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GoldMutant 05-22-2017 07:46 PM

Manchester Bombings at Ariana Grande Concert
 
http://www.nbcnews.com/news/world/de...turing-n763286

As of this time, 19 are dead. If more news comes up on the situation, it'll be updated.

Cure 05-22-2017 07:51 PM

Man, what the ****?

snake 05-22-2017 08:13 PM

Damn. I wonder who could be behind this one.

mrmaczaps 05-22-2017 08:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by snake (Post 1684354)
Damn. I wonder who could be behind this one.

Really? You have to wonder?

Refractive Reflections 05-22-2017 11:06 PM

My sympathies to those directly affected, but if it turns out to be radical Islamic terrorism, knowing today's political correctness, nothing will change.

The elected leaders (i.e. Sadiq Khan [London's mayor], and France's newly elected president, Emmanuel Marcon), have repeatedly told us to accept this.

PApagreg 05-22-2017 11:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Refractive Reflections (Post 1684377)
My sympathies to those directly affected, but if it turns out to be radical Islamic terrorism, knowing today's political correctness, nothing will change.

The elected leaders (i.e. Sadiq Khan [London's mayor], and France's newly elected president, Emmanuel Marcon), have repeatedly told us to accept this.

How do you go from a terrorist attack in London to a president in France, like at least focus on one country before you spread your salt on France's newly elected president.

IndigoErth 05-23-2017 12:17 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Refractive Reflections (Post 1684377)
The elected leaders...have repeatedly told us to accept this.

Are there source examples of this being said?




Seriously though... at a concert prob full of teens? :( What nut jobs won't do... I hope those that died never knew what hit them.

Just crying "Muslims!" really isn't enough... People are so apt to do it and point blame elsewhere, but it accomplishes nothing. The focus should be on stemming radicalism in all its forms and aligning with allies who share a want for it to end...including non-extremist Muslims who need to step up more (soldiers already literally fighting them in combat aside). Rather than just taking the easy route that doesn't require hard work and shouting about how it's supposedly a political party's fault, what if the good part of the world instead tries to figure out what to do rather than wasting time with infighting.

plastroncafe 05-23-2017 12:32 AM

If there's one thing you can count on, it's that desperate people will resort to desperate measures.

Vicky82 05-23-2017 12:55 AM

I woke up to the news and at first I thought it was a gas explosion. I just like to know how they got a bomb into the arena because security is supposed to be tight at events.:(

turtle1237 05-23-2017 01:45 AM

Ariana Grande is class all the way. This is unacceptable. RIP to the victims.

mrmaczaps 05-23-2017 06:33 AM

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Originally Posted by turtle1237 (Post 1684392)
Ariana Grande is class all the way. This is unacceptable. RIP to the victims.

Hahaha class??

turtle1237 05-23-2017 06:37 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mrmaczaps (Post 1684408)
Hahaha class??

she all ready made a comment on the attack. Ariana Grande said nothing wrong or out of place.

There is a difference between loving or hating her music and showing what she show.

BubblyShell22 05-23-2017 07:06 AM

This is so horrible on so many levels. My heart goes out to all of the victims and their loved ones who have been affected by this horrible event. My heart also goes out to Ariana as I can imagine this is just as traumatic for her.

I agree with you, Indigo, that everyone needs to step up and really show what is and isn't acceptable. But the sad thing is that this type of war will never end no matter what we do.

Original TMNT Cartoon Fan 05-23-2017 08:51 AM

22
 
At least 22 confirmed dead now

DestronMirage22 05-23-2017 08:55 AM

Oh man this is terrible.
I can only imagine what those poor kids are going through right now.
They only wanted to see their favorite musician perform and then something like this had to happen.
My heart goes out to the victims families.

Vicky82 05-23-2017 08:58 AM

The youngest that died in the attack was 8 years old. :(

CylonsKlingonsDaleksOhMy 05-23-2017 09:38 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Vicky82 (Post 1684446)
The youngest that died in the attack was 8 years old. :(

Quote:

Originally Posted by mrmaczaps (Post 1684408)
Hahaha class??

What next? You gonna tell us the 8-yr-old is going to hell for going to a Ariana Grande concert?

I swear, you have all the empathy of a trainwreck or an orphanage fire.

mrmaczaps 05-23-2017 10:27 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CylonsKlingonsDaleksOhMy (Post 1684449)
What next? You gonna tell us the 8-yr-old is going to hell for going to a Ariana Grande concert?

I swear, you have all the empathy of a trainwreck or an orphanage fire.

I never said a word about the concert goers... but to say a singer has class that has made past remarks that she hates her fans, America and wishes them all dead.... theres no class there. Shes just in it for the money, for herself.

