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Autbot_Benz 11-06-2017 01:00 PM

21st Century Fox has been holding talks to sell most of the company to Disney
 
https://www.cnbc.com/2017/11/06/21st...y-sources.html

21st Century Fox has been holding talks to sell most of the company to Walt Disney Co., leaving behind a media company tightly focused on news and sports, according to people familiar with the situation.

The talks have taken place over the last few weeks and there is no certainty they will lead to a deal. The two sides are not currently talking at this very moment, but given the on again, off again nature of the talks, they could be revisited.

For Fox, the willingness to engage in sale talks with Disney stems from a growing belief among its senior management that scale in media is of immediate importance and that there is not a path to gain that scale in entertainment through acquisition. The company is said to believe that a more tightly focused group of properties around news and sports could compete more effectively in the current marketplace.

The media landscape has changed considerably in recent years with giants such as Facebook, Google (Alphabet), Amazon and Netflix changing the way people consume media and dominating the digital distribution of digital video content. Being able to compete in that changing landscape, many people believe, requires scale that a Disney has, but 21st Century Fox does not.

For Disney, the opportunity to take control of another movie studio and significant TV production assets as it readies a direct-to-consumer entertainment streaming offering is attractive as is Fox's significant exposure to international markets, such as the U.K., Germany and Italy — both through its networks and 39 percent ownership of Sky. Disney recently announced it will pull all of its movies from the Netflix platform and will establish two direct-to-consumer offerings: one for sports and one including its key franchises such as "Star Wars" and Marvel.

Disney would not purchase all of Fox, according to people with knowledge of the talks.
Bob Iger (L), CEO of Walt Disney Co. and Rupert Murdoch, Chairman and CEO of News Corp.
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The company could not own two broadcast networks and would therefore not buy the Fox broadcast network. It would not buy Fox's sports programming assets in the belief that combining them with ESPN could be seen as anti-competitive from an antitrust standpoint and it would not buy the Fox News or Business channel. Disney would also not purchase Fox's local broadcasting affiliates, according to people familiar with the negotiations.

In addition to the movie studio, TV production and international assets such as Star and Sky, Disney would also add entertainment networks such as FX and National Geographic.

The contemplated structure of the deal or the price that has been discussed could not be learned. Given it would involve the sale of many, but not all of Fox's properties, it's unclear how Fox would mitigate potential tax consequences of a deal.

Officials at Disney and Fox declined to comment.

CyberCubed 11-06-2017 01:02 PM

Well that's a nice way to get the X-men back in-house again.

Autbot_Benz 11-06-2017 01:03 PM

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Originally Posted by CyberCubed (Post 1726542)
Well that's a nice way to get the X-men back in-house again.

X-men Fantastic Four Galactius Silver Surfer Deadpool etc

oldmanwinters 11-06-2017 01:03 PM

Quite a shocker!

I don't think Disney should do it. It would basically just duplicate their existing assets and potentially bloat the company's movie studio.

But maybe they can at least bring back the iconic 20th Century Fox logo before the Star Wars movies!

sdp 11-06-2017 01:04 PM

I can hear Marvel geeks rejoicing that don't know the market implications this will cause, not to mention less content all around. Horrible and it seems to be like it may happen.

Andrew NDB 11-06-2017 01:04 PM

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Originally Posted by CyberCubed (Post 1726542)
Well that's a nice way to get the X-men back in-house again.

That was the first thing to pop into my mind.

Not-so-quietly end the Singer-verse and freeze all plans for X-Force and the like. Make Deadpool 3 with him suddenly in the real MCU and treat it like it's no big deal. Introduce and integrate the X-Men into everything.

That would be wild.

plastroncafe 11-06-2017 01:09 PM

All shall love the Mouse, and despair.

myconius 11-06-2017 01:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CyberCubed (Post 1726542)
Well that's a nice way to get the X-men back in-house again.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Autbot_Benz (Post 1726543)
X-men Fantastic Four Galactius Silver Surfer Deadpool etc

this is a good thing for the X-men movie

i'm not so sure it'd be all that good for Deadpool though.

kiss your R-rating goodbye.

