Official Episode Discussion S5 Ep 01: Scroll of the Demodragon
 

So here we are...the final season of TMNT 2012 is starting.


Following the death of Master Splinter, the Turtles must find their way in a world where their father and master no longer exists. Fortunately, they don't have to worry about the Shredder being a threat in their lives...or do they.

Shredder's henchmen are still at large and Tigerclaw aims to summon a demonic creature known as Kavaxas. But for what purpose? And what threat would Kavaxas have upon the city?

The new in-show show?

So is...

Wait I forgot we don't need to use spoilers lmao

Nah, it's old fat balding Capt. Ryan. He slaps around Crankshaw Jr.


Ha ha the illustration of Kavaxas they use. It's the Hothead action figure.

The episode seemed super short to me for some reason, like only 15 minutes long.

Wow good episode, pretty intense.

Space Heroes the Next Generation :lol:

Love the family photo of Splinter and the turtle tots, so adorable.

Donnie making tracking devices out of furbys :lol:

I like that Casey is still using his new mask.

Good start to Season 5 :D I loved this episode.
Leo's gonna need some new swords now.

Called it.

Can't believe I called that nearly 4 years ago. Yay!

Is it just me, or did this episode seem darker then the rest of the show so far?

No Darkest Plight and Requiem are more darker than this episode.

Well, that was everything a season premiere should be.

I liked how many of the plot threads that are probably going to pop out throughout the season were explored here, and the ideas that were explored here were ones I really can't wait to see unfold.

The humor was pretty good, as well. I did like Space Heroes: The Next Generation especially, but there are some other pretty good moments here as well.

Kavaxas was a badass with a purpose. Miles better than Dregg from last season. We didn't see much of him, but I haven't seen such a hopeless fight in this show since The Gauntlet. Can't wait to see more of him.

That INTRO. Ohhhh that intro. What a step-up from the original. Instrumental and a LOT more visually interesting. Some really good stuff there.

My only real criticism (there are other minuscule things, like Kavaxas's mouth) is, as almost always, Casey. Like always, an annoying little sh*t. Not as much here as some other episodes, but this bastardized version of him is still here and I still hate it. Luckily, he's not that big a part of the episode.

Great stuff all around. If the rest of Season 5 is like this, I'll definitely see why Ciro called it his favorite.

Awesome start to the final season. So glad they have Space Heroes: The Next Generation as the new in-show. Good call, Nines and JTH. Geeky Leo is awesome and I'm so glad they kept that side of him and didn't just make him all serious after Splinter's death. Also loved the talk Leo had with Splinter though I feel that maybe Donnie is going to talk to the others and tell them that he thinks Leo is losing it. Kavaxas is an awesome character and I definitely can't wait to see more of him in future episodes. Hamill did an awesome job with that voice. Overall, an interesting start to the final season. Can't wait to see what else is in store for our heroes. I also loved the new intro and felt it was very fitting though the old one is still a favorite of mine.

So my DVR did not like the new title lol. Luckily I tuned in towards the end of the new theme song. Was there an intro scene before the song?

Yeah there was, Raph and Casey going after this new creature and got ambushed by a group of them.

I figured that's all it was, thanks.

I loved it, especially the new polished look the 2D sequences have. Interesting that only TC was there. Maybe all the other mutants died and Kavaxas brings them back first? I hope Shredder is just a mindless zombie when he comes back, his arc as an actual character is over.

Also hope Karai kills him this time.

In the series preview you can see Rahzar standing by the remains of Shredder, plus Baxter, Beebop & Rocksteady all survived the finale. I think the only henchman that could truly have died was Xever. There's no way anyone got to him before he ran out of air.

This episode was a bit hit and miss for me. It's not like I went in with a clear vision of what I expected, I was open to anything but it just... I can't explain. Maybe it'll get better after I watch it a few more times.

I like Kavaxas (Mark Hamill - divine).
I love the new intro.
I love all the little nods to things like furbies, VHS tapes, how Space Heroes: The Next Generation used the same font as Star Trek: The Next Generation.
I like how April's powers weren't enough when they're usually treated like a miracle in a bag that suddenly save the day when all hope is last.

But I find it weird that we can see a dislocated shoulder being popped back in but the creatures tried to sacrifice someone using a pipette. A PIPETTE. Bent shoulder = ok, dagger = not ok? Some Nickelodeon logic right there.

When April tried to protect the others with a psychic shield (I dunno what to call it) and they all ran for safety and let Kavaxas go at her when she clearly had no chance. They took forever to intervene as well. April could've ended up as a Kavaxas kebab.

