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Autbot_Benz 06-04-2017 05:24 PM

Dan Akyord Critizes Paul Feig blames him for the failure of the Ghostbuster reboot
 
Ghostbusters was neither a critical nor commercial hit last year, so it was far from surprising when we learned that a sequel isn't on the way. The performance of the movie has also ruined any chances of those planned spinoffs happening too, one of which was reportedly going to feature a male team and another that would have been animated and seemingly aimed at a slightly younger audience.

It's no wonder then that executive producer Dan Akroyd - who was one of those tasked with spearheading a shared Ghostbusters Universe - isn't happy then, something he made clear in a recent interview on UK TV show Sunday Brunch. Asked to share his thoughts on what's next for the franchise, the star and co-writer of the original laid the blame squarely at the feet of reboot director Paul Feig.

"[Ghostbusters] made a lot of money around the world but just cost too much, making it economically not feasible to do another one. So that’s too bad. The director, he spent too much on it. He didn’t shoot scenes we suggested to him and several scenes that were going to be needed and he said, ‘Nah, we don’t need them.’ Then we tested the movie and they needed them and he had to go back. About $30 to $40-million in reshoots. So he will not be back on the Sony lot any time soon."


Ouch! Interestingly, subsequent broadcasts of the show have seen Akroyd's comments edited out, a result perhaps of his representatives requesting that they be removed given how much of a stir they're inevitably going to cause. The damage has been done now, though, and it will be interesting to see what happens next. In fairness to Akroyd, it doesn't sound like he's being too unfair! Thoughts?

https://www.comicbookmovie.com/horro...e-soon-a151580

Andrew NDB 06-04-2017 05:30 PM

I wonder what the reshoots were.

Shark_Blade 06-04-2017 07:47 PM

Yeah it could've been better though I still find it mildly entertaining.

THGhost 06-04-2017 07:59 PM

And there I was thinking it was more the writing and the marketing that were to blame. Dayum.

raph27 06-04-2017 09:31 PM

Yikes. Wasn't Dan one of the most vocal supporters of this back when it came out? Almost makes one wonder if he was paid off. (I had my suspicions about Hudson last year, and now things are just seeming really shady.)

Wildcat 06-04-2017 10:33 PM

I wonder what the least amount of money could have been to make it.

sdp 06-05-2017 12:12 AM

Ghostbusters is one of his greatest achievements, of course he's going to shill for it and is only backtracking now because it's what would get him the most support. I don't judge him for it but it's pretty obvious why he would do it.

I half watched this movie while on a plane and it's nothing special but boy is it not the worst pile of crap ever made like people online made it out to be. Poor planning, if it had been a new generation of GBs instead of a reboot I don't think it would've gotten anywhere near the hate that it got in the end.

Andrew NDB 06-05-2017 12:19 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sdp (Post 1687877)
Ghostbusters is one of his greatest achievements, of course he's going to shill for it and is only backtracking now because it's what would get him the most support.

What are you talking about? He's been the one guy pushing for GB3 for like 20 years now. He's the only one of those cats that's actually talking straight up now and you want to call him out on it?

Wildcat 06-05-2017 12:42 AM

Well he's not backtracking. I'm seeing people are trying to twist his words to say he dislikes the movie. As if we can't see the actual video. He's upset Feig wasted money.

I agree connecting it to the originals would have helped. That was my only complaint because it would have been very easy to do.

Vegita-San 06-05-2017 02:13 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by raph27 (Post 1687859)
Yikes. Wasn't Dan one of the most vocal supporters of this back when it came out? Almost makes one wonder if he was paid off. (I had my suspicions about Hudson last year, and now things are just seeming really shady.)

Hudson was muzzled. his honest tweet that this was abad idea was replaced almost instantly with a pre written sony agenda one. it was sadly hillarious.


the way this article states, i was expecting dan to come out and apologize for how he acted, and truly blasting feig for being horrible.

this was nothing harsh. although maybe all he might be wiling to admit.

Vegita-San 06-05-2017 02:15 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Andrew NDB (Post 1687880)
What are you talking about? He's been the one guy pushing for GB3 for like 20 years now. He's the only one of those cats that's actually talking straight up now and you want to call him out on it?

he's back tracking.


pure and simple.

Dan did a COMPLETE 180 if you read the sony emails and totally shilled for it.
true, it's his baby, but he went too far with it and went into feig territory.

Hudson, and the rest of the cast apart from murray CLEARLY hated the idea. even annie potts.

Wildcat 06-05-2017 03:57 AM

It's funny that people like to bring up the leaked emails. Because every time they're re-described totally out of context.

