Proof of Russian collusion, Trump is falling apart
 

https://www.dailykos.com/story/2017/...-falling-apart

Interesting. His campaign was cleared of any Russian collusion by the FBI a little while ago but now the noose is being tightened? This is pretty crazy.

just impeach this orange baboon. he is a shitstain on this country

Impeach him for what?

Perhaps the Trump can be stumped after all. :trazz:

Do you need more then one thread with the Trump shtick? Or did the first one get closed?

This is the only Trump thread.

http://www.cnn.com/2017/07/07/politi...est/index.html

Trump is meeting with Putin, right now! The collusion is real!

http://www.cnn.com/2017/07/07/politi...est/index.html

In response Trump considers posting this.

It's the end of America! We're basically the Soviet Union now! Putin's the real president!

Y'all are high on koolaid. Putin & Russia didn't hack the election. Most American's are tired of the leftist bs pc crap.

We all survived the shitstorm of muslim illegal immigrant barry obama. You will survive 8 years of Trump.

"This is bad comedy!" -Galvatron

I get people are still sour on the election to an extent, but can we attempt to move past it and focus on the policies/legislations passed by Donald?

BTW, I'd still take my chances with him than Pence.

I don't like Pence either, though I suspect that he wouldn't have the cult of personality that would dampen criticism like Trump does.

Athough you are right. Barring an impeachment (and hopefully not assassination) Trump is here to stay for the next four years.

I think what bothers me the worst about his policies is that he is anti-environment and that he is trying to severely restrict or almost outlaw abortion, one which will screw us over long term and the other which will not reduce abortions at all, but will just serve to drive desperate women towards illegal and unregulated providers.

And what's crazy is that Republicans used to be pro-choice and pro-environment, but all it seemed to take was some heavily influential guy pushing Catholic views on abortion and somebody else saying environmentalism was Mother Earth worship, and their views took a 180. This used to be the party of Lincoln, but I doubt he'd recognize it now. They even started appealing to the racism of the South back in the 60's to get Southern voters away from the Democrats, which I wonder if that was the first sign they started losing their identity.

It was indeed. The parties have basically switched roles in the last 100 years or so. Looking back from Lincoln(or earlier) the GOP was more like the Dems are now. And vice versa. It is an interesting flip from what their platforms have been historically.

And I doubt this evolution is even finished, both parties seem to be moving into more extreme positions. Republicans seem to be slowly morphing into the alt-right, and the Democrats seem to be going into identity politics with a vengeance. Both potentially alienating their more moderate constituents, and both not seeming to care.

What would moderate reform even look like now a days? Are there any moderate voters even remaining in any party?

Well, there are moderates left, but I'm not sure of the percentage of them. It's seems to be a form of tribalism that's emerging, as the more extreme sides seem to be growing.

Hopefully, if the Republicans and Democrats gets too niche it'll fracture into several parties and the 2 Party System can crash and burn. Cause Libertarians and the other one is not going to do anything to change the current system, they're too incompetent, at least of what I've seen.

There's already a splinter Democrat Party called Justice Democrats, which wants to challenge the Democrats and their corporate wing.

http://www.cnn.com/2017/07/10/politi...sia/index.html

"The point here is simple: With each passing week, the story seems to change when it comes to Trump and Russia. And, in almost every instance, what we find is more smoke around those connections. We don't have fire yet -- as Trump like to remind people (and he's right). But, man oh man, the smoke just keeps getting thicker."

You heard it first from CNN -- the smoke around Trump is getting thicker! Can't be long now.

wow, will CNN even survive like this?
8 Years of Trump will end up being blamed on them at this rate.

CNN did the hacking to elect Donald, for... ratings, or something. *insert a funny joke*

I would argue that this "morphing" hasn't been slow, it's just that non-marginalized folks are now realizing it's happening....because now it's starting to affect them.

But yeah, the whole Southern Strategy is a hell of a thing to read about.

The media is fairly happy with the presidency, I'm sure ratings are good for most of them since they have such a polarizing president. They're filling the news cycle with FAKE news and when the President does a bunch of horrible things he just calls the media FAKE news and when you turn on the TV and see FAKE news then who do you believe. No one has learned anything from this past election.

We're in for what appears a rough 8 years and we have no one to blame but the media and whining culture. A part of me thinks the consequences are necessary for people to learn and deserved but then again I am being affected a lot by it and more than the average person who holds dearly to their opinions.

While I agree, Kool-Aid comes in two flavors, and you're all in on the other.

I donno, seems more like the people who voted for Donald and the Electoral College thingie is to blame.

So long as we've got the Electoral College, no third party has a chance.
Which, considering what we've got for third parties might just be the ONLY good thing about the EC to begin with.

As for the people who voted in favor of this administration...
Good luck to them. I hope there are enough of them to complete their Go Fund Me accounts, because...I'm sure as hell not helping them with anything.

I'm curious as to why several folks are saying it will be 8 years. They DO realize the next presidential election is in only FOUR years don't they? I seriously doubt Chump will last longer than that- not when buyers remorse is already setting in for so many.....

He'll be reelected.

I'll put $$$ on that.

I'd be willing to bet most people don't realize we have elections ever November.
And because of that...yeah, he'll likely get re-elected in four.

I'm sure gerrymandering and continued blocks to voters' rights will have absolutely no role to play in that either.

I have faith in my fellow man.

...

Not that they'll make informed rational decisions, but that they'll live down to my expectations.

I'm rarely disappointed.

I am curious to see who the democrats will dust off to face him in 2020. It won't be a Hillary Clinton, or anyone like that at all.

I dunno. In my area at least it seens he has lost a lot of the support he had before. Even the people who voted for him are questioning why they did. If the same holds true in other Red states his own party might turn against him.

Which is a shame, because she was actually qualified for the job.

In the meantime I'll be making sure my Aunt attire is ready and freshly pressed.

Under his eye.
https://68.media.tumblr.com/524d5040...07i7o1_400.gif

Bernie 2020, baby! :tlol:

If I were a democrat I'd be PISSED at my party for nominating him.
Good god his ardent supporters are insufferable.

WOOOOOOOO!!!!!

FREE EDUCATION!!!!!!

WOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!

Sorry, that was uncalled for. Seriously, though, unless his health takes a major decline, he'll be running again.

I don't doubt he will, and I wish him the best.
Much like another Socialist Jew I know, it's not him I have a problem with...but his fanclub.

:D

It's going to be 8 years because instead of looking at why Trump won when it should've been a landslide victory for whoever ran against him. But instead of looking at what alienated voters they're using the same god damn strategies that did not work in the primaries nor the eleciton.

Sure, let's attack Trump on anything whether it's true or half-true, that surely won't come back to bite them. Let's continue to give power to SJWs who get offended over everything and are alienating the majority of the population. It wasn't "us" it was Russia who got Trump elected.


The worst part of Andrew's trolling of "this time it'll actually happen..." is that he doesn't even post all the articles that the mainstream media is putting out.



Anywho, about the whole "it's only a two party system" well a multi-party system is not necessarily good either in a winner takes all type of democracy since often there are many parties that split the vote and the least popular party ends up in control since there was no one to divide up the vote there. This is what happens in my current country and it's a huge problem. Literally everyone hates the elected party but no one can agree on which other party should win so the vote is split and the hated party wins again when everyone would've preferred any other choice.

Report: Trump Son Informed Russia Meeting Was Effort To Aid His Father's Campaign(via NPR)

So is this going to bring about a new investigation or just get swept under the rug?