Two loose ends: Mutagen Man & April's Mother
 

It has been confirmed that neither will be addressed in the finale arc. Thus, this will leave the show with two glaring loose ends when it's over: the fates of Timothy/Mutagen Man and April's mom. Granted, these may not be big deals to some, but I know there are some out there who may care about both.

I suppose someone could ask one of the crew members if they had any resolution or fates planned for either, or one of them could tell us on their own. Until then though, I guess we can use this topic to speculate what happened to either of them (and in April's mom's case, backstory), or guess why they were never given onscreen closures, whether it had been behind the scenes problems or them just not knowing what to do with either.

In regards to Mutagen Man, Donnie did say in The Invasion Part 2 that Timothy "would defrost in about 70 years" (assuming that 70 wasn't a rough guess), and since the finale arc takes place only 50 years instead of 70...yeah, there's your explanation of why we won't see Tim again. April's mom is a big question mark though. Regardless of what became of her in the 50 year time skip, we're not going to learn more about her.

And I know you can probably just easily say "well they probably both died off-screen due to the time skip lol", but I'm not sure how satisfying of a conclusion that would be to some.

I get the general vibe that this show didn't really plan ahead that much and just left a bunch of loose threads in case they ran out of ideas.

April's mom (and half-alien origins) really should have been a pretty big focus.

Soooo, I'm just going to declare April's mother as a human who knew about the Kraang & Utroms like Kutzman and agreed to help them by hosting an Utrom hybrid (maybe an Utrom mitochondria?) without informing her husband.

I mean, who's to say April wasn't conceived by IVF? It would be a good way to slip in that alien bit while convincing Kirby that a different mitochondria would protect her from inheriting certain genetic problems from her mother.

Then the Kraang got wind of what happened and tried to turn it to their advantage.

Or it could be that April's mother didn't exist. There is a thread speculating on that.

Considering the show's track record, did you honestly expect anything different?

There's just too much to fit into 3 eps. I always assumed April's mom was killed by the Kraang after experiments (though that means no closure for her) and If they defrosted Mutagen man there would have to be screen time for him.
Apparently there are some loose ends, I'm more concerned with that being the some of the main characters.

Guess it'll be up to fan works to suss that out. :tlol:

I agree with Powder on that. I do think April's mom may have died after Kirby and April fled to New York. As for Timothy, he's just done. Maybe they were planning closure for them but after getting word that the show wasn't going to be renewed after season 5, they just decided to skip over it. Yes, it's a shame but we can always use fan fiction to fill in the blanks or make things better.

In one of my stories, I had her mom come back so that she would have that closure of knowing that her mom was okay and I had Tim return too.

just a nother bit of bad planning and writing.

if you wanted to make this show 'bigger and better' than anything that has come before it, tying up loose plot ends the audience is supposed to care about is a big part of that.

Hell, there could have been a whole season with the turtles de mutating all the mutants in the city with the anti mutagen, if they didn't make it such a rare thing to create.

this show just seemed to be a 'spur of the moment cool idea' series with not much future planning beyond basic season premise.

My eulogy for Timothy:

Mutagen Man is dead, Timothy is dead.

He was an annoying dumbass as a human dragging people down, and a brainless monster attacking people as a mutant.

I never like him. So long poor excuse of a character.

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As for April's mom, I maintain my stance that she is a Kraang mutant that had sex with a human. April was born through her tentaculous vagina and has special abilities - among them being immune to mutagen itself.

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...Well...she ought to have been an abnormally large Utrom because...there are so many ways that could have gone badly.

not that i don't disagree with the quoted above at least., but you just caused some show creators to go into a rage by posting that ;o)..

You're so ****in stupid I can't believe it.

I was working on a fan fic for a while that suggested that April's mother was also a scientist and that she had met Kirby through work, but her field was more in biological sciences. She had gotten the chance to work for the prestigious TCRI doing secret research and as she became more and more obsessed with her research with mutagen she actually used her newborn child as a test subject, becoming more psychologically twisted as time went on. Long story short that was why April was born with the powers she possesses and Kirby had run away with April when he learned what she had done to their child. Also gives some reasoning as to why the guy is so phobic of the Kraang and overprotective of April all the time, etc.

That is just one part of it... I wrote most of it during a bad time in my life and it some aspects of it got pretty grim... I still work on it here and there but it's gotten to be over 100 chapters, but that was my take on April's mom anyway. I also had a gimmick worked in where she had 11 other sisters all named after the other months of the year and they all had different powers, but way more tragic backstories of lives with the Kraang that left them all a bit deranged.

It would have been nice to at least get a little closure on Mutagen Man/Timothy though. I guess we're to assume he was cured with retro-mutagen at some point and it just was never mentioned? Maybe he will get some kind of cameo at the end, even if in just the background of something to suggest Donnie cured him, but I doubt it .

Why do you keep posting stuff like this when you don't even watch the show? What track record? Pretty much all the major plotlines and characters have been wrapped up besides these.

are you retarded or something what is with you and posting stupid sonic pictures. go back to tumblr you tard.

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Same goes for you your stupid but not as bad as Papenbrook

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So, guys....Brandon Auman just confirmed April's mother is dead. So that settles this loose end. He said it in his reply on instragram, some minor spoilers for the last 3 episodes if you want to look:

Doesn't count unless we see it in the show.

The show was cool but far from perfect. I love how season 2 was all about finding the mutagen and it was forgotten about like 3 episodes later.