In short Sony did not want to do Ivan Reitman's GB3 idea. They eventually convinced him to step down and wrote that letter for him. In the deal they agreed to create GhostCorps.

Dan Aykroyd never appears to be outright against the movie (or shilling) in any email I've seen. There's one that says he was "tweeked", I assume because it's a reboot and not a sequel, but decided to go along.

Bill Murray was not legally forced to join. There was a rumor that Sony made a loophole that he could only refuse limited times before his rights got voided.

Keep in mind this was like 2 years before the reboot. There was multiple ideas and probably scripts (one did leak). There's a summary available if you google it.

This is the best compilation of GB emails. I read these a couple years ago.
http://www.gbfans.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=39324

Vegita-San 06-05-2017 05:49 AM

i wouldn't trust anything from GBFans if you paid me.

that's a fan boys paradise of Feigbuster Apologists.
anyone who doesn't agree with that viewpoint gets shut up pretty fast.

rather sad.

Autbot_Benz 06-05-2017 10:43 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Vegita-San (Post 1687901)
i wouldn't trust anything from GBFans if you paid me.

that's a fan boys paradise of Feigbuster Apologists.
anyone who doesn't agree with that viewpoint gets shut up pretty fast.

rather sad.

Ghostbustersnews.com is just as bad they never post anything that could be seen as negative and there are a lot of feigbuster apologists there too

Vegita-San 06-05-2017 11:08 AM

Proton charging is also hillariously sad.

the dude claims to be open minded, then blasts just about everyone who doesn't like the movie, and then only recinds it when he gets caught trashing a lady who disliked it. the comic book girl trashing post got removed hilariously fast ;o)

sad. i rather enjoyed that site before the dark times.

Andrew NDB 06-05-2017 03:13 PM

Aykroyd posted this on his FB four hours ago:

"Paul Feig made a good movie and had a superb cast and plenty of money to do it. We just wish he had been more inclusive to the originators. It cost everyone as it is unlikely Kristen, Leslie, Melissa and Kate will ever reprise their roles as Ghostbusters which is sad."

Spike Spiegel 06-05-2017 03:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Andrew NDB (Post 1688004)
Aykroyd posted this on his FB four hours ago:

"Paul Feig made a good movie and had a superb cast and plenty of money to do it. We just wish he had been more inclusive to the originators. It cost everyone as it is unlikely Kristen, Leslie, Melissa and Kate will ever reprise their roles as Ghostbusters which is sad."

In retrospect, they had a good cast and great new weapon designs, along with the money and tech to do things on-screen they would have only dreamed of in the '80s.

All they were really missing was a script...and a legitimately scary villain. They were never going to eclipse the original, but the characters are so bland and unlikable that I can't even see ATC as a guilty pleasure or a cult film.

Vegita-San 06-05-2017 03:23 PM

aykroyd is such a cheerleader, they probably brain washed him into thinking this was a good idea. the b rain washing is slowly beginning to wear off, and the pre feig, gb 3 gung ho dan is starting to re emerge.

Autbot_Benz 06-05-2017 05:16 PM

That reaction you have when fiegbusters 2 Probably won't happen

http://i.imgur.com/dvBCtOV.gif

Andrew NDB 06-05-2017 05:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Autbot_Benz (Post 1688023)
That reaction you have when fiegbusters 2 Probably won't happen

It's not even a "probably." It's "no chance in Hell," but we knew that already.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Spike Spiegel (Post 1688007)
In retrospect, they had a good cast and great new weapon designs, along with the money and tech to do things on-screen they would have only dreamed of in the '80s.

All they were really missing was a script...and a legitimately scary villain.

You mean this guy wasn't scary?

http://www.indiewire.com/wp-content/...hort.jpg?w=780

Vegita-San 06-05-2017 05:57 PM

i'm surprised they even let aykroyd post on his FB page. i think they had his people delete the last two posts.and i think one was still wishing for a gb 3.

ToTheNines 06-05-2017 06:33 PM

It made peanuts, didn't move merch and Sony is letting IDW integrate the characters into their universe (which has been awesome). Pretty obvious there would never be a sequel.

Vegita-San 06-05-2017 06:37 PM

against my better judgment, i bought 101 1 and 2.

it feels like two different stories and the feigbusters are add ons..

the stand alone story about the regular ghostbusters is awesome as always. even idw can't make the feigbusters likeable as it's filled with the same drab attempts at insulting 'humor'.

ToTheNines 06-05-2017 06:59 PM

It's a 6 parter, and I felt like they dawdled with the first 2 issues, but the 2 teams finally met in #3. I think it's great. Hopefully this isn't the last volume they run.

