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TigerClaw 09-15-2017 02:54 PM

Universal to relaunch Halloween with Jamie Lee Curtis
 
It looks like Jamie Lee Curtis will be reprising he role of Laurie Strode, for Universal's relaunch of Halloween.
https://www.comicbookmovie.com/horro...launch-a153861

It seems that they are ignoring Halloween: Resurrection, since Laurie Strode was killed off in that one.

Andrew NDB 09-15-2017 02:56 PM

Halloween: H40?

Yeah, sounds like it's ignoring H20 and Resurrection. Weird. H3 ignored H1 and H2, H20 wiped out H4, H5, and H6, then the Zombie movies obviously wiped out all Halloween movies. Now this appears to be a soft sequel to just H1 and H2, ignoring all others... basically a remake of H20. I don't think there's another movie series out there with such a continuous cycle of canon adjusting and reboots.

I can see why they'd want to void Resurrection as it clumsily killed Laurie off, but H20 was pretty lauded at the time.

ZariusTwo 09-15-2017 02:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Andrew NDB (Post 1714520)
Halloween: H40?

Yeah, sounds like it's ignoring H20 and Resurrection. Weird. H3 ignored H1 and H2, H20 wiped out H4, H5, and H6, then the Zombie movies obviously wiped out all Halloween movies. Now this appears to be a soft sequel to just H1 and H2, ignoring all others... basically a remake of H20. I don't think there's another movie series out there with such a continuous cycle of canon adjusting and reboots.

Terminator would be a candidate

So would Highlander.

Andrew NDB 09-15-2017 03:01 PM

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Originally Posted by ZariusTwo (Post 1714522)
Terminator would be a candidate

So would Highlander.

Terminator? Not in film, at all. 5 kind of ignores 4, but that doesn't mean it didn't happen. 1, 2, 3, 4 all work together just fine beyond the fact that it should have been Cyber Research Systems in T4 and not Cyberdyne. Though yeah, there is a lot of "canon adjusting" in T5 alone, to be sure.

Highlander? In film only one time. H3 wiped out H2, that's it. H1, H3, H4, and H5 all work fine together (even though nobody likes H5). I mean, you have to apply the retcon of "They aren't the last Immortals in H1 or H3, and no Prize was won" but then it all works fine, even with the TV show.

Krutch 09-15-2017 03:36 PM

*cough* X-Men, your favourite franchise :tcool:

Allio 09-15-2017 03:48 PM

man, H20 really sucked

Krutch 09-15-2017 04:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Allio (Post 1714554)
man, H20 really sucked

H20 tried to adapt the Scream vibe that was popular at the time. And while I'm a huge Scream fan, Halloween shouldn't have tried to go that route.

Andrew NDB 09-15-2017 04:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Krutch (Post 1714559)
H20 tried to adapt the Scream vibe that was popular at the time. And while I'm a huge Scream fan, Halloween shouldn't have tried to go that route.

I thought it was effective. And I thought Resurrection was hilarious. Then again, I don't know if I can call myself a Halloween fan. Halloween 1 was a yawner to me, and Halloween 2 was more of the same. 3 was cool for what it was. 4, 5, and 6 were all horrible, horrible movies. I've never seen the Zombie stuff.

Krutch 09-15-2017 04:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Andrew NDB (Post 1714562)
I thought it was effective. And I thought Resurrection was hilarious. Then again, I don't know if I can call myself a Halloween fan. Halloween 1 was a yawner to me, and Halloween 2 was more of the same. 3 was cool for what it was. 4, 5, and 6 were all horrible, horrible movies. I've never seen the Zombie stuff.

Halloween 1 is awesome. 2 was a bit of a snooze. I'm with ya for 3-6. Both Zombie movies get a bad rep but I like them. I especially appreciate how wildly different in approach they are from the first to the second.

Andrew NDB 09-15-2017 04:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Krutch (Post 1714565)
Both Zombie movies get a bad rep but I like them. I especially appreciate how wildly different in approach they are from the first to the second.

That's why I suspect I might like them. I just haven't bothered to yet.

I think my problem is that I didn't see Halloween 1 & 2 until I was already in my mid-20s. By then I'd already loooong seen all of the Friday the 13ths, and Halloween 1 & 2 just seemed like smaller scale, slower and lamer versions of the better F13s. And Jason would tear Michael Myers to pieces.

Krutch 09-15-2017 04:20 PM

Won't disagree with ya there. I'm a Jason guy all the way :D

The Deadman 09-15-2017 06:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Andrew NDB (Post 1714520)
Halloween: H40?

