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TurtleTitan97 05-08-2017 08:25 PM

Hellboy Reboot
 
David Harbour (Stranger Things) is currently in talks to play the main role. Del Toro and Ron Pearlman won't be involved: http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/hea...arbour-1001462

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Millennium is in negotiations with producers Larry Gordon and Lloyd Levin for a new installment.




Hellboy, the demonic comic book hero-turned- Guillermo del Toro film franchise, is poised to return to the big-screen, this time without the filmmaker at the helm.

Millennium is in negotiations with producers Larry Gordon and Lloyd Levin for a new installment that would reboot and relaunch the property.

Neil Marshall, the horror director who broke out with The Descent and won raves for his work on Game of Thrones, is in talks to direct the project, which has a working title of Hellboy: Rise of the Blood Queen and has a script by Andrew Cosby, Christopher Golden and Hellboy creator Mike Mignola.

Del Toro is not involved nor is Ron Perlman, the actor who inhabited the red-skinned cigar-chomping devil in the two previous installments.

Rather, David Harbour, the Stranger Things star, is in talks play Hellboy.

If a deal makes, Millennium would become the third company to make a Hellboy movie in as many releases.

Hellboy was created in 1993 by Mignola and became an indie comic hit as it told of a demon raised by a professor, working to fight supernatural evildoers for an organization called Bureau for Paranormal Research and Defense.

Del Toro co-wrote and directed the first adaptation, which was made by Revolution Studios and released by Sony in 2004. The movie made $60 million domestic (another $40 internationally asterisked that this was the era before international box office dominated performance) on a budget of $66 million.

The second movie was made by Universal with the same team – del Toro and Perlman – but its box office mojo was cut short when The Dark Knight, directed by Christopher Nolan and featuring Heath Ledger as the Joker, opened six days later.

Still, there were rumblings of a third installment and last year del Toro, Dark Horse Entertainment, Levin and Gordon, the latter who controls the rights, explored their options. However, the budget was a stumbling block, with del Toro wanting a bigger canvas for his vision. In the end, the producers decided a reboot and relaunch was more feasible.

Autbot_Benz 05-08-2017 08:31 PM

I would have rather had the third movie. Ron Perlman was Hellboy he was amazing.

http://i.imgur.com/FUPJx4x.gif

drgon78 05-08-2017 08:44 PM

Ron Pearlman is Hellboy, anyone else is an imitation.

Andrew NDB 05-08-2017 09:36 PM

Huh. Well this probably spells doom for my buddy's sidequel that was being developed. Or maybe not.

Powder 05-08-2017 10:19 PM

I'm for it, could be dope.

Ninjinister 05-08-2017 11:01 PM

Perlman is my favorite actor, and I have no idea who this bloke is, so I'm not super-enthused. Also I loved the del Toro weirdness of the creatures (especially in the second one where he got to do more than just adapt) so... eh. I do like Hellboy as a character, though.

Autbot_Benz 05-08-2017 11:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Ninjinister (Post 1681523)
Perlman is my favorite actor, and I have no idea who this bloke is, so I'm not super-enthused. Also I loved the del Toro weirdness of the creatures (especially in the second one where he got to do more than just adapt) so... eh. I do like Hellboy as a character, though.

Same here Perlman is one of my favorite actors. . Man I feel bad for Ron and GTD just a few months earlier they went to pitch Hellboy 3 and the studios said no so they announce a reboot later. Kind of a big Middle Finger to Ron and GTD.

ProactiveMan 05-09-2017 04:11 AM

I'm not sure how I feel about that. I love the two movies, and even the two animated movies, but I can't honestly say that it's impossible to make a better adaptation of the comic. I'd like to see Hellboy III more than a reboot, but if that's the way it has to be then I'll give it a fair shake.

MsMarvelDuckie 05-09-2017 05:18 AM

I agree that Perlman WAS Hellboy. He absolutely nailed it. I have a few HB and BPRD issues and he and Abe's actor were stellar in their roles.

TigerClaw 05-09-2017 05:59 AM

I heard the reboot is gonna be rated R.
https://www.comicbookmovie.com/hellb...arbour-a150952

Krutch 05-09-2017 06:24 AM

As much as it kills me there won't be a third DelToro/Perlman movie, I've made my peace with that a long time ago.

And Niel Marshal is an amazing director. The Descent was one of the scariest horror flicks I've ever seen, Dog Soldiers was a fun action take on werewolves, and Doomsday is just a charged mess of ideas that I couldn't take my eyes off. Love this guy. Looking forward to see how this develops.

plastroncafe 05-09-2017 08:41 AM

Well I'm both sad and cautiously optimistic about this.

CylonsKlingonsDaleksOhMy 05-09-2017 08:56 AM

The original Hellboy movies didn't do much for me, but I really liked Ron and the overall potential.

I think a reboot, especially with Hopper, could be excellent. Optimistic.

