Official Episode Discussion S4 Ep 23: Tokka vs The World
 

TMNT returns and in English too :P


The episode is up on ITunes.

It's about d*mn time. I'm so excited for this!

Also for those of you who saw the following Season 4 eps, please don't spoil anything in this thread in what happens in the next 3 episodes. Many of us did not watch the Korean episodes and don't wish to be spoiled.

People will be banned if they intentionally post spoilers from the other Season 4 eps in this thread.

I don't think anyone should be banned. People enter these discussions at own risk. It would've been worse with films, but when the 2014 and 2016 films were new, I made sure not entering those discussions until I'd seen them (which I did as quick as possible).

But when it comes to this, it's better to take out all frustration on producers instead for first airing in South Korea.

Awww such a cute, light tone episode with happy feels, needed this as the the last 2 episodes are pretty dark. Tale of Tiger Claw is more of a serious tone episode but not as dark as Requiem and Owari.

Chompy is so cute.

Hope we see more of that new character General Griffin in season 5.

Poor Mikey seemed to get a lot of torture in this episode, he got punched by Raph and then nearly dissected/liversected.

Casey was awesome in this episode, he had a **** first half of season 4 but he's now a lot better in the 2nd half of season 4.

Good explanation on why April wasn't in this episode, she's still recovering from the previous episode, which was months ago :lol:

Strong return.

Sucks I can't use iTunes. No credit card. I have iTunes points, but can't use them, apparently, for this type of purchase. -_-

Raph was awesome in this episode. ^_^

I can't wait for the last few episodes, by what everyones saying who have seen the korean eps, they're going to be really dark and I love it when Nick does those kind of eps, they're always really good.

Quoting to reiterate.

Feels good to be back! So far so good for this episode.

Wow. That was a blast. There wasn't much to dislike about this episode, I mean there were some things it could've done better (like I feel the Chompy Tokka scene at the end could've been wordless), but for the most part it was a pretty great episode :thumbsup:

It is about time we got more Bishop, and he was great in this episode. Looks like we're finally get Tiger Claw's back story, so it looks like this part of the season is going to be "everything we had to throw aside for the Space stuff and the useless Karai stuff."

In that case I'm waiting for Mutagen Man /s

Both action packed and emotional. I... liked this episode? :o

All seriousness, only issue I can think of is Griffin. He wasn't there too much for me. Also, anyone know his voice actor?

Otherwise, this was the best Raphael episode since Slash and Destroy (I've been rethinking on Dinosaurs Seen in Sewers! personally). See writers of the Mona episodes, this is how to make Raph soft without making him irritating.

Give it between a 7.5 and an 8, this was one of the best episodes by far this season.

I'm a traditionalist with regards to viewing, so its nice to see new episodes return! A good invasion theme for Tokka's arrival, and good to see that human vs. human fights can still work (Griffin is just another mad scientist-type character otherwise), and having Casey/Michelangelo free themselves before being recaptured shortly after was also a nice unexpected move. A very cute ending to the episode as well with Tokka's pet son as well.

Chompy has been so cute during all the episode. And it was interesting to know more about the alliance between Earth's military and Utrom.
Btw, my favourite line of the episode:

Raphael: We should steal a Kraang ship fast! But, which ship should we use?
Donatello: Dont worry guys, everything is under control … *getting serious* :
~Eenie meenie miney mo, catch a Tiger Claw by the toe!~ THAT ONE!

Leo/Raph/Probably the whole fandom:
https://68.media.tumblr.com/51226c35...rbtpg9_540.png

Donnie:
https://68.media.tumblr.com/9ab48fa1...rbtpg9_540.png

Yes, a great Raph episode indeed. Very touching.

I'm loving all the jabs at Bayturtles lol.

Interesting that Bishop is not hiding his identity. Did he come to Earth after "War for Dimension X"? Or has he been heading the EPF since before season 2?

And now that Chompy is staying on Earth, I don't care how contrived and silly it is, but I NEED him to get mutated in season 5 and have some sort of misadventure with Bradford. The current disconnect between Tokka and Rahzar is killing me lol.