ZariusTwo 11-06-2017 01:15 PM


Autbot_Benz 11-06-2017 01:17 PM

I just want a good Fantastic Four Movie is that so much to ask. Please Disney/Marvel your my only hope

CylonsKlingonsDaleksOhMy 11-06-2017 01:17 PM

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Originally Posted by myconius (Post 1726551)
this is a good thing for the X-men movie

i'm not so sure it'd be all that good for Deadpool though.

kiss your R-rating goodbye.

This.

Deadpool ain't getting rolled up into the MCU. Wolverine, Cyclops, Rogue, Xavier, Magneto, Polaris... sure. The Merc with an R-Rated Mouth? Please.

DestronMirage22 11-06-2017 01:17 PM

Looks like our Disney overlords are growing even more powerful.

But hey, this could be good if they reacquire the X-Men and FF movie rights.

Vicky82 11-06-2017 01:29 PM

So is this just a movie deal or is it TV shows too, because if it's TV shows as well does that mean The Simpsons are going to Disney. :lol:

NinjaPug 11-06-2017 01:33 PM

This is a very different type of acquisition than what Disney has done in the past. Looks like this article was circulated to get talks between the two parties back on track. I wonder which side slipped the details to the press.

CyberCubed 11-06-2017 01:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Vicky82 (Post 1726569)
So is this just a movie deal or is it TV shows too, because if it's TV shows as well does that mean The Simpsons are going to Disney. :lol:

Simpsons will probably end at Season 30....hopefully anyway. :lol:

ZariusTwo 11-06-2017 01:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CyberCubed (Post 1726577)
Simpsons will probably end at Season 30....hopefully anyway. :lol:

Disney's Brand Spanking New Simpsons

Autbot_Benz 11-06-2017 01:45 PM

Looks like the deal has stalled ?

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/artic...dead-cnbc-says

ZariusTwo 11-06-2017 01:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Autbot_Benz (Post 1726585)

CNBC indicated the negotiations were on/off. This doesn't solidify anything.

NinjaPug 11-06-2017 01:49 PM

This news was put out there to get talks going again or to get other potential buyers involved.

myconius 11-06-2017 01:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Autbot_Benz (Post 1726585)

maybe this will give Fox enough time to squeeze out Deadpool 3.

that's the only property in all of this i really care about.

Autbot_Benz 11-06-2017 02:01 PM

Guess getting a MARVEL's Fantastic Four will only be a dream right now

Andrew NDB 11-06-2017 02:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CylonsKlingonsDaleksOhMy (Post 1726556)
Deadpool ain't getting rolled up into the MCU. Wolverine, Cyclops, Rogue, Xavier, Magneto, Polaris... sure. The Merc with an R-Rated Mouth? Please.

"Not out of the question."

http://collider.com/r-rated-marvel-m...enom-mcu/#sony

plastroncafe 11-06-2017 02:14 PM

Curious how much closer this move would bring Disney towards monopoly status.

ProphetofGanja 11-06-2017 02:17 PM

I'm open to this I guess

It could provide the perfect opportunity for the Fantastic Four and X-men to enter the Marvel Cinematic Universe, which may be set to experience a "reboot" of sorts after Avengers 3/4 if Thanos or somebody resets reality with the Infinity Gauntlet

myconius 11-06-2017 02:26 PM

R-Rated Marvel Movies Not Out of the Question
 
i'll believe it when i see it.

and by see it i mean, sit through the movie (if it happens) and judge if it's actually good.

Andrew NDB 11-06-2017 02:30 PM

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Originally Posted by plastroncafe (Post 1726594)
Curious how much closer this move would bring Disney towards monopoly status.

Dangerously close. But not at, like, the same level as if there was rumblings about Disney buying WB.

Vicky82 11-06-2017 02:42 PM

If Disney do buy Fox then it's another prediction by the Simpsons they got right.

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DN-Ft7rV4AAh_9B.jpg

TigerClaw 11-06-2017 03:29 PM

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Originally Posted by CylonsKlingonsDaleksOhMy (Post 1726556)
This.

Deadpool ain't getting rolled up into the MCU. Wolverine, Cyclops, Rogue, Xavier, Magneto, Polaris... sure. The Merc with an R-Rated Mouth? Please.

What if they can make Deadpool movies on Netflix? it can still keep the R rating.

