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Andrew NDB 04-07-2017 03:38 PM

Star Wars: Episode IX
 
http://www.nydailynews.com/entertain...icle-1.3030154

Carrie Fisher WILL be in it. Using "recent footage."

CyberCubed 04-07-2017 03:43 PM

http://s2.quickmeme.com/img/8d/8de96...87734188ab.jpg

ToTheNines 04-07-2017 03:48 PM

That's cool. I just hope The Last Jedi doesn't suffer for it.

Kinda laughed my ass off at this part:

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“You don't mess with this legacy,” he said. “It would be like rewriting the Bible. To me, Star Wars is the holy grail of storytelling and lore and you can't mess with it.”

CyberCubed 04-07-2017 03:57 PM

So my guess is they cut a Leia scene out of episode 8 and are just going to move it into episode 9?

Andrew NDB 04-07-2017 03:58 PM

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Originally Posted by CyberCubed (Post 1674816)
So my guess is they cut a Leia scene out of episode 8 and are just going to move it into episode 9?

That was what I was thinking they'd do. Or maybe behind the scenes footage where Fisher was talking, and they have found a way to pull it off.

CyberCubed 04-07-2017 04:06 PM

I can't imagine much more than her getting some standing shot with the rest of the cast at the end of the last movie, similar to the scenes at the end of Episode 4 or Episode 6 where the entire main cast was gathered around celebrating. I guess it does confirm Leia won't be killed off in-universe though.

Andrew NDB 04-07-2017 04:23 PM

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Originally Posted by CyberCubed (Post 1674818)
I guess it does confirm Leia won't be killed off in-universe though.

Not necessarily, though my money is on her dying in-between episodes IX and X. They will make some dumb book about it, or something. But they could use just enough of her footage to show her death in IX. I guess 2019 would be far enough removed from Fisher's actual death for it to not be in too bad taste.

i.e., cut to a viewport on a Mon Calamari Cruiser, zoom in on Leia, walking away from the view. Closeup of her with a very sad expression. Insert some tiny bit of dialogue salvaged from a viable cut scene or behind the scenes bit. Then BOOM, a volley of proton torpedoes impact the side of the cruiser, cut to the exterior and we watch the Mon Calamari Cruiser rotating on its axis as it explodes.

DestronMirage22 04-07-2017 04:27 PM

Love the title of the article. "Final Star Wars Movie". Yeah, suure. :lol::roll:

CyberCubed 04-07-2017 04:32 PM

Is Billie Lourde's character going to get increased screentime for whatever Leia's original role in Episode 9 was? I assume she would want to honor her mothers legacy. They could give her a role similar to Wedge Antilles in the original films. Nothing too big, but a decent but memorable role.

MikeandRaph87 04-07-2017 04:40 PM

I typically would be against it as we don't kniw how the late actors would feel about being digitally inserted or playing around with footage for sake of plot. Yet Carrie Fisher was beaming at the result of her character's cameo in Rogue One. That being said I can see her in favor of it. That being said I am as well.

NinjaPug 04-07-2017 04:40 PM

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Originally Posted by ToTheNines (Post 1674815)
That's cool. I just hope The Last Jedi doesn't suffer for it.

This is my main concern.

CyberCubed 04-07-2017 04:42 PM

Something tells me these films are going to have a lot more problems then whatever Leia's scenes turn out to be.

TheSkeletonMan939 04-07-2017 05:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Andrew NDB (Post 1674812)
Carrie Fisher WILL be in it. Using "recent footage."

This is probably the worst decision they could have made.

Spike Spiegel 04-08-2017 11:06 AM

Putting fanservice ahead of story is a bad idea.

sdp 04-08-2017 11:11 AM

Ironically Carrie Fisher wouldn't have given a damn if they CG'd her or used her in any way in Episode IX, she would've liked having it done.

I'm fine with them doing this and it makes perfect sense, better than killing her off for no reason off screen.

Chris 04-08-2017 06:08 PM

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Originally Posted by ToTheNines (Post 1674815)
That's cool. I just hope The Last Jedi doesn't suffer for it.

It shouldn't do. Bob Iger confirmed at the Disney shareholders meeting earlier this year that they weren't altering The Last Jedi because of Carrie Fisher's death. Which is good, it's her final completed role & it's right they leave it as is rather than try & split it over 2 films.

Episode IX however will have been re-written. Even using deleted scenes/footage from TFA & TLJ plus doubles/stand ins, voice actors for additional dialogue, any behind the scenes footage that could be repurposed, IX wasn't written and they couldn't possibly have enough footage to cover whatever her intended role was to be.

