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Krutch 06-06-2017 01:14 PM

VR Gaming
 
I could have sworn I made a thread about this already but I couldn't find it, so... I guess not?

Figured I'd start a thread to see who's been playing what in VR and what their thoughts are on it. (As well as, inevitably, comments from the crowd that just hates VR :lol: )

I finally got around to picking up Resident Evil Biohazard on PSVR. Wow. Honestly, it's the most immersive and fine tuned VR experience I've had to date. Yes, it definitely helps that its a full fledged game and yes, its a AAA developer behind the wheel. I'm picking up Farpoint after work tonight. Looking forward to seeing how the Aim Controller handles. I've heard good things.

DestronMirage22 06-06-2017 02:49 PM

I don't think VR will ever really catch on. Too expensive and the market for these games isn't really there.

Plus, you look like a tool standing there in your room with those silly headsets on.

Long live console gaming!!

sdp 06-06-2017 06:16 PM

Console gaming is dying though, it's all going to switch to a chromecast/roku type device and streamed in the future.


VR will of course catch on, it's indeed too expensive right now but all technology gets cheaper. HTC is releasing a phone/computerless VR headset this fall. That's where things are going. Does it look goofy? Sure but not if you're playing. Selfie sticks are goofy but people actually use them.

VR is a very exciting future technology and the naysayers will eventually be proven wrong. It'll take a while but I think in ten years VR will be as readily available as smartphones today. VR is more than gaming, in fact I have a VR start up called Wear Vear and I'm really excited, not because right now it's the thing but because it will be the thing.

As far as gaming, I really like it, it's really immersive and fun, it has a few problems, for example I actually want to move physically and it's odd to move with a controller and because of space/safety/technology no game will ever let you walk around it unless it's a huge stage designed only for VR, it's also weird when you look down and can't see yourself. But it's awesome and we'll be seeing more of it in down the line.

Turo602 06-06-2017 07:43 PM

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Originally Posted by sdp (Post 1688254)
Console gaming is dying though, it's all going to switch to a chromecast/roku type device and streamed in the future.


VR will of course catch on, it's indeed too expensive right now but all technology gets cheaper. HTC is releasing a phone/computerless VR headset this fall. That's where things are going. Does it look goofy? Sure but not if you're playing. Selfie sticks are goofy but people actually use them.

VR is a very exciting future technology and the naysayers will eventually be proven wrong. It'll take a while but I think in ten years VR will be as readily available as smartphones today. VR is more than gaming, in fact I have a VR start up called Wear Vear and I'm really excited, not because right now it's the thing but because it will be the thing.

As far as gaming, I really like it, it's really immersive and fun, it has a few problems, for example I actually want to move physically and it's odd to move with a controller and because of space/safety/technology no game will ever let you walk around it unless it's a huge stage designed only for VR, it's also weird when you look down and can't see yourself. But it's awesome and we'll be seeing more of it in down the line.

I bet you thought mobile was taking over console gaming too.

sdp 06-06-2017 09:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Turo602 (Post 1688267)
I bet you thought mobile was taking over console gaming too.

I did, and I was right.

Turo602 06-06-2017 10:10 PM

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Originally Posted by sdp (Post 1688285)
I did, and I was right.

LMAO! Keep thinking you are.

sdp 06-06-2017 10:20 PM

How am I exactly wrong?
Mobile revenues keep growing and are outdoing console revenues.

Now you use the term take over which I never used, what exactly do you mean by that? That it'll completely eliminate console gaming? Of course not, that's not going to happen for many years but it will. Console gaming is not growing, it's actually shrinking and it'll continue to shrink.

Now I know as a gamer you might want to take this personal, but it's not. It's just business, I have nothing against console gaming, I love it. Will console gaming ever really seize to exist? I doubt it, it'll always be a niche, but it's foolish to imply that I'm wrong when we can see where the trends are going.

VR is not going to "take over" console gaming either, but it'll be something people are going to be using for a lot of things besides gaming. You might not like VR or mobile gaming but that's fine, it doesn't mean that mobile isn't growing and console gaming shrinking.

If you were to ask "will PS VR replace console gaming this gen?" Then yeah the answer is a big no but It's not even something unprecedented to say that console gaming as we know it today is dying. Talk to any analyst, talk to me about it, I get paid for a living for pointing out trends that I see in the market, I'm not an armchair analyst.