Andrew NDB 05-09-2017 10:56 AM

Personally, I saw Hellboy 1 and it was oh-kay. Kind of boring. Ending sort of deadpan. Never bothered with part 2.

sdp 05-09-2017 09:28 PM

I've never watched or checked anything out from Hellboy, I don't know, it doesn't seem to appeal to me, are the two DTV movies or live action movies a good way to get a feeling for the character?

ProphetofGanja 05-24-2017 01:18 PM

I hate to rain on anyone's parade, but as a long-time Hellboy comics fan I'm overjoyed to hear that the Guillermo Del Toro franchise is dead. Pearlman really was a greaty Hellboy, but I think David Harbour could do just as good a job.

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Originally Posted by sdp (Post 1681769)
I've never watched or checked anything out from Hellboy, I don't know, it doesn't seem to appeal to me, are the two DTV movies or live action movies a good way to get a feeling for the character?

No. Do yourself a favor and check out the first few stories from the Hellboy comics, or pick and choose based on what interests you personally. There is a long-running plot but also a lot of stand-alone stories that are a lot of fun.

Seriously, the two live-action Hellboy flicks are awful messes and totally changed the nature of the characters' world, the Bureau for Paranormal Research and Defense where Hellboy works, and his teammates there. I don't really see why an R rating is necessary for the series but as long as its better than the first film franchise I'm all for it

TurtleTitan97 06-07-2017 11:31 PM

A few minor updates:

-The film currently has the tentative title of "Hellboy: Rise of the Blood Queen"

-Pre-production on the film is currently underway as Harbour teased in a photo he's being fitted for Hellboy's Right Hand of Doom: http://www.cbr.com/hellboy-reboot-da...-hand-of-doom/

-Filming has also been confirmed to start this upcoming Fall: http://www.cbr.com/hellboy-reboot-fi...david-harbour/

-And finally, Ron Pearlman officially passes on the torch and gave Harbour his blessing: https://www.comicbookmovie.com/hellb...-torch-a151664

The Deadman 07-05-2017 06:42 PM

Lionsgate Will Probably Distribute ‘Hellboy: Rise of the Blood Queen’

The Deadman 07-12-2017 04:36 PM

Mignola Reveals Hellboy Reboot Was Originally Tied to Del Toro Movies
Read more at http://www.comingsoon.net/movies/new...DdDr5izzJtt.99

Candy Kappa 07-12-2017 04:55 PM

I'm all for a movie closer to Mignola's Hellboy. The del Toro movies are alright, but the story was pretty boring in both and only holds up due to Creature Design and the charisma of the main actors.

ProphetofGanja 07-12-2017 05:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Candy Kappa (Post 1697480)
I'm all for a movie closer to Mignola's Hellboy. The del Toro movies are alright, but the story was pretty boring in both and only holds up due to Creature Design and the charisma of the main actors.

Yeah, I still can't get over seeing Rasputin wearing sunglasses. I think ultimately the character/creature design was a mixed bag. Hellboy looked great, but Abe looked pretty wack. The odd changes like making Liz a romantic interest rather than a little sister-type character were really not needed.

Autbot_Benz 08-01-2017 04:35 PM

http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/hea...edium=referral

Ian Mcshane is cast as Prof Broom

Autbot_Benz 08-21-2017 05:45 PM

Francis himself from Deadpool joins the cast


Ed Skrein‏Verified account @edskrein 19m19 minutes ago

Excited to join the #Hellboy cast as Ben Daimio. All praise due to the creator @artofmmignola ���� #BPRD

apparently this character is Asian-American in the comics and people are upset that he is being white washed

Autbot_Benz 08-28-2017 02:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Autbot_Benz (Post 1708754)
Francis himself from Deadpool joins the cast


Ed Skrein‏Verified account @edskrein 19m19 minutes ago

Excited to join the #Hellboy cast as Ben Daimio. All praise due to the creator @artofmmignola ���� #BPRD

apparently this character is Asian-American in the comics and people are upset that he is being white washed

Ed Skrein has left the reboot because of the white washing controversy

http://variety.com/2017/film/news/ed...ng-1202540677/

ProphetofGanja 08-28-2017 03:39 PM

Oh good. Now they can properly portray Ben Daimio

CylonsKlingonsDaleksOhMy 08-28-2017 04:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Autbot_Benz (Post 1710169)
Ed Skrein has left the reboot because of the white washing controversy

http://variety.com/2017/film/news/ed...ng-1202540677/

I have no feelings on this character or property or actor, but that is pretty cool of Skrein to do that.

plastroncafe 08-28-2017 04:16 PM

Damn. That's a gutsy move.
Good on him!

ProactiveMan 08-29-2017 12:54 AM

I hope they paid him something. I'm conflicted about this. I understand where everyone is coming from, and if the actor really did step aside because he thought it was the right thing to do then that shows a certain amount of integrity.. At the same time, there is a certain lack of artistic integrity in letting twitter call the shots. The next actor in this guy's shoes is in for a rough ride.

