Tom won at the end.:D

Wildcat 01-21-2017 10:40 PM

Tom never really dies. He supposedly gets the guillotine in 2 Mouseketeers but I mean come on...pretty much everything that happens to him would realistically kill him. I know it's portrayed sorta seriously but it's just a joke.

I like all the versions. I haven't seen all the movies though. Not even the first. The latest would probably be my least favorite. Not because of the flash animation. I just felt they kinda dragged on at times. Some are good.

TheBlueTurtle1 01-22-2017 03:54 AM

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Originally Posted by CyberCubed (Post 1654912)
Its a shame the young kids of today don't know about classic cartoons like this. I don't know what trash they're growing up with today.

LOL true, the older Tom and Jerry are still very watchable today, much like Disney's older cartoons and their Silly syphonies.

Mayhem 01-22-2017 05:18 AM

Due to the censorship and cuts down the ages, and for when they were rebroadcast on CN (they redubbed the African houselady to make her less Southern sounding), I actually have a fairly old set of Tom & Jerry DVDs from China, that has pretty much 99% of everything HB put out. I think there's one cut, but that's it. Can run back to those if I fancy a laugh heh.

The BBC used to frequently put on the odd T&J cartoon when they had a random five minutes to fill back in the 80s and 90s, but since CN starting showing them coupled with likely a reduction in cartoon violence on mainstream TV and better scheduling, they started disappearing from screens in the mid 90s.

sdp 05-23-2021 02:08 AM

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Originally Posted by TheBlueTurtle1 (Post 1654996)
LOL true, the older Tom and Jerry are still very watchable today, much like Disney's older cartoons and their Silly syphonies.

People say this but when I was a kid in the 90s, watching classic Tom and Jerry/Looney Tunes etc all felt like ancient cartoons without much to laugh at. I preferred them over 80s shows but that's because 80s cartoons were boring and formulaic as hell. I don't think that they're all that watchable to kids.

ZariusTwo 05-23-2021 04:22 AM

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Originally Posted by sdp (Post 1893106)
that's because 80s cartoons were boring and formulaic as hell


Original TMNT Cartoon Fan 05-23-2021 04:47 AM

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Originally Posted by Jephael (Post 1654862)
Hence where Simpsons got the inspiration for these two nut balls!!!

And TMNT had "Cheezy and Sleazy" in Rondo in New York.

Leo656 05-23-2021 05:08 AM

I've heard nothing but awful things about that new movie that came out, but Chloe Moretz is in it so I might have to watch it at some point.

Sumac 05-23-2021 05:25 AM

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Originally Posted by sdp (Post 1893106)
People say this but when I was a kid in the 90s, watching classic Tom and Jerry/Looney Tunes etc all felt like ancient cartoons without much to laugh at. I preferred them over 80s shows but that's because 80s cartoons were boring and formulaic as hell. I don't think that they're all that watchable to kids.

You must have problems with sense of humor if you find old Looney Tunes and Tom & Jerry not funny.
Also, despite being formulaic 80s show were pretty good. Not all of them, but still.

superstaff 05-23-2021 08:06 AM

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Originally Posted by Prowler (Post 1654925)
No idea, man. I haven't watched CN in over a decade. What is boomerang like nowadays?

Boomerang is mostly reruns of Tom & Jerry, Scooby Doo (various shows, old and new), and Looney Tunes. They also show some Cartoon Cartoons, though after midnight. It's a very boring schedule.

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Originally Posted by Sumac (Post 1893120)
You must have problems with sense of humor if you find old Looney Tunes and Tom & Jerry not funny.
Also, despite being formulaic 80s show were pretty good. Not all of them, but still.

I guess I have problems with my sense of humor too. I appreciate what Tom & Jerry and Looney Tunes did to pioneer many things in animation. However, anytime I try to sit down and watch them again, I get bored really quickly. MeTV airs them every day, and I tried to re-watch some of them, and again, I got a little fed up after three or so shorts, and changed the channel. I don't hate them, though.

As for the 80s, I think the 80s is when cartoons began to experiment and dabble in storytelling, so I really appreciate them for that. I tend to have more of a tolerance for 80s shows than I do for anything pre-80s. I was born near the end of the 80s so I kind of-sort of grew up on those, but I was more of a 90s kids.

LeotheLateBloomer 05-23-2021 09:23 AM

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Originally Posted by Leo656 (Post 1893119)
I've heard nothing but awful things about that new movie that came out, but Chloe Moretz is in it so I might have to watch it at some point.

I don't know if I'd call it bad but the Tom and Jerry scenes are the best parts of the film. The humans though, you either tolerate them or you don't. It's pretty much a meh movie.

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Originally Posted by Sumac (Post 1893120)
You must have problems with sense of humor if you find old Looney Tunes and Tom & Jerry not funny.
Also, despite being formulaic 80s show were pretty good. Not all of them, but still.

I can't tell if it's his personal preference or just him sh*tposting.

Anarchistguy 05-23-2021 02:19 PM

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Originally Posted by sdp (Post 1893106)
I preferred them over 80s shows but that's because 80s cartoons were boring and formulaic as hell.

So to you, Garfield and Friends and The Real Ghostbusters were boring as hell??

IMJ 05-23-2021 03:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Anarchistguy (Post 1893154)
So to you, Garfield and Friends and The Real Ghostbusters were boring as hell??

Remember Heathcliff? That was a great show.... the opening song was awesome lmfao

Leo656 05-24-2021 12:58 AM

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Originally Posted by LeotheLateBloomer (Post 1893127)
I don't know if I'd call it bad but the Tom and Jerry scenes are the best parts of the film. The humans though, you either tolerate them or you don't.

Man, I would "tolerate" Chloe Moretz SO f*cking hard. :lol:

LeotheLateBloomer 05-24-2021 09:29 AM

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Originally Posted by Leo656 (Post 1893199)
Man, I would "tolerate" Chloe Moretz SO f*cking hard. :lol:

Well now that she's older, she could be eye candy for more roles. Personally I prefer Hailee Steinfield and Becky G but I cannot ignore how stunning Moretz looks in a uniform. Actually since you'll see a majority of her in this movie, maybe you will enjoy it!:lol: Just get past some of her dialogue and call it good!

Anarchistguy 05-24-2021 01:27 PM

Eh..

I'll take this movie over the talking Tom and Jerry from that god awful 1992 movie anyday. At least they actually FEEL like Tom and Jerry in this movie


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