Mayhem 05-23-2017 10:30 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Vicky82 (Post 1684388)
I woke up to the news and at first I thought it was a gas explosion. I just like to know how they got a bomb into the arena because security is supposed to be tight at events.:(

They didn't. The bomb was detonated inside the building but outside of the actual arena area itself. Security is normally carried out on people entering the seating areas of the venue, but not always the foyer parts where the restaurants and other meeting points might be. Same applies to the O2 Arena in Greenwich, you only get searched when you are entering the seating areas. Seems the person in question managed to enter the outer ring of the venue and triggered the bomb as people were exiting the actual arena into the hub.

Vicky82 05-23-2017 10:37 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mayhem (Post 1684460)
They didn't. The bomb was detonated inside the building but outside of the actual arena area itself. Security is normally carried out on people entering the seating areas of the venue, but not always the foyer parts where the restaurants and other meeting points might be. Same applies to the O2 Arena in Greenwich, you only get searched when you are entering the seating areas. Seems the person in question managed to enter the outer ring of the venue and triggered the bomb as people were exiting the actual arena into the hub.

Thanks for that, I've never been to the MEN arena, only the NEC arena in Birmingham and Wembly Arena and they check your tickets and bags at the first door.

plastroncafe 05-23-2017 12:08 PM

You can tell a lot about a person by how they treat those with less power than themselves.

I haven't had the heart to check yet, but have they caught the folks responsible for this incident?

Vicky82 05-23-2017 12:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by plastroncafe (Post 1684476)
You can tell a lot about a person by how they treat those with less power than themselves.

I haven't had the heart to check yet, but have they caught the folks responsible for this incident?

It was a suicide Bomber (british born) who acted alone and ISIS have claimed responsibility for it.

plastroncafe 05-23-2017 12:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Vicky82 (Post 1684479)
It was a suicide Bomber (british born) who acted alone and ISIS have claimed responsibility for it.

So...another case of dudes with crap politics ruining something little girls love.
Fabulous.

Prowler 05-23-2017 01:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by snake (Post 1684354)
Damn. I wonder who could be behind this one.

Yeah... but Daesh claim everything nowadays even if most of the time it's just a wacko acting on his own personal reasons.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Refractive Reflections (Post 1684377)
My sympathies to those directly affected, but if it turns out to be radical Islamic terrorism, knowing today's political correctness, nothing will change.

The elected leaders (i.e. Sadiq Khan [London's mayor], and France's newly elected president, Emmanuel Marcon), have repeatedly told us to accept this.

European leaders indeed haven't been dealing very well with terrorism and other issues. And also, maybe certain western nations should stop messing around in the Middle East. They're just adding more fuel to the fire.

Quote:

Originally Posted by mrmaczaps (Post 1684408)
Hahaha class??

I don't know anything about Arianna Grande or what her personality is like or if she has class or not... but why does this matter right now? A bunch of innocent people, mostly teenagers, died or got severely injured at a concert. It's almost like you're making it sound like they deserved this and that Arianna Grande should have gotten hurt as well. What the hell is wrong with you?!

Andrew NDB 05-23-2017 01:29 PM

Salman Ramadan Abedi, son of Libyan refugees. That's the suicide bomber.

Netkeeper 05-23-2017 01:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by PApagreg (Post 1684378)
How do you go from a terrorist attack in London to a President in France, like at least focus on one country before you spread your salt on France's newly elected President.

Seriously, we're really not in a position to be giving France **** right now when they did what we couldn't.

Quote:

Originally Posted by mrmaczaps (Post 1684408)
Hahaha class??

Seriously, can we not do this? Your personal feelings about the singer have no place in a discussion about a tragedy. You should be ashamed of yourself right now.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Prowler (Post 1684492)
I don't know anything about Arianna Grande or what her personality is like or if she has class or not... but why does this matter right now? A bunch of innocent people, mostly teenagers, died or got severely injured at a concert. It's almost like you're making it sound like they deserved this and that Arianna Grande should have gotten hurt as well. What the hell is wrong with you?!

Quoting for extra emphasis.

IndigoErth 05-23-2017 02:05 PM

I really wouldn't want to be the singer right now. How soon is her next show? Can you imagine having this in the back of your mind, maybe a little PTSD from the event, when trying to put on that next show(s)? Worrying what if it could ever happen again would suck; thinking that if it did, then fans might die for coming to see you. :ohwell:

Vicky82 05-23-2017 02:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by IndigoErth (Post 1684528)
I really wouldn't want to be the singer right now. How soon is her next show? Can you imagine having this in the back of your mind, maybe a little PTSD from the event, when trying to put on that next show(s)? Worrying what if it could ever happen again would suck; thinking that if it did, then fans might die for coming to see you. :ohwell:

I think she's meant to be in London tomorrow but she's cancelled/postponed the rest of her European tour.

plastroncafe 05-23-2017 02:42 PM

And all this right before a big UK election.
Hooray for the Positive Feedback Loop of Extremism!