Utrommaniac 06-06-2017 10:29 PM

I do VR at my boyfriend's place sometimes. I quite like playing Wayward Sky, and I really think they could do some expansion on first person games.

For one, I think a Myst-type game on VR would be the best.

The biggest problem I have is that the visor makes my head itchy...

Krutch 06-07-2017 05:30 PM

I love console gaming and hope it never goes away, but... realistically, yeah, it's not going to be around much longer. At least not in the way they're doing it now. And that's not to be misinterpreted as if to say VR will replace it; they're two different animals on two different paths.

VR is exciting right now because it only takes a few moments to realize the potential in it. And there's a lot of legwork to go before VR really begins to find its footing in how to control within it's limitations. But as far as immersion goes, there's no comparison. And as technology only improves, people who have problems with it's resolution and bulky headsets will have their criticisms answered.

Resident Evil was fan-frickin'-tastic, but even I could see the shortcomings it has (like every game does on every console, for that matter).

Give it time. VR isn't going anywhere. It might not figure out what it wants to be for another 10 years or so, but it's here to stay, even if we have to wait through it's growing pains in the foreseeable future.

TigerClaw 06-07-2017 05:59 PM

You should check out Star Trek Bridge Crew, Its a VR game where you can play one of 4 positions, it has single player and coop, but its much better in coop.

Wildcat 06-07-2017 11:39 PM

I love VR...but I have never used. Not even on smartphones. I'm not purposely avoiding it I just haven't gotten to try it.

It's something I always wanted. Now that it actually exists in a legitimate format makes me very happy.

Naysayers are just trying to be "cool" writing it off as a fad. The technology will only get better and more affordable. Not saying it will fully replace standard gaming but it's finally here to stay.

Krutch 06-09-2017 10:58 AM

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Originally Posted by TigerClaw (Post 1688485)
You should check out Star Trek Bridge Crew, Its a VR game where you can play one of 4 positions, it has single player and coop, but its much better in coop.

I'm gonna pick that up next week once the company i have staying over is gone. Can't wait.

I only played around with Farpoint for about 40 minutes but i loved the feel of the PS Aim Controller. Adds a whole new level of immersion.

oldmanwinters 06-10-2017 10:39 PM

A local Wal-mart sells some kinda VR headset for about $17. I've never taken a serious look at the tech, but I'm assuming all VR devices aren't created equal. So how much does the experience vary depending on the quality of the device?

Krutch 06-12-2017 11:13 AM

The $17 one I have to assume connects to your smartphone, where you then can download different VR apps and try them out.

They're not the same thing as PS VR/Occulus. Neat for the price, sure, but not the same.

As far as the differences go, I've used both Occulus and PSVR and while the Occulus definitely has a cleaner image and stronger processing power, the PSVR isn't a big dip in quality by any means.

The Deadman 06-12-2017 04:24 PM

Console gaming definitely isnt dying.

Krutch 06-26-2017 12:20 PM

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Originally Posted by The Deadman (Post 1689515)
Console gaming definitely isnt dying.

No, but it'll change greatly in the next coming years. To a point where it won't really be what we consider to be traditional console gaming.

Finally finished Farpoint; loved it! Had a slow start but the second half of the game ramped up the intensity. Had a surprisingly human story too, which I definitely appreciated.

Can't wait for the next game that really utilizes the Aim Controller. Any excuse to use that thing again is a win for me.

I picked up Star Trek Bridge Crew and played about 4 games. Its hilarious fun but I'm having a bit of a hard time wrapping my head around the different positions. Maybe I need to play it more than once every few days for an hour to let it really sink in.

Krutch 09-05-2017 04:17 PM

Can't believe it's almost been a year since the PSVR launch.

Here's my takeaway from the first year:

-There's still a long road ahead, but developers are quickly learning what works and what doesn't work. Hopefully they'll lock down some form of pricing on these things though. Some titles are 1 hour and cost 40 bucks while others are endless, have more content, and 3 bucks.

-I find that VR is my preferred way of gaming. If a game doesn't have VR included, my interest plummet quite a bit.

-That being said, VR gaming is still more of a "thing" to do as opposed to a leisurely gaming night. When I come home exhausted from work, pulling out the table to make space and strapping on a headset isn't exactly what I'd call relaxing. VR isn't for unwinding, basically. It's too immersive to just zone out and relax.

-The Aim Controller is fantastic and every developer working on a VR shooter should be utilizing it.