Yeah, sounds like it's ignoring H20 and Resurrection. Weird. H3 ignored H1 and H2, H20 wiped out H4, H5, and H6, then the Zombie movies obviously wiped out all Halloween movies. Now this appears to be a soft sequel to just H1 and H2, ignoring all others... basically a remake of H20. I don't think there's another movie series out there with such a continuous cycle of canon adjusting and reboots.

I can see why they'd want to void Resurrection as it clumsily killed Laurie off, but H20 was pretty lauded at the time.

Halloween 3 ignored the first 2 because the rest of the series was supposed to be stand alone stories, but when H3 was total crap...they reverted back to the Michael story.

Andrew NDB 09-15-2017 06:36 PM

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Originally Posted by The Deadman (Post 1714604)
but when H3 was total crap...

It wasn't total crap, it wasn't even bad. It just wasn't "Michael Myers killing people" again, so people avoided it.

MsMarvelDuckie 09-15-2017 07:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Krutch (Post 1714569)
Won't disagree with ya there. I'm a Jason guy all the way :D


Meh, Freddy pwns them both. And before anyone brings up the ending to FvsJ, I will say flat out that Jason did NOT win that fight. Not only did he NOT truly "kill" Freddy (you can't- he's part of the dream realm now) but Freddy also got exactly what he wanted out of it- namely being remembered (and feared) again!

Redeemer 09-16-2017 12:01 PM

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Originally Posted by MsMarvelDuckie (Post 1714616)
Meh, Freddy pwns them both. And before anyone brings up the ending to FvsJ, I will say flat out that Jason did NOT win that fight. Not only did he NOT truly "kill" Freddy (you can't- he's part of the dream realm now) but Freddy also got exactly what he wanted out of it- namely being remembered (and feared) again!

I don't know lets not get "A-head" of ourselves :lol:

But seriously when someone takes your head off you lose the match.

Krutch 09-16-2017 03:43 PM

The ending of Freddy vs Jason was such a cop out.

It was good in that both fans will eternally argue over who actually won, but lousy in that if we're being honest, the winner was Laurie.

sdp 09-16-2017 03:58 PM

I've only ever seen Halloween and H20, only remember the original film, maybe one day I'll watch the whole series just to find a way to shoehorn all the films in one continuity somehow :lol:

Last October I watched the reboots of Friday the 13th and Nightmare on Elm Street and finished it off with FvJ. They're ok, they weren't necessarily bad they just felt like a pointless remake, those horror icons were a product of its time and you can't market them like you did in the 80s and 90s.

Really for these horror icons they need to give one of those horror enthusiasts a low budget and have them make the movie of their dreams and I'm sure the niche fanbase will love it and it'll be a success. I'm not saying any horror enthusiast, obviously some director who is competent but yeah similar to how Chucky has been surviving recently with smaller budget films while Freddy/Jason are just seen as box office failures. Hell make movies set in the 80s and 90s before cellphones where everywhere to suspend disbelief easier. After the success of Stranger Things and IT others should take notice and just set movies in a time when it's still "modern" but not having phones with data on them.

As far as FvJ, it would've been huge if released in the 90s. Imagine ending 1999 with it, but by the time it came out it was a bit too late, sure it was still getting attention but not all it could've. The ending was good, you make both fans happy on who "won". The soundtrack was not that bad either, I reviewed that last year as well :lol:

Allio 09-16-2017 04:04 PM

Freddy vs Jason vs Ash was just better.

KillCrites 04-19-2018 11:32 AM

First poster is here. This looks incredible.

newfan 04-19-2018 12:05 PM

I read that it takes place after the first movie (though must be many years later) but pays tribute to the others, not sure how. Halloween seems to overlook previous movies a little anyway.
I also read she once again has a daughter, wasn't Jamie, the girl in 4,5...6? supposed to be her daughter? Then in H20 it's a son she had, though she would have had a grandson, the baby Jamie had in... was it 6?... but that baby came from Myers and Jamie was killed, they obviously wanted to wipe clean and just give her a teen son, also she had been absent after 2.
Looking forward to seeing this.

As for the other comments, I haven't seen all the Friday 13th's, maybe 2 of them and then the reboot. Nightmare on Elmstreet, most but not sure if all of them.

MsMarvelDuckie 04-19-2018 01:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Redeemer (Post 1714735)
I don't know lets not get "A-head" of ourselves :lol:

But seriously when someone takes your head off you lose the match.


Not in this case. He still came out "ahead" in sheer fear factor, as having people remember and fear him again was EXACTLY what he was after all along. Not to mention that all it did was send him back to the deeam realm, where he is strongest- and where even JASON is afraid of him! See, he never really "died" there. Sure, Jason won the "physical" fight, but that was never really what it was about. Yeah, I call it a win for Kruger. (Hence why his head winked as Jason carted it off, and why his hand came up to grab the mask in Jason Goes To Hell....)