We have no way of knowing how big or small her role will be in IX right now, heck we can't even speculate until TLJ has been released. By recent footage they could meaning anything from re-using her final "May the Force be with you" from TFA as a Force Ghost to taking footage of Mark & Carrie at Celebration and CGing them into costume to create a Luke & Leia reunion (hopefully that's not needed and we get a reunion in TLJ).

I'm sure they will come up with something that, whilst not what they had planned, will allow the story to conclude in a satisfying way and, more importantly, honour the memory of someone who is beloved by so many.

sdp 04-08-2017 09:23 PM

Are we getting a teaser for SW Celebration or anytime soon? I believe Rogue one and Ep. VII both had teasers by now. Maybe they're aware of SW Fatigue could happen if they keep trying to hype these movies yearly with so much time in advance?

TigerClaw 04-08-2017 09:49 PM

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Originally Posted by sdp (Post 1675043)
Are we getting a teaser for SW Celebration or anytime soon? I believe Rogue one and Ep. VII both had teasers by now. Maybe they're aware of SW Fatigue could happen if they keep trying to hype these movies yearly with so much time in advance?

I'm sure we'll get a teaser for The Last Jedi at Star Wars Celebration, The movie comes out this year, so that's a given.

Andrew NDB 04-09-2017 01:49 AM

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Originally Posted by Spike Spiegel (Post 1674928)
Putting fanservice ahead of story is a bad idea.

Is it that, though? It seems the opposite. They obviously intended to have Leia in Episode IX. The actress dying between shooting episodes forces them to throw out the whole intended creative playbook. Coming to an agreement on including actual Fisher-as-Leia footage (and not even CGI recreations of Fisher-as-Leia) to have her somewhat, kind of carry out that original creative plan seems like a pretty damn good idea vs. suddenly veering the ship and killing the character off because her actress died, doing who knows what sort of damage to the intended arc of the trilogy.

And I'm pretty sure if Fisher was alive, she wouldn't be like, "No way! Leia dies with me, I don't care what the plan that was laid out for Leia to me in VII-IX when I signed onto these, and even though I was super excited to see CGI younger me at the end of Rogue One!" I don't think she'd want to see another actress in the role, either, if there is some way they can use unused footage of her to round out IX.

CyberCubed 04-09-2017 03:16 AM

I get the feeling they're keeping her alive just so they can continue using her character in books/comics that will come out years after this movie ends. No way are they going to limit all the comic and novel writers from using Leia with stories set after Episode 9.

Andrew NDB 04-09-2017 03:18 AM

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Originally Posted by CyberCubed (Post 1675091)
I get the feeling they're keeping her alive just so they can continue using her character in books/comics that will come out years after this movie ends. No way are they going to limit all the comic and novel writers from using Leia with stories set after Episode 9.

But Leia won't be in X, no matter how things shake out. The movie people don't care about the comic book and novel people. And Fisher's brother and family still could've just said "No." I really don't smell anything devious in any of this.

CyberCubed 04-09-2017 03:21 AM

Well yeah, but I don't expect an Episode X for another 10-15 years. I mean Daisy Ridley will barely be past 25 by the time Episode 9 finishes, what's the point of starting an Episode X immediately after when they would have to focus on the same characters?

It would be like expecting Episode 7 to come out in the 90's when Luke/Han/Leia were only marginally older than they were at the end of Episode 6.

Andrew NDB 04-09-2017 03:24 AM

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Originally Posted by CyberCubed (Post 1675093)
Well yeah, but I don't expect an Episode X for another 10-15 years. I mean Daisy Ridley will barely be past 25 by the time Episode 9 finishes, what's the point of starting an Episode X immediately after when they would have to focus on the same characters?

It would be like expecting Episode 7 to come out in the 90's when Luke/Han/Leia were only marginally older than they were at the end of Episode 6.

There will be a break... but I'm not seeing a break like the ones we've seen between trilogies. Instead of 10 years, it'll be like 5. 6 tops.

NinjaPug 04-09-2017 01:12 PM

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Originally Posted by sdp (Post 1675043)
Are we getting a teaser for SW Celebration or anytime soon? I believe Rogue one and Ep. VII both had teasers by now. Maybe they're aware of SW Fatigue could happen if they keep trying to hype these movies yearly with so much time in advance?

They'll follow the same pattern they used for TFA and Rogue One. Teaser in April, behind the scenes reel in July and a full trailer late summer/early fall.

The Last Jedi panel at Celebration is Friday so expect the teaser online around 12:30 est.

sdp 04-11-2017 12:38 AM

I was re-watching the teaser and first trailer for The Force Awakens and they're still awesome. Seriously, watch them again.

I can't believe they messed things up so badly and remade A New Hope, the trailers basically laid ground for something new. Unless they remake ESB I guess The Last Jedi should give us something new?