CylonsKlingonsDaleksOhMy 05-23-2017 02:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by plastroncafe (Post 1684548)
And all this right before a big UK election.
Hooray for the Positive Feedback Loop of Extremism!

Ugh. Didn't even think of that.

At this point, it's hard to think of some part of society that HASN'T been defiled by terrorist violence.

K-12 Schools? Nope.
Colleges/universities? Nope.
Nightclubs? Nope.
Movie theaters? Nope.
Concerts? Nope.

Just off the top of my head. As a parent, what the hell do you even do... Mars isn't colonizing for decades from now. :trazz:

mrmaczaps 05-23-2017 03:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Prowler (Post 1684492)
I don't know anything about Arianna Grande or what her personality is like or if she has class or not... but why does this matter right now? A bunch of innocent people, mostly teenagers, died or got severely injured at a concert. It's almost like you're making it sound like they deserved this and that Arianna Grande should have gotten hurt as well. What the hell is wrong with you?!

Just a few years back, this singer was caught saying into a live mic that she hates her fans & wishes they were dead.... So it has a bit to do with this... She also hates America and Americans... Seems her hate is misplaced I would say.

CylonsKlingonsDaleksOhMy 05-23-2017 03:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mrmaczaps (Post 1684560)
Just a few years back, this singer was caught saying into a live mic that she hates her fans & wishes they were dead.... So it has a bit to do with this... She also hates America and Americans... Seems her hate is misplaced I would say.

You wanna talk crap about the artist, go start a different thread. This isn't about her.

plastroncafe 05-23-2017 03:07 PM

Let's put that accusation in some context.

Quote:

An industry insider told the New York Daily News: 'She did autographs and pics and was all smiles until she got into the elevator

'And as soon as the doors shut she said, "I hope they all f***ing die."'
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz...f-ing-die.html
Huh, sounds like hyperbole.

Quote:

Ariana Grande, who has canceled her Saturday MLB All-Star Concert performance because she had some wisdom teeth removed Monday, went off on the Fourth of July at a doughnut shop about how she hates Americans and hates America.
http://www.latimes.com/entertainment...51108-157.html

Weird, she says this right after a woman in a bake shop puts a huge tray of fattening pastries in front of her face, not long after she'd had dental surgery.

That sounds like hyperbole too.

Why are you so triggered, Zaps?
Oh right, because the Briebart Crowd are doing their best to play this attack as a political act.
To victim blame.
Charming.

IndigoErth 05-23-2017 03:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CylonsKlingonsDaleksOhMy (Post 1684558)
Mars isn't colonizing for decades from now. :trazz:

That's okay, it doesn't need to be colonized for us to send terrorists/extremists there. We can do it sooner that way. lol

BubblyShell22 05-23-2017 03:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mrmaczaps (Post 1684560)
Just a few years back, this singer was caught saying into a live mic that she hates her fans & wishes they were dead.... So it has a bit to do with this... She also hates America and Americans... Seems her hate is misplaced I would say.

Dude, who cares what she did in the past? Have a little respect for her because I can't imagine what she's going through right now. You say you hate Muslims, so you really need to look in a mirror before you judge what other people say.

Papenbrook 05-23-2017 03:23 PM

The accumulation of hatred and division is inevitably overwhelming.

I know that humans have flaws, but when I view said flaws in action, it makes me sick to my stomach. Social media doesn't help, as it only enhances those blemishes. In this thread, we are witnessing the very hatred and division that occurs every day. It's disappointing.

I can only hope that humankind will improve itself.

Netkeeper 05-23-2017 03:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by plastroncafe (Post 1684565)

Well, it is Faily Mail

That was a typo but I'm not correcting it

snake 05-23-2017 03:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Papenbrook (Post 1684581)

I can only hope that humankind will improve itself.

You gotta start somehow. I, personally, have a few ideas.

plastroncafe 05-23-2017 03:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Netkeeper (Post 1684583)
Well, it is Faily Mail

That was a typo but I'm not correcting it

I don't know that it IS a typo.
Does it count as one if it's still factually correct?
;)

Vicky82 05-23-2017 03:42 PM

Saw this on Facebook, look at the dates of past and today's attacks.

Coincidence??

Quote:

22-05-13 lee rigby
22-03-16 Brussels attack
22-07-16 Munich attack
22-03-17 London attack
22-05-17 Manchester attack
22-07-17 ???
Just been announced that the UK's terror threat level has been raised from 'severe' to 'critical'.


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