Andrew NDB 04-20-2018 01:48 AM

"I really wish TPTB would erase every Halloween movie ever, even the second one, and do a 'what if' story 40 years later" <--- said like maybe 3 people, ever.

Powder 04-20-2018 01:58 AM

I'm interested in this.

KillCrites 04-20-2018 07:17 AM

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Originally Posted by Andrew NDB (Post 1756452)
"I really wish TPTB would erase every Halloween movie ever, even the second one, and do a 'what if' story 40 years later" <--- said like maybe 3 people, ever.

They're taking Myers back to his roots. Back to when he had no motivation, no family connection to Laurie, no Curse of Thorn. He's just a guy hiding in the bushes killing people for no apparent reason, they're attempting to making him scary and mysterious again. Which I'm all for, even though I would prefer a direct sequel to H6.

TigerClaw 04-22-2018 02:02 PM

Looks like test audiences hated the ending. Plus they had some major issues with the continuity.
https://www.comicbookmovie.com/horro...sequel-a159870

sdp 04-22-2018 02:11 PM

These movies will never have mass appeal again, it's like reviving Dracula, they're a product of their time. There's a large group of fans but they're a niche, they should go the route of Chucky and make smaller films aimed at that specific crowd that loves these type of movies.

Horror for the masses changes over time and the slasher genre is as dated as the classic universal monsters.

The Deadman 04-22-2018 03:59 PM

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Originally Posted by TigerClaw (Post 1756720)
Looks like test audiences hated the ending. Plus they had some major issues with the continuity.
https://www.comicbookmovie.com/horro...sequel-a159870

Dont know why people are upset with the continuity, the producers came out weeks ago and said this film was only following the first one. Also in terms of the ending....this means Jamie Lee's character finally bites the dust?

newfan 04-22-2018 04:28 PM

Could the ending they did like much just have been...flat rather than she dies? Coruse, it did say it will be the last ever, so maybe. I also read that it is set after the first movie, I wonder what people felt didn't explore the roots.

Autbot_Benz 06-08-2018 11:42 AM


newfan 06-08-2018 11:59 AM

So....he's not her brother now? Okay so he's been locked up since the end of the first movie, cleans up the timelines and works.... not sure if I prefer that or not at this stage, also, we've not seen his face since the first movie when she pulled off the mask, have we? (not taking Reboot into account here)
I'm looking forward to seeing it anyway, however it turns out.

AT-Man 06-08-2018 02:20 PM

Is Michael going to be just Laurie's imagination?

Allio 06-08-2018 02:29 PM

I'm wanting this to be good. Did not like H20 and this is giving me H20 vibes

Allio 10-19-2018 08:02 PM

Ultimately it was a better version of H2O. I liked it but I need to really think it over.

Leo656 10-19-2018 08:09 PM

A buddy of mine was raving about it today. I'm curious about it.

I wanna watch the old series first, though, just to get an idea what was retconned and what kind of in-jokes/homages there are, as supposedly there are many. I know the basic story of all the films from reading about them but I confess I've never gotten around to watching any of them.

I'm hoping to pick up the Blu-ray box set sometime this coming week, and my wife and I may go see the new one after we watch those. If.

Just one of many things I never got around to. I do feel bad about it.

Allio 10-19-2018 08:23 PM

The timeline is simple

* 1, 2, 4, 5, 6
*1, 2, H20, resurrection
*Rob zombies
*1, 2018
*3

Leo656 10-19-2018 09:23 PM

I definitely wasn't confused about any of that. :) I read a lot.

I actually own the first Zombie one but I haven't watched it. I promised myself I'd go in release order.

newfan 10-20-2018 11:58 AM

Just got back from watching this. I didn't know if I was going to like the movie for the first part but it improved by then end, I know this is the last but if they had have planned a follow up I'd still be interested enough to check it out.

Vicky82 10-20-2018 12:25 PM

I watched this today, it was good. I've never been into the latest horror movies because the killings were way too gruesome. But as I have always liked the original Halloween movies I wanted to go see it. so this movie was ok for me to see even though it did have 1 gruesome moment which I had to look away for.

Kenwatanabesclone 10-20-2018 01:30 PM

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Originally Posted by newfan (Post 1780759)
Just got back from watching this. I didn't know if I was going to like the movie for the first part but it improved by then end, I know this is the last but if they had have planned a follow up I'd still be interested enough to check it out.

They do have another one planned. This one was originally gonna be a two parter but they decided to wait for the reception of the first before starting a sequel.

newfan 10-20-2018 01:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Kenwatanabesclone (Post 1780767)
They do have another one planned. This one was originally gonna be a two parter but they decided to wait for the reception of the first before starting a sequel.

Oh okay, well, I'll be up for part two should this one do as well as they want but I can take this left as it was if not.


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