CyberCubed 04-11-2017 01:38 AM

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Originally Posted by sdp (Post 1675726)
Unless they remake ESB I guess The Last Jedi should give us something new?

If most of it is about Luke and Rey, their past, and giving Kylo Ren some much needed screentime, it should turn out very good. I expect Finn to just be the, "funny black guy comic relief character" and Poe to just be there for shippers, so we can hope for the best.

Andrew NDB 04-11-2017 02:12 AM

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Originally Posted by CyberCubed (Post 1675733)
I expect Finn to just be the, "funny black guy comic relief character" and Poe to just be there for shippers, so we can hope for the best.

I think I remember Rian Johnson saying something to the effect of "Oh yes!" in regard to "Will we see an LGBTQ character in Episode 8?" a while back. So maybe it goes beyond that.

CyberCubed 04-11-2017 03:01 AM

I don't think they'll really do it, not with Finn anyway. Weren't the two Asians in Rogue One supposed to be gay, but they made it so subtle you couldn't tell the difference and they just felt like friends?

NinjaPug 04-14-2017 05:55 PM

The report about Leia in IX was bogus.

http://ew.com/movies/2017/04/14/kath...alflow_twitter

Andrew NDB 04-14-2017 06:29 PM

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Originally Posted by NinjaPug (Post 1676783)
The report about Leia in IX was bogus.

http://ew.com/movies/2017/04/14/kath...alflow_twitter

Damn it. More FAKE news.

Leia will definitely die off-camera between VIII and IX, if this is true.

CyberCubed 04-14-2017 07:31 PM

This is why I think Luke will survive this movie trilogy. No way are they going to kill off all 3 original main characters. Originally they probably were intending Leia to be the only one to survive, but now they probably changed that to Luke.

TigerClaw 04-25-2017 01:27 PM

Disney and Lucasfilm has officially announced the released date for Star Wars Episode 9, the 3rd film in this trilogy will release on May 24 2019, So no longer a Christmas release.
http://www.starwars.com/news/star-wa...-release-dates

Andrew NDB 04-25-2017 01:28 PM

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Originally Posted by TigerClaw (Post 1679012)
Disney and Lucasfilm has officially announced the released date for Star Wars Episode 9, the 3rd film in this trilogy will release on May 24 2019, So no longer a Christmas release.
http://www.starwars.com/news/star-wa...-release-dates

Pushed up, then? That's a fairly quick turnaround for a Star Wars film.

sdp 04-25-2017 10:11 PM

Wow.

So we're getting a new Star Wars film 6 months after Episode 8? and then episode 9 comes out in a year and a half from 8, basically 2 years from today? Way to burn the franchise quickly, not even F&F get sequels so fast.

At this rate I'm guessing they want to have a new Star Wars film every 8 months or maybe two a year. Episode X will likely be released 3 years from today starting a new trilogy.


The excitement of Star Wars really is dead.

NinjaPug 04-26-2017 08:40 AM

It seems more like they are simply transitioning their annual movie from December to May which is when Disney originally wanted VII and VIII to open.

sdp 04-26-2017 01:47 PM

December has worked great for them and people have gotten used to and like Star Wars in the Christmas season, it's almost become a tradition at this point with only two movies.

Sure there's the potential of making more money in May but there's also more competition and it was already doing gangbusters in December for them to move it. And if they really wanted Star Wars in May then they should've just delayed Episode VII to May instead of releasing it in December.

I've not been vocal about my dislike of yearly Star Wars but the way they're handling things really seems to be all about profit in the short term and not the long term, Bob Iger is smarter than that which is why it boggles my mind that they want to keep rushing more product out.

NinjaPug 04-26-2017 01:57 PM

Bob Iger told investors since day one of the acquisition of Lucasfilm that Ep VII would be released in 2015. That's why they didn't delay it a full year to May 2016.

sdp 04-26-2017 02:41 PM

Telling investors is not a contract, the stock would've fallen a bit during the announcement but it woulnd't really have affected the stock price much when you know they have Star Wars, not to mention the company was already in a new golden age.

Andrew NDB 05-26-2017 01:42 PM

http://epicstream.com/news/LucasFilm...-Carrie-Fisher

This is pretty sad to read. It was going to be showcasing her at the forefront.

This actually has it all make sense. Han is VII, Luke is VIII, and Leia would have been IX... even though that's all a bit OT fanservicey... damn.

Spike Spiegel 05-26-2017 01:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Andrew NDB (Post 1685476)
http://epicstream.com/news/LucasFilm...-Carrie-Fisher

This is pretty sad to read. It was going to be showcasing her at the forefront.

This actually has it all make sense. Han is VII, Luke is VIII, and Leia would have been IX... even though that's all a bit OT fanservicey... damn.

https://i.giphy.com/n7Kv7tLf2UzMk.webp


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