Also, team turtle can't defeat the evil minions, let alone Kavaxas. How are they going to show the power balance evening out realistically in however many episodes?

You know that pipette had some stuff in it right, probably some sort of mutagen that was turning humans into those creatures.

Xever was actually close enough to the water to crawl in when the turtles and co weren't paying him any mind.

Seems to me that they'd just have to get that medallion from TigerClaw and then they can boss Kavaxas around.

Forgot to mention the Ghosbusters reference, love it!

Still looked funny. "I'm going to dripdrop you to death."

They weren't killing humans just turning them into those creatures.

That would have been cool. Seeing as how he's TMNT alum, and he would have been in the same episode as Luke Skywalker lol.

But I'll take fat, balding Captain Ryan. He was always my favorite of these oafish protagonists.

Finally saw the episode, Thought it was pretty good, Nice to see a new version of Space Heroes, but a lot more twisted this time.

I think Mark Hamill did a good job with Kavaxas, but its hard to get over the fact, that were hearing the Joker voice, Which I have no problems with. :)

Yep, Looks like.

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Kavaxas and Ho Chan have something in common. Some of their respective backstory is shown in text on a computer. But only for a few seconds.

It seems that something is going to happen to April by the end of this arc.

Splinter's spirit showing up reminds me of Brainiac's role in Justice League: Unlimited season 3.

With all the dark, traumatizing sh*t that the turtles had to go through out this entire show, I'm surprised that severe PTSD isn't something they've touched on much other than Splinter's death.

I hope Tiger Claw gets a satisfying demise at the end of this arc. Preferably dragged to hell by Kavaxas.

I am curious how Raph and Casey survived the early stages of the episode.

Yeah, I was stunned when I realized it was already 9:22 and it seemed like Kavaxas just emerged. The pacing on this reminded me of something out of a Dragonball Z episode during a World Tournament arc.

"Too disturbing for children" haha!

I was creeped out when Kavaxas decided he wanted to consume April to absorb her power. Something tells me that's going to be a major plot point for at least the next few episodes that he appears in. Whereas the Kraang were after April in the first season, now Kavaxas wants her to increase his power... and maybe to break free of Tigerclaw's mystic hold over him. And that reminds me of another Dragonball Z memory...

Yeah, pacing was slower on this one. To be expected in part 1 of a 4-episode arc.

Exactly. If any of the henchmen died, it would've been Rahzar.

I didn't see anything off with the pacing, it's a multi-part episode. First half was basically just them going after the cultist creatures.

Great episode.

1. I was surprised that none of the mutant henchmen were among Tiger Claw in the episode, I could've sworn I saw them in a preview.

2. Anyways, I like many things about this episode, most notably Kavaxas. What an awesome villain, especially when you're voiced by the Joker. Along with him, I found his backstory and his cult members to be pretty fascinating.

3. Casey keeping his new mask was a new touch which I liked.

4. Nice to see the turtles coping well with Splinter's death, and Leonardo especially trying to honour his father's legacy by being the new sensei.

5. Space Heroes is finally back!! :D

6. Also, am I the only one who noticed all the turtles having red masks in the opening theme?

7. Regarding the villains, what exactly happened to the foot? I remember Tiger Claw saying that they went into hiding after Shredder's death but they're simply absent here. Are the ghoul creatures supposed to be new members of the foot? Someone help me, I'm confused.

Anyone find it bizarre Tiger Claw put on a new voice just to talk to his cultist henchmen, then started talking with his normal voice after he took off his robe? What was the point other than to trick kids into thinking it was a new villain?

You just answered your own question. :P

I'm surprised Mark Hammil had time to voice this character in the next few episodes when he's busy filming Star Wars Episode 8 and probably 9 right now. Those movies are filmed in Europe, how did Nick get him into their American recording studios in California or wherever it is?

Too bad they gave that twist away in the previews weeks ago! :tlol:

Anybody else think it's weird that the "Foot" went underground but only Tigerclaw was present at the summoning of their great Red Hope?

Whoever Tiger Claw's followers are supposed to be, they look strikingly like Sand People from Tattooine. Coincidence since Mark Hamill is voicing Kavaxas?

Thats what Im wondering too. Did he lose all of his robots? Are there any more human foot soldiers? Where were the mutant henchmen during the summoning? I think those questions might be answered in the episode, "The forgotten Swordsman" where Karai is trying to get the Kuro Kabuto.

I think you're confusing Sand People with Jawas, because the cultists look nothing like Sand People.

You're right, They look a bit like Jawas.

True, but how many little kids get online to watch junk like that. lol