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The Foot Walks Again script
Where can I find the script for "The Foot Walks Again", the abandoned 1990's film?
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I don't believe it's 'out there', exactly. A guy bought it from an auction & to my knowledge has not made it available.
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I've never heard of this. Was this a concept before the 1990 film that was produced?
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It was one of the later scripts for TMNT 4. TNM was still airing. Karai, Foot Elite, Venus, Kirby, Spyder (alternate dimension Shredder). Not the best of the TMNT 4 scripts, but it had potential.
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Ah, when I saw 1990s, I thought 1990. But one of many different takes on a desired fourth film makes more sense...
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I'd love to take a peak at it. Glad you're willing to share. Looking forward to it, hope you'll keep us posted. |
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Yeah, what the heck is this? Is this the Hallmark thing?
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d_osborn, if and when you decide to post that (with or without context), I will be greatly indebted to you for your contributions to the fandom!
We had a good time discussing that script and concept art when it was put up for auction years ago! http://forums.thetechnodrome.com/sho...t=33269&page=4 and here... http://forums.thetechnodrome.com/showthread.php?t=40446 Quote:
So, in regards to TMNT 4 movie there were multiple ideas and attempts to get it into production until TMNT 2007 finally came out. Here's a few ideas/rumors, I remember: The 1994 "Next Mutation" movie concept for which Mirage did concept art of revised Turtles and Splinter designs, later uploaded to the old "Blast from the Past" website. I'm guessing this was the same project that was going to feature "Kirby" who basically looked like a live-action Slash? http://tmntentity.blogspot.com/2011/...hat-never.html The evolved form of this concept that would apparently be an alternate universe adventure featuring corrupted versions of April O'Neil, Casey Jones, Spyder & Nano-Spyder, Super Shredder, and more Kirby ideas (most drawn by Kevin Eastman or Mike Dooney), presumably titled "The Foot Walks Again" which d_osborn owns a script draft for: http://comicsalliance.com/teenage-mu...kevin-eastman/ The 2001 project that would supposedly feature Steve Barron teaming up with Brendan McCarthy for more hip and "street" approach to the characters, concept art of which was posted on McCarthy's website. http://tmntentity.blogspot.com/2011/...hat-never.html http://artbrendan.com/portfolio-item...ninja-turtles/ The rumored "John Woo" R-rated film I heard comic enthusiasts talk about in my college days (circa late 1990s early 00s) http://thecomicscode.weebly.com/john-woos-tmnt.html The early 00s Rainbow Studios CGI project that had a demo-trailer made and posted onto the official TMNT website (maybe film, maybe TV series) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y_wQ8Xt8GN0 The officially acknowledged (by Peter Laird) "Hallmark" film, conceptualized sometime around 2003. |
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http://peterlairdstmntblog.blogspot....37371629364025 Concept Art for a creature http://peterlairdstmntblog.blogspot....shreddant.html (confirmation of an existing script!) |
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I think the film should've been recorded and released at least.
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This is even worse than bay turtles :lol:
http://artbrendan.com/portfolio-item...ninja-turtles/ |
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As bad as the Platinum Dunes films are, I actually don't mind the character designs they went with as much as most hardcore fans. They've clearly taken inspiration from these concepts, which I dig. I know that in the past, a few other franchises with abandoned movie projects have eventually been brought over to the comic book medium and finished there. I've never cared, but if Brendan McCarthy, Steve Baron, and Kevin Eastman were to team up on this, I'd absolutely go nuts. Make it happen, IDW! |
All right, as long as it doesn't have jingle-jangly accessories over the Turtles like in the Bay movies making it impossible for them to be ninjas and move in silence...