Powder 08-29-2017 01:09 AM

Bad move on whoever cast him, good move on him for backing out. I dunno why Hollywood has such a hate-boner for Asians.

Sumac 08-29-2017 02:51 AM

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Originally Posted by ProactiveMan (Post 1710270)
I hope they paid him something. I'm conflicted about this. I understand where everyone is coming from, and if the actor really did step aside because he thought it was the right thing to do then that shows a certain amount of integrity.. At the same time, there is a certain lack of artistic integrity in letting twitter call the shots. The next actor in this guy's shoes is in for a rough ride.

They should've cast asian actor to play asian character.
Twitter has nothing to do with it. Or at least, I doubt it is the main reason.

ProactiveMan 08-30-2017 12:50 AM

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Originally Posted by Sumac (Post 1710283)
They should've cast asian actor to play asian character.
Twitter has nothing to do with it. Or at least, I doubt it is the main reason.

I agree they should have cast someone else, but based on the way this went down, I don't see how you can say Twitter had nothing to do with it. The dude took the job, and backlash made him quit. Do you think he would have done so sans backlash?

plastroncafe 08-30-2017 11:52 AM

"Made him quit."

It's true.
Twitter had a knife and everything.

Andrew NDB 08-30-2017 11:56 AM

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Originally Posted by Autbot_Benz (Post 1710169)
Ed Skrein has left the reboot because of the white washing controversy

http://variety.com/2017/film/news/ed...ng-1202540677/

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Originally Posted by plastroncafe (Post 1710194)
Damn. That's a gutsy move.

It's a savvy move.

How many people were talking about Ed Skrein before he did this? How many people are talking about Ed Skrein now?

TheSkeletonMan939 08-30-2017 12:53 PM

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Originally Posted by plastroncafe (Post 1710518)
"Made him quit."

It's true.
Twitter had a knife and everything.

Twitter "outrage" was a factor in Ghost in the Shell's hard time at the box office; that film came out only a few months ago and of course featured a white actress playing a historically Asian role. You think Lionsgate wasn't going to learn from that incident once the same thing started happening with Hellboy? Either Skrein was pressured to leave the project (with a lump of cash in hand) or he's the selfless hero he presents himself as and didn't want to be the man who caused the film to get bad word-of-mouth in a few months.

GitS was of course a hackwork film that alienated a lot of its potential audience in several ways, but ScarJo's casting was a big turn-off to everyone.

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Originally Posted by Andrew NDB (Post 1710520)
It's a savvy move.

How many people were talking about Ed Skrein before he did this? How many people are talking about Ed Skrein now?

Not just Skrein, but Hellboy in general. The last movie came out like 10 years ago; something like this is a great way to get people's ears to perk up, especially in the tornado of comic book films we have now.

plastroncafe 08-30-2017 01:10 PM

If Ghost in the Shell, or The Last Airbender, had been better movies in general the outrage would have been easily forgotten.

Calling this Twitter Outrage dismisses the fact that this is what cultural shifts look like.

I stand by my original assessment of this being a gutsy movie on the actor's part, because it's still a gamble. It'll only be a savvy one if it pans out in his favor.

TheSkeletonMan939 08-30-2017 01:22 PM

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Originally Posted by plastroncafe (Post 1710536)
If Ghost in the Shell, or The Last Airbender, had been better movies in general the outrage would have been easily forgotten.

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Originally Posted by plastroncafe (Post 1710536)
this is what cultural shifts look like.

I don't understand.

plastroncafe 08-30-2017 01:52 PM

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Originally Posted by TheSkeletonMan939 (Post 1710538)
I don't understand.

I'm saying Hollywood has a selective memory, but the public does not.
What people are dismissing as Twitter Outrage isn't anything new. It's always been there. What's changed is that now people are paying attention to it.

Allio 08-30-2017 01:55 PM

but when films like Ring or Edge of Tomorrow does it, the internet doesn't care.

Sumac 08-30-2017 01:58 PM

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Originally Posted by TheSkeletonMan939 (Post 1710531)
GitS was of course a hackwork film that alienated a lot of its potential audience in several ways, but ScarJo's casting was a big turn-off to everyone.

I think it is an overstatement - GITS, while famous to certain degree, is nowhere near some kind of "universally super known property" for majority of the people to care who is playing the main character.
I am pretty sure, that it lackluster box-office more tied to the quality of the movie itself, rather any other factors.

Andrew NDB 08-30-2017 02:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Sumac (Post 1710543)
I think it is an overstatement - GITS, while famous to certain degree, is nowhere near some kind of "universally super known property" for majority of the people to care who is playing the main character.
I am pretty sure, that it lackluster box-office more tied to the quality of the movie itself, rather any other factors.

All of this is correct, in the instance of GITS. I almost undoubtedly would have gone and seen it myself if it didn't look like a soft, PG-13 hackjob.


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