Wildcat 06-05-2017 10:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Vegita-San (Post 1687901)
i wouldn't trust anything from GBFans if you paid me.

that's a fan boys paradise of Feigbuster Apologists.
anyone who doesn't agree with that viewpoint gets shut up pretty fast.

rather sad.

I agree the fan forums for GB are pretty bad. I used one many years ago but the emails posted are the actual leaked emails. Theres no disputing those links. They're direct to Wikileaks.

Xav 06-05-2017 11:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ToTheNines (Post 1688033)
It made peanuts, didn't move merch and Sony is letting IDW integrate the characters into their universe (which has been awesome).

230 million dollars is peanuts?

Andrew NDB 06-06-2017 01:19 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Xav (Post 1688069)
230 million dollars is peanuts?

ToTheNines is actually being overly charitable. GB remake lost a ton of money. About 30 million, as I recall. Probably more. Not factoring for DVD/blu-ray/on-demand kind of money, but that's not going to (and didn't) right the ship.

Wildcat 06-06-2017 02:27 AM

I was thinking and even though the movie underperformed it's already made back its budget and more so. Why is Dan saying this now?

Sony released a statement that reshoots were only around $4 million. The $30-40 that Dan said did sound pretty outrageous. That'd would mean the budget was around $100 and everything else was just reshoots.

I feel like he's probably more upset with how Feig handled things. He said he didn't take advice. Maybe he just wanted to get it off his chest. I don't have a problem with that. I think he's always been upset it was not a part 3.

I still don't see how doing another movie is "economically not feasible". Not in the the immediate future but a little further down the line there's bound to be another GB. It can't be 20+ years again :lol:

ToTheNines 06-06-2017 04:26 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Xav (Post 1688069)
230 million dollars is peanuts?

Shut up, dumbass.

Vegita-San 06-06-2017 09:41 AM

i'm ashamed it even made that much. die hard ghostbuster fans must have alot of free time on their hands because no one else was seeing the movie after the first two weeks.

Xav 06-06-2017 11:28 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ToTheNines (Post 1688090)
Shut up, dumbass.

What the hell is your problem?

Andrew NDB 06-07-2017 04:11 PM

http://bloody-disgusting.com/news/34...something-fun/

I wonder what is being revealed tomorrow? Is he unveiling the technology to erase Ghosbusters 2016 from history? That would be nice.

Vegita-San 06-07-2017 06:41 PM

hy the hell is feig still being associated with the brand if he's barred from the sony lot?

sigh..

Autbot_Benz 06-07-2017 07:54 PM

I am surprised they are letting Paul Fieg do anything ghostbuster related after the failure of his movie.

Spike Spiegel 06-07-2017 08:31 PM

I sure wish he was unveiling the extended cut of the '84 film (a bunch of lost footage has recently been found, including more Bill Murray stuff and a sequence with Ray and Winston that was used for the "ghost blowjob" joke in the montage).

TheSkeletonMan939 06-07-2017 08:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Spike Spiegel (Post 1688529)
I sure wish he was unveiling the extended cut of the '84 film (a bunch of lost footage has recently been found, including more Bill Murray stuff and a sequence with Ray and Winston that was used for the "ghost blowjob" joke in the montage).

That's probably not a good thing to put out right after the new one failed. Give it a few years though; maybe we'll get something.

ProactiveMan 06-08-2017 03:21 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Spike Spiegel (Post 1688529)
I sure wish he was unveiling the extended cut of the '84 film (a bunch of lost footage has recently been found, including more Bill Murray stuff and a sequence with Ray and Winston that was used for the "ghost blowjob" joke in the montage).

Leave it out. The first DVD release had a load of deleted scenes on it and believe me, they were cut out for a reason.

TigerClaw 06-08-2017 10:22 AM

They are doing a live Q&A with Ernie Hudson and Ivan Reitman on Facebook Live, and then they will premiere a trailer for Ghostbusters VR Act 2: Showdown
https://twitter.com/Ghostbusters/sta...45684621193216

Tune in TODAY at 11am PST on the Super News Live Facebook page for a live Q&A! You don’t want to miss it! #GhostbustersLive #Ghostbusters

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DBqOr0_UQAAjpW1.jpg:small

Andrew NDB 06-08-2017 11:02 AM

wtf is "Ghostbusters VR Act 2"? And I'm assuming none of this has anything to do with what Feig alluded to?

TigerClaw 06-08-2017 11:14 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Andrew NDB (Post 1688608)
wtf is "Ghostbusters VR Act 2"? And I'm assuming none of this has anything to do with what Feig alluded to?

I think it is.


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