-The best part of owning one now is introducing it to people. There's just something about watching friends experience it for the first time that's just super satisfying.

-Despite the lack of a must-have exclusive VR title, I still think Year 1 was a strong debut year. There's a ton of great games out there and I'm still excited to see what new experiences the next year brings.

Prowler 09-06-2017 10:20 PM

Never having tried VR before, I've always been fascinated by the concept itself... but I dunno if it can be pulled off well in practice. They tried to do that in the 90s and things such as... the Virtual Boy came out as a result of it. It was too early for such technology to catch on.

Krutch 11-29-2017 07:45 PM

Been putting some time into Skyrim VR lately. I've never played an Elder Scrolls game before. Dear Lord this game is massive...

Andrew NDB 11-29-2017 10:07 PM

What are some games worth playing on Playstation VR?

ProphetofGanja 11-29-2017 10:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Krutch (Post 1731861)
Been putting some time into Skyrim VR lately. I've never played an Elder Scrolls game before. Dear Lord this game is massive...

Man I would totally lose myself in VR Skyrim

Andrew NDB 11-29-2017 10:48 PM

I've been waiting for a true fighting VR game. Imagine, like, Tekken VR or something.

sdp 11-30-2017 08:15 PM

Krutch nails it, VR is an experience and if you've only tried it for a little bit or cellphone VR it is not the same and leads to the "traditional" gamers saying it's a gimmick.

VR is more than gaming and all around awesome, can't wait to see where the tech is in 10 years from now.

Utrommaniac 11-30-2017 08:40 PM

Cellphone VR is still pretty freakin' cool, I think.

Krutch 12-05-2017 06:59 AM

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Originally Posted by Andrew NDB (Post 1731884)
I've been waiting for a true fighting VR game. Imagine, like, Tekken VR or something.

After playing Bloody Zombies, I'm game to try out anything thats side-scrolling in VR. It's such a difference maker.
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Originally Posted by sdp (Post 1732057)
VR is more than gaming and all around awesome, can't wait to see where the tech is in 10 years from now.

That's the exciting part. Getting into VR now is like seeing the first real steps of the technology. They're still toying around with what works, what doesn't, and making innovations all the time. I'm loving the journey. And yeah, beyong makingt the resolution better, it's crazy to think about what could be in another decade.
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Originally Posted by Utrommaniac (Post 1732062)
Cellphone VR is still pretty freakin' cool, I think.

It is, but it's still night and day to an actual VR system.

Ninjinister 12-06-2017 05:58 AM

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Originally Posted by Andrew NDB (Post 1731884)
I've been waiting for a true fighting VR game. Imagine, like, Tekken VR or something.

Tekken 7's VR mode was trash so I hope they don't decide to do it like that one again.

Krutch 12-06-2017 10:25 PM

That was marely a mode at all. That was actually insulting to include it at all.

TigerClaw 12-26-2017 07:59 PM

VR is no longer required to play Star Trek Bridge Crew, Ubisoft just released a patch, that will allow people who don't have a VR Headset to play the game without one on the PS4 and PC.
https://www.engadget.com/2017/12/26/...r-requires-vr/

sdp 12-15-2019 10:57 AM

I got an oculus quest recently and the tech has evolved so much it's amazing. Even though it's on par with the rift I used like 2 years ago, it's now completely wireless, easy as hell to set up and begin using and the QOL improvements are just outstanding.

It's already selling a ton and either the second or third generation quest (depending on how many leaps they make with each generation), is going to be the one that breaks VR into the mainstream.

Anyone else besides Krutch/Andrew also enjoying VR? It's been 2 years since this topic started so a lot has changed, back then when I wanted to try VR I had to set up stuff and cables everywhere, now I just put the headset on and don't worry about the rest :lol:

sdp 10-12-2020 01:34 PM

Oculus Quest 2 comes out tomorrow, cheaper pricing, wireless, no PC needed (but can use a PC), more powerful, tons of new games coming out, tons of games already out.
Mine already shipped, VR keeps getting better and better, hopefully more dromers jump on VR.

Spoiler:
Air Link allows the Oculus Quest to connect to PC to play full VR wirelessly, Resident Evil 4 getting remade for VR coming out this year, new Jurassic World game, star wars games etc. Can PSVR2 even compete with their tethered outdated solution? I only envy their halo strap. Social apps the most popular, VR will be mainstream in by the end of the decade.

