Does Nickelodeon hate us?
 

This is literally the latest two TMNT offerings from Nickelodeon:

https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com...3a92f67561.jpg

http://www.highlander-community.com/rise.jpg

Talk about a left AND a right hook.

It's not been confirmed yet that that is the official look on Rises.

No, but Michael Bay is a moron.

Thankfully the movie series is done so it doesn't matter much anymore.

I hate them back.

Why is your only nice TMNT thing from IDW? Or with IDW since they get more credit?

Because Nick has zero to do with that beyond approvals and telling them, "No, no, that's too violent, dial it back."

We actually got the most perfect modern April O' Neil in the silver screen tbh. :tlove: Heck, she even beaten the Shredder.

http://i.imgur.com/DsRJkRX.jpg

That Rise design tho... I'd reject that faster than Teen Titans Go if that is the final design. :tmad:

I think Nick doesn't really care what we think.

They have an audience of kids to please, that are only used to badly animated flash crap, badly stylized flash crap, or a few handful of CG comedy shows.


I worried that when the sale happened, this is EXACTLY what we would get. I guess we should be thankful it held off for one series at least, even if it hit the movies immediately.

And IDW is thankfully independent of nick. a Reboot from the ground up like that is really what the comic needed at this point.


but as far as TMNT movies and TV shows go, I think the days of appealing to older fans are long gone. might be best to just stick with the comics.

like I said in the other thread, RIP TMNT. but at least we all for the most part seem to agree this looks horrible for a change :)

basically what I was going to say. People need to chill out and wait for official confirmation about the design.

Yeah, probably.

Imagine if this does end up being FAKE... but then the real designs end up actually being significantly worse?

They'd have to care about you in order to hate, you and they don't.
Welcome to Aging out of the Target Demographic.

(ftr: I think that design is adorable)

I eagerly anticipate the rage from the portion of the fanbase that the show is NOT catering to.

Nick doesn't hate us, they just don't care all that much about us. What they care about is profit. They get (most) of the adult fan profit from the IDW license, and collector toys. The non-comic media is made for the children's demographic, and as they see it, that brings in the the largest profit.

It's gotten to the point where I'm more excited about the backlash than I am the announcements that spawned them.

Count me in the angry mob movement.

http://i.imgur.com/10HLhcy.jpg

First Trump, now this nonsense? Never! #NotMyTMNT

It doesn't matter how bad something is, as long as you get your superiority tears from angry fans, right?

I prefer the tears of broflakes the best.
Because they're the ones who've spent the longest time telling me and mine that since we're not the target audience, we should pipe down.

And now...they're not the target audience either.

It could be worse, you could be getting no content at all like most Viacom properties that may want the opportunities of TMNT nowadays.

As others have said earlier, the Rise info is not "officially" confirmed yet, even if the artwork looks like it is. For the sake of argument, we're comparing one piece of artwork with info not fully elaborated on. It may turn out well, but it also may be weak.

Should the series bomb, however, we're looking at another few year break as we did following The Next Mutation. It'll be revived as a result, maybe with a different direction, or the same material.

As for the films... just let them die honestly. All the threads made won't change the fact that that series is done due to a box office disappointment. There are minimal things that could be reused in future incarnations (and that's being generous), but it's likely going to be forgotten. Even then, 2016 wasn't one of the best theater years as a movie goer myself.

What I'm saying is this though: many franchises under Nickelodeon deserve better. Fairly Odd Parents after being revived, Danny Phantom after its third season. Series such as Harvey Beaks that were squandered by the network. There are probably more examples, but those are notable ones, especially the first two that I grew up on.

Either way, if this is the direction going forward, I'm not following. I'm personally moving onto college by the time Rise officially airs; by then though, I'd rather invest time into other TMNT incarnations. The new will draw in audiences to keep the franchise alive as Nick and IDW have done (I don't know how much PD did in that regard), but eventually, something will have to give. That's the sense I'm getting with this.

Wow, I rambled on for a bit. :lol: These are my general thoughts based on this "leaked" news.

Who is saying that? No one above the age of 12 (and that's being generous) has been the target audience of anything TMNT for many years now.

Says the guy who made the "Does Nick Hate Us?" thread...

It was kind of rhetorical.

Literally happened once or twice.

I hope they don't hate us. :ohwell: I mean, many of us aren't just first gen TMNT fans, but we're also first gen Nick kids. Sure, it's gotta remain a kid's network, but come on... don't ruin a 33 year old franchise we had first, and don't ruin today's kids from getting to see how great it should still be and why TMNT is awesome. Don't take away the substance.


April? Where? It's more like April playing Megan Fox rather than the reverse it should be. These Turtles don't even know April... They randomly befriended Megan Fox and Stephen Amell.

Wish we could have just sent her to your house instead of the movie set, then it would be a win-win. You get her and the films wouldn't.

Judging by the design of Rise Of The Turtles, yes.

Nickelodeon wants to play it safe, by creating a more kid friendly version of TMNT, the 2012 kind of pushed the boundaries on what they can show on Kids TV programing.

No, it really didn't because shows like BTAS, JL, and The Clone Wars had far worse sh*t and were a lot more popular and well made than TMNT12.

If it was even an issue they could have continued with that short stint of Friday night airings they did, and then put more effort into making Half Shell a real thing for the younger ones.



There was a time when the old show "Round House" on Snick actually mentioned sex back in the day. Before the internet came along and the subject became as open as it is now with tweens/young teens. Was surprising to hear on that channel back then. Nick isn't afraid to push it a little and TMNT is hardly the first, but maybe a better time slot would have sufficed rather than trying to neuter it.

Korra had already gone way over with the way they killed a lot of the characters. The Earth Queen, P'li, Asami's father...

I think I'd actually love a version of TMNT that comes close to Avatar in terms of writing.

http://vignette3.wikia.nocookie.net/...20080205181213

Volume 1 atleast. 2 onwards is not for everybody.

The only thing Nick cares about us is the money in our pockets. They don't care about satisfying the fans or creating worthwhile stories, just the profit they can make from 'merch.

Screw them.

Just wondering, how many of us here in this thread who watch 2012 TMNT will watch next year's show?

I'll watch it regardless. I wouldn't dismiss a TMNT show that quickly.

I think there could be an entire SNL commercial parody about a breakfast cereal called broflakes. I picture Andy Samberg in it even though he's not on the show anymore. :D

The Nick cartoon had tons of on screen death and violence. More than Inwould have expected.

Who is Inwould, and why should we care what he/she expected? lol

If it's legit like what is being discussed in that other thread and is anything like some of the stupid stuff on tv these days... I'll prob check it out, but I doubt that cartoon style would be able to hook me.

I won't. The art style is... I can't find the word to describe it. It's in its own category, especially when we've had something like the current Nick cartoon.

I'll give a few episodes a view to see how bad it is, then I'm abandoning it in favor of something competent.

I like how you say you want "to see how bad it is" and that you already know you will abandon it.

I tried the Nick show but couldn't enjoy it. I'll give the new show the same chance