Official Episode Discussion S5 Ep 05 & 6: When Worlds Collide
 

The Episode is up on ITunes.

Saw this pic on Twitter, so you can tell that When Worlds Collide was meant to air before the Monster Arc.

Airing before the monster arc also makes sense in the context of the theme song which shows Newtralizer after Zombie Shredder, Tiger Claw and Kavaxas.

Haven't seen the episode yet, but can't wait. We're also getting a new tmnt short tomorrow :)

Holy ****!!!!!

Mikey was awesome!!!!!! :o

So it looks like Mona Lisa is staying on Earth, sorry Mona Lisa haters. :lol:

Got any juicier spoilers? Like why Newtralizer wants to kill the Utroms?

I have to watch it again, But I think it was just a plan by Lord Dregg to follow Sal Commander and Mona Lisa (because they were going to earth to capture Newtralizer) to earth, so he can get his vengeance on the Turtles and invade earth.

Those were some really cool episodes! I liked it, was good to see so many old characters returning.
Only thing that irked me were Mikey's sudden electric powers, I was just sitting there like "What the hell?! :lol:"
But oh well, at least they're gone again, so I guess it was kind of cool, he definetely had some awesome fighting scenes.
And yay! Mona gets to stay on Earth, I have to admit that while I don't particularly ship any of the characters (I usually don't care about that all that much), if I had to choose, Raph and Mona are my favorite couple out of the bunch, they're really cute.

And while we're on the the subject of couples, I was kind of confused by the first minutes. The others are acting like sickening sweethearts, Raph gets annoyed and even complains to Chompy how he "doesn't need love". I have the feeling I'm missing something here. Did... the other pairs become official or something? A little later when Raph and Mona reunite there's also this little weird scene with Karai and Leo, where Karai doesn't quite get what Raph likes about Mona and how Leo responds to that.
Maybe I'm also reading too much into it? I don't know....

We have missed 5 episodes (the whole Monster Arc plus that travel to the past with Renet) because of Nickelodeon and its decision to not follow the real order.

But I don't think any ship has been canon during that time. Writers like to keep that "Will they?Won't they?" thing to tease the viewers until the very end :ohwell:

But if they did make canon a ship and we don't know it for the change of the order, I am gonna be so mad for it

AH! Thanks a lot, I honestly did not know that they skipped a few episodes. Or rather switched them around.

Yeah, I kind of hope nothing except for Raph/Mona is canon as well. At least for the time being. It's just that the beginning gave of those... vibes. :lol:

You can also see it when Mikey is thanking Renet for the new Tech (I really hate when channels do that. But it could have been worse)

I think now if writers want to make more ships canon, it will be resolved in the last Arc of the show (when they will see their futures).
In this episode they only added those cute moments between April-Donnie/Leo-Karai/Mikey-Renet just to make emphasis to Raph's sadness and jealousy because he didn't have his crush around there (but not anymore :P)

Its almost time. :)

Here we go!

I like that we're seeing Salamandrians and Utroms again, but the relationship stuff with Mona is annoying.

Haha, Space Heroes was great. Jhanna is from Mirage volume 1 #13.

I wondered about the Renet scene, but I forgot about it halfway through the episode, my bad. But yes, if they skipped the time travel arc for now it makes sense.

I hadn't thought about it that way, sounds fair enough. :anime: I guess I was too busy scratching my head in confusion over possible pairing stuff.
Okay, I have my fingers crossed we didn't miss anything important.

Ut oh! Here's lord Dregg.

I'm glad they finally gave Newtralizer a real name, but it's basically "Kavaxas" lol.

Cool! preview of Usagi!

Well, that was a very disappointing amount of screentime from the Utrom Council. And April didn't even address the Irma look-alike, which is probably the worst part. My girl Queen barely even had two lines.

And yeah, there's a ton of half-@$$ing so far.

I thought it was a great episode, lots of action, and most important of all, more Mona Lisa, plus she gets to stay on Earth, and she will make a great addition to the Mighty Mutanimals. :tsmile:

As far as 1-hour specials go for TMNT, this Aliens VS Predator (with a hint of Cloverfield): TMNT Edition could have been so much greater. I put this better than S1's finale but not as good as S2 or S3's (but this isn't a finale so of course it isn't going to live up to that). You think that since they had an hour they'd explain better as to why Newtralizer was so violent instead of just one line by Bishop "lol you got brainwashed by the Kraang, man". Could have given Newt a good resolution but no, just explode in electricity. Could have had Newt actually kill Sal Commander and make death actually mean something again, but nope. How many times has this show given us a character with a badass design and amazing skills and then fail to actually flesh them out? I'm starting to think I'm too old for this show, because on top of all of that, Mikey coming back with electrical powers irritated me so much. It doesn't make an ounce of sense. At least Dregg was back, with more half-tailing explanations. Armaggon, nowhere to be found. Just great *sarcasm*. Truthfully, the only thing I liked about this episode was Newtralizer beating up/killing everyone. Good homages to Aliens and Predator, however, they fail to make up for the shoddy explanations and too light-hearted of an hour-long episode. 7/10.