*clicks on link* Yeah, that's dumb. |
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Eh. |
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Let them have some attempts at normalcy, family life, self-expression. Then when it comes time to go above ground and do battle, they dress accordingly. I mean, if I were truly trying to be stealthy, I wouldn't throw on a red, flowing bandana either. |
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Or maybe they just look cool. |
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But I think it's important that they feel the isolation down there in the sewers. I would never say that their number one mission is to befriend all of New York, but I like the idea that they try and replicate what they see on television and in the city streets, as a way of belonging, or just to give them some visual personality. Neither Batman's yellow symbol or the red bandana's being a distraction for enemies really hold much water for me. That said, I can suspend my imagination enough, given that they look fantastic. My only hangup is when we see the turtles constantly hanging around the lair in knee-pads and masks, with weapons holstered. Image, and sometimes Mirage, handled this pretty well for my taste though. |
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Does anyone know a fan artist that does a decent Lawson TMNT? Does Lawson himself do fan comic commissions? :D |
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The Bay designs didn't even do what they were supposed to do and let people who didn't know much about the turtles be able to tall which one is which. Gaudy and over the top as they were other than Donatello none of the outfits made a lick of sense to someone didn't already know which turtle had which personality. Why is the blue one wearing samurai gear? I thought they were all martial artists. Why is the one in read got a doo-rag and loin cloth? Is he supposed to be a barbarian? Why is the orange horny one got chains and sunglasses he can't even wear? Sure, fans who already know the characters can intuit what they were going for but for the uninitiated it's even harder to tell them apart. At least the Barron designs effectively convey (stereotypical as it is) they are teenagers in a then contemporary urban setting. Quote:
This goes back to #2 of the Mirage series were it opens to the turtles living room doing normal domestic things like Don is soldering a circuit and Leo is reading a book while sitting next to Splinter on the coach while he watches TV. Even Raph and Mike are more rough housing than properly sparring. Even in the first issue it's implied with the look of the lair being very home-y that the live a life that approximates that an actual human family despite their unique circumstances. Just how "normal" TMNT should is debatable. I think at least some regular societal concepts should elude them but the idea that things like "normalcy," "family life," or "self-expression" are not things the turtles would be bothered with doesn't bare out. Arguments of realism aside it's antithetical to how the characters have been presented since the beginning. Not saying I was ever in love with the clothes from concept art of the Barron picture but like the bandannas (multi-colored of otherwise) have no real purpose in-story it serves a practical one of being a visual shorthand for them being teenagers in an urban setting. I can appreciate what they were going for even if I think there are better ways of conveying that. Quote:
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Seriously though, you gotta put up those scans somewhere. Or at least transcribe them!
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Wow!
The 1995 draft by Ford and Soffer is Lost Media no more!
https://lostmediawiki.com/Teenage_Mu...lm;_1995-1997) https://files.catbox.moe/mzwmkt.pdf Spoiler:
I’ll post more thoughts laters! |
Interesting and answers a lot of questions I had when I followed the bread crumbs of it as a kid. Also, it sounds like hot garbage.
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I would have liked to see it but not as a sequel to the first 3 live action movies. I don’t think it would have fit in that continuity. Mostly because of the Turtles and Splinter’s secondary mutations. How and why would that happen now?
An alternate dimension and evil counterparts is a perfectly fine storyline but changing the main characters that much seems too far from the first 3. Could have been cool as a separate movie or cartoon series...when things at the time were going “extreme” :lol: (Dinosaurs, G.I. Joe, Ghostbusters etc.) It sounds like that’s what they were going for with the new mutations. |
Sounds like a mess.
Not fan of the secondary mutation and the whole story sounds very generic. Also, what with the name Spyder? |
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Here's my old informational thing when I was tracking bits about it ages ago: http://thegreenlanterncorps.com/tmnt/nt4.html |
The secondary mutation has always sort of been brewing beneath the surface but never seems to have been successfully achieved. They went for it here, the Red Sky seasons, and even TLR introduced it in a rather trivial manner, I guess to explain why Mikey could take so much damage? It’s always weird.
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And this was the same thought process that continued into the Saban Next Mutation show. That's why they look a little different. They just dialed what they were going to do in that movie way back.
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I wonder if this is more of a Kevin thing or if it was part of the original TLR outline. I’m not sure I understand the fascination with it. Seems sort of gimmicky, but I’m sure something cool could be done with it, maybe in a body-horror type story. As a superpower, I’m not into it.
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Next Mutation kind of played it so low key that it might not have been element at all.
I've never even figured out that TMNT had a second mutation there and just considered them looking all different as part of the style of the show. |
Well... it's interesting, though not necessarily a good interesting. Likewise not a fan of the secondary mutation concept.
So Kirby was really part of a different set of Turtles from another universe's Earth, rather than actually parallel versions of the TMNT we know? Not sure how I feel about that, it's a bit convoluted. Even if Mirage/2003's super Turtles also had different names, they were still the parallel counterparts of the regular TMNT. But that's not really parallel if Kirby isn't another version of one of the TMNT. Disappear without even a note to April? I can't really see them doing that. Quote:
Yeah, if this had ever been made, either something else needs to lead up to that point or it really should not be connected to the original movies. Quote:
Was kind of expecting something ridiculous like Bay would probably do with it... not "Leo can just become an object to throw at people." Quote:
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Let April be the kind of character she is, which is a crucially important supporting character who doesn't need to become the ass kicker. If they want to add a female ass kicker, then add Alopex or someone else to a film. You are allowed to have more than one girl present (excluding the villain), believe it or not. |
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