Official Episode Discussion S4 Ep 25: Requiem
 

And now we have reached the first of the two penultimate episodes of this season, Requiem.

In this episode, we see the final battle between Shredder and Splinter. When these two ninja titans clash only one side shall weep bitter tears and the other side will prevail, but who will it be?

It's now up on I Tunes.

Watched. The english dubbing is unbeatable. Da*n
What an episode to just be the first part of the season finale
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Love it Korean and love it in English. What are dark sad episode.

I kept it together pretty well 'till Mikey called Splinter "Papa" :cry:

Wow it's actually up on Xbox. I think this is the first time it's been up this early since I've been watching it on here.

O_O Wow! That was intense. I'll be back later to compose my thoughts better and rewatch it.

I saw what happened to Rahzar but what happened to Fishface? It's like he disappeared.

In addition to the obvious heaviness of the episode.. I can't believe they actually made a Carter reference.

This one episode redeemed the entire series for me.

:cry::tcry:

That was so sad, it felt like my heart was ripped out and put in a blender.

I said it after watching the Korean version and I say again

'I HATE BEING RIGHT'

This is for anyone who disagreed with me over 'Splinter dies permanently' for the past year

So I can finally use this gif now

https://68.media.tumblr.com/c3e40c51...a8pto1_400.gif

Holy!!! Those flash backs and the slow motion just made me lose it. I sobbed... again... at a cartoon.
My overall favourite episode of the whole of tmnt franchise, hands down.

Also Vicky does your post about who dies have to be under spoilers? or do people have to know the risk when entering an episode discussion thread?

No because it's a episode discussion thread that will contain heavy spoilers, so if someone comes in here and hadn't seen the episode yet and sees spoilers, it's there fault.

Oki just making sure.

Also anyone else notice the reference from the first movie when Shredder got thrown into the garbage truck by Splinter and Casey turned it on, just like in this episode, but here April threw him in it and Casey turned it on. I can not wait for the next episode! Why did they not air them together?! Ughh

Hats off to Seth Green, Hoon Lee and Kevin Michael Richardson. Outstanding performances!

(Dishonourable mention to the voice direction on Josh Peck's "oops" - just did NOT fit the context of that scene.)

The "Oops" is a nod to the original live action film, MrTMNT2012. I was squeeing like a fangirl as soon as I saw Casey with the garbage truck! :D

Thank you, I was very well aware of that! :tsmile:

I was specifically commenting on the way Casey Jones said it. The inflection in his voice came across way WAY too 'loud' during a very quiet and somber scenario.

A more subtle performance would have been better/more appropriate.

I love all of the callbacks to the earlier seasons.

?? But then it wouldn't have been a nod to the way it was delivered in the original film!

I genuinely don't understand this...

That's fine, I don't understand you either! ;)

Either they leave the shout out to the original film intact, or don't put it in at all. Having a sombre "Oops" would have just been beyond weird!

Wow that was something.

Wow. I have no criticisms. Just a legitimately well-done episode. Nice use of foreshadowing and all the characters were well-done. Hell, even the two references were quite good.

For the first time since the second season, I think I'm gonna immediately watch this episode again now. Well done.

Not somber, subtle.

It's really hard to describe since I'm not a voice director but the way Josh Peck said it kinda felt out of place.

Like you have Splinter dead in the corner and Casey just really decides to EMPHASISE that 'OOOPS' in a moody teenager kind of way...

In that moment, Casey should have been so awestruck that he says it almost under his breath!

My only real critique is that the show has pulled the Splinter is gonna die card a few too many times for the ending (which is still well done) to be as moving as it could have been.

Did you watch the original 1991 TMNT film? Casey's "oops" is a reference to that, dump truck and all, and it's obviously spoken with contempt for Shredder.

Wow. Just wow. Splinter is dead!?!?! Did Leatherhead drown Rahzaar?

I thought of the six henchmutants we only saw Baxter's fate? I could have missed something in Korean.

Guys try not to spoil the next episode please.

Oh man, if you didn't cry, you have no soul. That was rough.

Brutal episode. I'm at a loss for words. I was having such a fun morning (I went back and watched The Gauntlet, Showdown, and Tale of The Yokai) and now I'm gonna be bummed all day.

RIP Splinter and best wishes to Hoon Lee. Dude is insanely talented. Looking forward to seeing him in Iron Fist.

I disagree.

I don't care what anyone thinks of this particular incarnation - wether Splinter fake died before or the fact that the show went downhill after Season 1...

If this isn't the single most powerful image in Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles then you are not a fan.

I saw that they had taken part of the first TMNT film 1990.
When Shredder falls into the garbage truck and Casey start it.

Shredder is the monster without feelings? :cry:
Now he is completely destroyed. :(:(:(

+ That was great eps, but sad.

Whoa! That was an intense and sad episode! The battle scenes were intense and when he offed Splinter, I yelled out and then cried when the Turtles did. I also got emotional when Splinter was talking to Leo and you could just tell he knew what was going to happen. I think he was having dreams about it and knew it was time for him to go. It was still sad though and hats off to all of the actors for some great performances as they all did a great job with them. You could feel the emotion as you watched it and it made you cry for them.

Also loved the throwback to the first movie and Casey pressing the lever. I thought his line was delivered just fine and he did it obviously in contempt of Shredder as someone else just said.

Overall, a sad but brilliant episode nonetheless.

Next episode, it's about to go down for REAL!

Ideed! It is :D

Also I think this might be the first kids cartoon to say the D word and then immediately carry it out right afterward... O_O

SAVAGERY

Yeah the 'Papa' line...

Well played Brandon Auman (or whoever made that specific writing decision)

I cried. Again.

So I couldn't fathom a 7 day wait and went ahead and watched Owari in Korean.

Won't spoil anything, but I just want to say: FUC* YOU NICKELODEON SCHEDULING DEPARTMENT!

This plays so good as a 2 parter, and the last 3 seasons have all followed the same formula. Then again, knowing the simpletons that work on scheduling, maybe it's simply Ciro and Company's fault for not just calling them Owari parts 1 and 2.

Even aside from the "oops" part, Casey was really good in this episode. If that doesn't show how great the other characters were, I don't know what does. He felt like the character they introduced in the second season years ago. Just some kid, but surprisingly competent. Even the one joke he told was pretty good.

I f*cking loved that Carter reference. It worked in the context of the scene and came right out of nowhere. Nice touch.

Also, is this the first time the Turtles cried in this series?

I remember in the 2003 series they cried like every other episode...

Watching now. Laughed way to hard at the Carter reference. Expected Super Shredder to say "Then so be it!" When Karai said they'd all die in the warehouse fight. Let's see how this all plays out.

EDIT: man...what a gut punch. Though the garbage truck and Casey's, "Oops." Had me cheering. Next week is going to be wicked.

MIkey cried in Season 3 final and at the beginning of Beyond the Known Universe you see a pic of the turtles crying.

The only time that the turtles cried in the 2003 show was Raph in Tales of Leo.