So it turns out I missed the first ten minutes and was able to catch up on what I missed

...I recend some of my prior comments
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That makes me curious. In what way did Leo and Karai interact? Were they portrayed as "in love" with each other, or more as brother and sister?

"Just because I like you, it doesn't mean I'll go easy on you."

They look high as a kite.

It would be best to watch it for yourself, maybe you get a different impression than me, but I'll try to describe it.

The first little scene has them sparing and obviously having fun, and Karai says something like: "Just because I like you, doesn't mean I'll go easy on you!" Or something along those lines.

I admit this isn't saying all that much and most likely just them being bros, but there's a second small scene that's a little more... dubious. :P

Mona and Raph reunite and the scene shifts to Karai who says how she can't believe that Raph has the hots for a Salamandrian. Cue Leo getting a wide eyed look, shifting a bit and elbowing Karai while saying: "I know, he got weird taste, right?" and Leo's smiling at her while saying that. Karai gets silent and also gains a kind of sheepish, weird look on her face and she looks away.

It's hard to describe, I'm not really good at that. :toops:

I didn't interprete Leo and Karai's scene in a romance way, but in that situation, to make Raph jealous, they put April-Donnie and Leo-Karai in a almost lovebirds mood (specially April and Donnie in the living room, imo that was a cute moment), so ....

I can't tell :ohwell:

Also the way Leo looked at Karai when Karai reacted to seeing Raph and Mona Lisa together, and Leo telling her that Raph has weird taste.

Nice episode, good to see one of the few where Mikey gets to save the day.

Naturally I slept through the first 10 min... Sounds like I missed an interesting scene. lol (Will catch it in a few on Nicktoons, or whatever channel that is.)



edit: lol Leo nudging Karai... If that wasn't an unspoken "But I'm not weird, right??" then I don't know what is. Hard to read Karai's reaction, maybe just general awkwardness. (The "like you" think didn't seem to contain any 'romantic' vibe at all, though I'm sure it's gonna be read differently to much younger fans...)

I love that Dregg's ship is called a "Maligna Ship" (awesome reference)!

Good episodes but the writers forgot that April can breath normally in dimension X.

She's never been to Dimension X, so how do you know she can breath in Dimension X. Yes she's half Kraang half Human but there has been no indication she can breath there.

Id love to watch the episode but none of the cartoon sites have it up. :(

Here are my good points

Is that the Starfish that ate Nobody in the Space Heroes episode? If so, nice reference. In fact, a lot of the references are pretty nice.

Utrom society seems nice. Don't want it destroyed anytime soon.

And here are the negative ones.


Anyway, that might be a little too harsh. You can tell that shows like these are about to end when episodes tend to be like this, somehow feeling both rushed and stretched out at the same time. It's only typical.

Nevermind once again Redworld96 comes to the rescue. I can watch it :) I love Utrom Klatu and Utrom Nicto references to The Day The Earth Stood Still and Army of Darkness

Surprised that Lord Dregg survived getting frozen in space. I wonder if he's gone for good this time.

From the Dimension X scenes, it appears that Kraang Prime really is dead.

I was right about Newtralizer being a criminal bounty hunter prior to getting captured by the Kraang. But wrong about his real name being close to Flint. Makes me wonder who hired Newtralizer to destroy the Kraang.

Would be better if Fugitoid made an appearance.

I can imagine one of the civilians asking themselves if New York City has suffered enough.

Something that did strike me, Dregg is basically just Maligna with Dregg's name/gender slapped on.

@ Utromaniac @ Mukouno @ Redworld96

Thank you all for your replies. I really appreciate it.

That's some interesting dialogue. I like how it seems open for interpretation, and how it depends on the person watching it.

Thanks again. :)

Okay so what about that giant hive full of people that were being harvested? I guess everyone was freed and survived like a 30 story fall or were they rescued? Guess we didn't have time to explain that.

However anyone else catch the nod to Aliens with the mention of Jonesy on that bug killer billboard? He was the cat in the first two Alien movies. Maybe I'm reaching but since I named my cat after him I noticed it immediately.

Also kinda glad Mikey got to save the day for once, albiet a little overkill with the electrical powers. Still not complaining tho.

For Once??? He saved the day in End Times.

That billboard's been around since season 1. It's for pest control.