Not bad, while I don't really like how the EPF was handled in this episode(seriously an organization that has links with the federal government and this is what we're getting). I'm glad that we did get a Raph episode thats not centered on his anger problems or his bug issues.

6/10

I really liked this episode a lot. Raph's bond with Chompy was sweet and I like how Tokka decided to let her baby stay with Raph. Also loved seeing Bishop and I did like Griffin as a bad guy though I'd love to see more of him in future episodes if possible. Casey really was good in this episode and I liked how he did have two good ideas. Overall, a very decent way to come back from a hiatus.

Pretty good episode. Everyone ended up happy in the end.

I laughed when he said TMNT returns in United States, so he knew about the episodes airing in South Korea :lol:

Google Play has it too. I used my $1.99 worth Play Rewards to buy it.

Last three episodes actually.

Me too. That could potentially be the cause of the world finding out that the Ninja Turtles exist.

I think that elevator scene was a reference to how we viewed Michael Bay's first TMNT movie. And maybe being nearly dissected/liversected was supposed to be a mythology gag to the 2003 series.

I don't consider Tale of Tiger Claw a dark episode, yes it has a 'What the ****' moment but that's it. Requiem and Owari are more darker than Tale of Tiger Claw.

Yeah this was a great episode. Nick's Bishop is great, I love how he works with the EPF but he's an Utrom in this version, but he's still true to the character in trying to protect the Earth from alien invasion. His fight scenes were also great and how the last guy pretended to be knocked out.

The jab at the Bay turtles in the elevator scene was hilarious. Goddamn, the Nick writers hate the movies as we do. :lol:

Also like how it tied back into the space arc from the beginning of the season with Tokka. Which really goes to put into perspective people complaining about "dropped plotlines" need to shut up, the writers will likely go back to everything eventually.

That was a fun episode and it was interesting to watch the English version. I couldn't resist watching the Korean version weeks ago and it was fun seeing the different perspective, although generally my first guess from the Korean episode was the same.

Donatello is still a jerk to Casey though, he really needs to get over it.

Loved the scenes with Mikey and Casey. I enjoy seeing them interact together, they make a fun duo.

Minor thing I noticed about the intro: Why is Spike not replaced with Chompy in the "Raphael" segment of the theme song? They make minor changes of costume and things elsewhere...why not swap out Raph's pet?

I've been thinking the same thing ever since City at War.

I mean, really it's been weird ever since Slash and Destroy. But especially so now.

I've also been perplexed by this, but at the same time I feel like they keep Spike in just as a reminder of how far these characters have all come since the beginning of the series. Though they haven't matured that much, there is a slight bit of character growth noticed, especially when you go back to the series premiere.

General Griffin was a nice parody of every military general in every alien invasion movie ever made.

Has this aired on television yet?

Only in Korean.

Waiting for a place to watch this one. Only just found out about it thanks to my usual source: Black Nerd Comedy. :lol:

Both Mikey and Splinter had the exact same idea I had about when Chompy would become gigantic and Raph couldn't keep him when that time came, but it's true that really won't be for a very, very long time. I'm glad that Raph got to keep Chompy because his friendship with him is sweet. I thought we were going to get a repeat of the fun elevator scene from the 2014 film when Mikey started beat-boxing in today's episode, but Raph didn't want to hear it.

Oh, the way everyone is talking it aired on Nickelodeon and I missed it. I alreadu seen rhe last two in Korea. I just wanted to catch the two ahead of them in English.

Derr what? Didn't it air this morning?

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People, he was being sarcastic. :roll:

I am confused. Did it air or not? I didn't see it pop up on my DVR. Its set to record any new episodes of TMNT 2012. I am at church when new episodes air so I wouldn't know.

Must suck hating on someone that did an identical scene better with more emphasis on the Turtles' comraderie and identity rather than a quick throwaway jab that makes their incarnation's Turtles look like d!cks.

I know I'll be applying this next time you say something about Arrow. :lol:
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So, any word on who voiced Griffin? I feel it reminded me a lot of R. Lee Ermey, but I want to make sure.