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Andrew NDB 12-26-2023 05:41 PM

Got a PSVR2 for Christmas. Right off the bat, though... what the hell? The PS5 has ONE USBC slot, located in the front and that's it. And if you have an external drive for your PS5 (which of course you would because these games take tons of room and it's nice to have more than 4 installed at a time), you HAVE to have it plugged into the USBC slot. So where the f*** am I supposed to plug the PSVR2 into?

I tried USBC => USB adapters but the hard drive won't work with anything but the USBC port because none of the USB slots are fast enough. I tried the USBC => USB adapter for the PSVR2, but the PS5 says, "Please connect the PSVR2 directly to the USB." Which doesn't even make sense. The PSV2 doesn't HAVE a USB connection, it has a USBC connection. The only possible way to plug it into a USB slot would BE to use an adapter, which I did and that's the message I got.

So I guess you have to choose, external drive or play PSVR2. Pick 1. What a stupid, stupid design. Sony knows they only put one USBC slot on the PS5 but they pushed this out anyway. They should have just made the PSVR2 USB-based. There's no way there's THAT much data flying into the PS5 from it.

TigerClaw 12-26-2023 06:03 PM

I have a portable SSD plugged on the back and its working fine, Most of the PS4 games are on it.

Andrew NDB 12-26-2023 06:19 PM

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Originally Posted by TigerClaw (Post 1981956)
I have a portable SSD plugged on the back and its working fine, Most of the PS4 games are on it.

I wouldn't mind a hard drive just dedicated to PS4 games. But I'm guessing your SSD in the back will NOT work with PS5 games, yes? Mine in the front connected to the USBC does.

TigerClaw 12-26-2023 07:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Andrew NDB (Post 1981959)
I wouldn't mind a hard drive just dedicated to PS4 games. But I'm guessing your SSD in the back will NOT work with PS5 games, yes? Mine in the front connected to the USBC does.

You can store PS5 games on an external drive, But you can not play directly from them, You would have to move then over to the internal storage, PS5 games require the internal storage because its much faster storage then an external, PS4 games will run on an external, Be it an HDD or SSD, But I recommend a portable SSD for faster load times.

I have one of those portable Seagate 1tb SSDs.

The PS5 supports installing an NVME SSD on the bottom, Its as fast as the internal storage, and its used to install PS5 games on it.

So if you run out of space on the internal, get an NVME SSD for extra storage capacity.

sdp 12-26-2023 08:01 PM

I got a Quest 3 when it released, so far so good, a very nice upgrade and love the AR/MR features. I got Asgaard's wrath 2, that game is a system seller if people give VR a chance.

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Originally Posted by Andrew NDB (Post 1981955)
They should have just made the PSVR2 USB-based. There's no way there's THAT much data flying into the PS5 from it.

it's the PS5 that's doing all the processing power so I'm guessing it's indeed necessary for it to be USB C.

By adapter do you mean a USBc Hub? because if not that might be the solution to have more than one USB c slot for your PS5. I actually haven't heard of this problem before I think I would've heard about it so I'm sure there's a more logical solution. Seems like a silly mistake for Sony to make but sometimes things like this happen.

Andrew NDB 12-27-2023 03:28 AM

Apparently a USBC hub wouldn't work because of diminished speed capacity. Whatever. I'm over it now. Yes, unplug the external SSD unless I want a slower one that plugs into the back in USB only. Gaahhh! :)

On the plus side, I did get to try Creed on PSVR2. Holy God. This is game changing. I played the original version on PSVR1 and this is like night and day. I just spent 2 hours sweating into my headset knocking out random people (I think they were small children, to be fair, since many were playing as Drago and seemed shorter than me) and it was amazingly fun. If you have space in your living room, the PSVR2 maps out your living room and shows you where you can go and not go. And it isn't beholden to a camera on top of the TV, the cameras are on your headset so you can whip around 360 like.

Andrew NDB 03-19-2024 01:08 AM

https://www.darkhorizons.com/sony-pa...r2-production/

Great. As all the posters there say, just come out with more quality games for it. There isn't anything for it. If you browse the PSVR2 library there is like nothing there that isn't just cheap nothing games.

I've had it since Christmas as a present but beyond playing the updated Creed game (which IS intense) there just isn't anything much else for it. A Walking Dead Saints & Sinners sequel, I guess.


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