Andrew NDB 11-06-2017 04:01 PM

Fox stock prices soaring with news of these sale talks:

http://money.cnn.com/2017/11/06/medi...ort/index.html

CylonsKlingonsDaleksOhMy 11-06-2017 04:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TigerClaw (Post 1726610)
What if they can make Deadpool movies on Netflix? it can still keep the R rating.

Possible.

But even with their Netflix offerings, Marvel has been keeping things "clean." No nudity, no f-bombs... Deadpool is still just too much for them.

TigerClaw 11-06-2017 04:15 PM

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Originally Posted by CylonsKlingonsDaleksOhMy (Post 1726632)
Possible.

But even with their Netflix offerings, Marvel has been keeping things "clean." No nudity, no f-bombs... Deadpool is still just too much for them.

Well if Disney owns 20th Century Fox, they can still make R rated Deadpool movies, its not like Disney can tell Fox what movies they can and can't make.

Kind of like how Marvel let Disney make its Big Hero 6 animated movie, which doesn't tie into the MCU.

Andrew NDB 11-06-2017 04:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TigerClaw (Post 1726635)
Well if Disney owns 20th Century Fox, they can still make R rated Deadpool movies, its not like Disney can tell Fox what movies they can and can't make.

Kind of like how Marvel let Disney make its Big Hero 6 animated movie, which doesn't tie into the MCU.

https://i.imgflip.com/8w8hl.jpg

ProphetofGanja 11-06-2017 04:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CylonsKlingonsDaleksOhMy (Post 1726632)
Possible.

But even with their Netflix offerings, Marvel has been keeping things "clean." No nudity, no f-bombs... Deadpool is still just too much for them.

If Disney is serious about buying-out Fox, they could make Deadpool work in the MCU. It would actually be pretty funny if Deadpool still tried to drop f-bombs but they were bleeped :lol: Deadpool can break the 4th wall and crack jokes about it

TigerClaw 11-06-2017 05:03 PM

If this happens, this will be great for Phase 4 of the MCU.

ProphetofGanja 11-06-2017 05:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TigerClaw (Post 1726650)
If this happens, this will be great for Phase 4 of the MCU.

Oh yes. Honestly I wouldn't even really care if they let the X-men exist in their own separate universe, as long as the Fantastic Four and their associated baddies got to be incorporated into the MCU proper.

Dr. Doom would be the perfect villain to move on to after Thanos, showing everyone that you don't have to be a Mad Titan from Space to do awful things, you can just be a crazy dude who's been in a bad accident :lol:

TigerClaw 11-06-2017 05:32 PM

Just look at how crazy this is, if Disney owns 20th Century Fox, they would literally own franchises like Alien, Predator, Planet of the Apes, Kingsman, and many of franchises that they own.

AquaParade 11-06-2017 05:37 PM

I love Marvel films and I love Fox Marvel films. I'm not sure I want them to come together anymore. I've learned to appreciate the competition, the quantity of films, and the varied tones that comes with having multiple studios owning these characters.

That said, if Marvel announces they are making an X-Men movie, it would probably be my most anticipated film. Like I said, I love what Fox has done with Deadpool and Logan, but the color and vibrancy that Marvel could bring to the X-Men world would drive me wild.

I'm happy with whatever the outcome is.

Andrew NDB 11-06-2017 05:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ProphetofGanja (Post 1726653)
Oh yes. Honestly I wouldn't even really care if they let the X-men exist in their own separate universe, as long as the Fantastic Four and their associated baddies got to be incorporated into the MCU proper.

Dr. Doom would be the perfect villain to move on to after Thanos, showing everyone that you don't have to be a Mad Titan from Space to do awful things, you can just be a crazy dude who's been in a bad accident :lol:

Dr. Doom for Phase 4... Galactus for Phase 5!

dl316bh 11-06-2017 05:48 PM

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Originally Posted by plastroncafe (Post 1726594)
Curious how much closer this move would bring Disney towards monopoly status.

Way too terrifyingly close. I really hope it falls the hell through. I abhor Fox in all of its forms, but Disney's no better and the last thing we need is for them to have even more power.

Shark_Blade 11-06-2017 05:54 PM

I'm fine if they take over. Marvel and Star Wars are doing well under them.


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