I also like how they just randomly had April in the lair without showing how she met Splinter.

When are we getting that OT Shredder, Bebop and Rocksteady epidode?

Season 2 was never about finding all the mutagen, we settled this before. The mutagen canister leak was to explain where all the new mutants were popping out from. The Turtles can't scour millions of miles of New York looking for mutagen canisters.

She met him off-screen. It's not a big deal.

Ok, her mom is dead... April's origin still adds up to a bunch of question marks.

Kirby worked for the Kraang, he and his wife either visited or were abducted by the Kraang at some point. The Kraang experimented on her, she gave birth to April, then her mother died...then they tried to clone her and she became a monster, etc.

Why did Kirby worked for the Kraang the dude was a psychologist,why the Oneals of all people, are there more people like April and if not why did it take this long for them to make a person like April, and why exactly is April key to taking over the universe I know they said her mind was the center of the "universe" but what does that mean exactly

The new crossover is already out on DVD, not sure when it's airing but it's available online.

The Kraang had many humans working for them, even Snakeweed did in his human form in the first episode. April being the first human/Kraang hybrid due to experimentation on her mother is likely why they considered her so special. April didn't get those telepathic powers out of nowhere.

That doesn't answer my question why did Kirby worked for the Kraang, was it because of money was he in hard times when did he find out the Kraang were up to no good, how long has he been on the run.

So how long have they been making Kraang hybrids, and again why are the O neals so damn important what do they have in their DNA that makes them so unique compared to the billions of people on the Earth.

Right. Something about April being "the one" made her DNA the key to making their mutagen work right on Earth, but if they created April so many years ago, why not just make another Kraang-Human hybrid instead of hunting her down? And why did it take them 16 years to find her? It's not like they were laying low. They lived openly in NYC and didn't bother to change their names or anything.

The frustrating thing is that Kirby knows way more than he's ever been willing to divulge. I understand "protecting her from the truth" growing up, but after the events of season 1, why continue to keep secrets?

Surely she would have had a conversation with him about Mom-thing after Battle for New York. I guess the writers knew there was a lot of holes in the story and just chose to abandon that whole plot.

For MM, until the writers say something, I'll assume toe freezing process eventually killed him, or that the Krang were able to terminate his life functions.

That's what I absolutely HATED about this show. It brought in new characters and plot points constantly to the point that they either were abandoned, or got resolved in an unsatisfying way due to being rushed or being done off-screen. It, along with the characters getting flanderized made me quit caring when the space arc aired.

*Inb4 Cubed says 'lol what, this show is perfect with 0 flaws, lock this thread'*

you can't take away the g uys thunder. he lives for these moments.

oh well, I guess someone can always come in and call me a troll. that seems to be a new favorite pass time for the over emotional :).

LOL, what? You seem bizarrely angry for a show that wrapped up all it's main plot points and characters. The only loose ends are with minor secondary or third tier characters.

Also if you're laughably claiming you quit back during the space arc in Season 4, then you have absolutely no clue of how the rest of the show has been handled and all the character arcs that have been concluded. So why even say such a thing if you haven't watched the rest of the episodes?

Come back to us after you've watched all of Season 4 and 5, then you'll have a valid opinion.

I'm pretty sure the only reason April has seemingly limitless "mind powers" is for plot relief because the writers were too lazy. That has been my by far biggest problem with this show, the amount of times April saves the day by doing some crazy mind power move that we didn't even know she could do. The most annoying thing is when she says "I can sense...' just to continue the plot. Its lazy writing and it has totally derailed the show for me. The episode with her mother in the spaceship in the basement of that house or whatever was so interesting it doesn't surprise me in the least that they refuse to expand on it.

No, I think they did have more in store for her, but they probably couldn't do it because of the network and what they wanted. Remember how they said Mutagen Man would play a big role in season 2 and people complained that he didn't do much? That's probably because they did have plans for him but the network stepped in and nixed that.

I had mixed feelings about her powers, but now I don't mind them.

It's sad.

For a show supposedly being run by devoted fans, why would they not put their best effort forward and make it seem like they give a damn about plot and resolving things? they seemed more interested in trying to work in cool monster shows to the point of even bringing dracula into the damn series..

smh...

I guess it depends on your view of the show, some people think they have put love into it, other's not. The monster arc was supposed to just be a fun one off tale, not sure it needed 4 eps but it was okay.

As for April's powers, mixed on that, at least the extent of them anyway. I think they did that to make something more of her, seen as she was only training throughout the series and when finally a Kunoich, still only just trained.

They put plenty of work and effort into the show, you just don't care and sit there acting like you have no idea what goes on and forget what happens week after week. Throughout the entire show you kept saying things like, "I don't remember" or "When did this happen?" and it had nothing to do with the show itself, either the real-life breaks or you just weren't paying attention.

Actually, I have been watching the show. I just don't watch new episodes as soon as they come out. What I meant by "quit", I meant that I stopped being a fan and just watched casually since it nearly killed my love for TMNT. My opinion is still valid. They handled Newtralizer and Dreg HORRIBLY.

Really? Newtralizer wasn't even a character in his first episode (he didn't even speak), and the second episode just had him properly introduced as a ex-convict from the salamander race or whatever he was. Then in his final appearance he came back for revenge and worked with Dregg. How was he handled "horribly" that you put it in all caps?

As for Dregg, he was an insectoid warlord that got more and more insane with revenge against the Turtles. He came to Earth for one final assault and died. What were you expecting?