Is there a "toxicity" in this fandom?
 

Or specifically this board? I don't think there is at all but I had a very strange discussion today on Facebook.

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Where do you guys come down on this? Am I way off?

Oh.... so they encountered Cybercubed. How unfortunate.

There's toxicity in any tmnt group/board/forum where there are fans from different tmnt versions

But is that really "toxicity" or is that just... the way it is?

Well, his taste in movies is undeniably trash at the least :lol:

be ready when the 2018 series comes out, I'm sure there are gonna be people who will like this version better then any of the previous version.

its a never ending cycle.

This community used to be much worse. The last time we have actually had a good times discussing the differences between various TMNT-versions, and which one fans prefer. (I created some during mid-2016, more came from various users)

It can be pretty terrible here, but I'm more bothered by the presentation of the opinion. If ya like something, don't like something, good for you, you've made it known. Some people agree, some people don't, alright, have a cookie.

Wait... you're stating the same thing again in the same topic? Almost verbatim? Without prompt?

Why are you complaining about this unrelated thing in this topic?

Don't you think you're being a bit of a drama queen by stating that everything you disagree with is "ruining the franchise", no matter how small?

Why do you keep visiting threads about things you don't like just to keep sh*tting on them? Like repeatedly over the course of months?

Are you really pretending your opinion is law?

-These are the things that bother me. Having an opinion is one thing. Disagreeing is totally acceptable. But if you're an adult, you should be behaving as an adult, internet or not.

I don't really know the fandom beyond this website. Do old "FW and first 3 movies only" fans count as part of the fandom?

It's divisive to to all the big differences between each incarnation/version of the TMNT. Naturally people will have different preferences as to how they want the TMNT portrayed.

I guess there is some toxicity, but I've been to worse fandoms. Like wrestling forums, for example. Oh man... and anime communities as well.

I’d say you proved the guys point. I personally don’t agree with his preferences but that doesn’t make him wrong. And what’s this about people threatening to leave and not follow through? :twink:

Bah humbug.

This is the fandom, right here. Everyone else is a filthy casual, right, Cubed?

Eh, compared to other places, those forums are nice and cozy.

That's like the internet in general these days though. People always having to be "right" or be an ass toward others for an opinon they don't agree with creates a vicious circle however.

Person 1: States opinions/views/feeling on something.
Person 2: Can't leave it alone, has to counter them and try to invalidate person 1's opinion/feeling on it, or simply insults them if they have nothing to actually offer on the topic.
Person 1: Because invalidated, continues to "complain" or otherwise discuss it.
Person 2: Continues to be an ass because they refuse to see they're part of the problem since they can't leave well enough alone and let a person have their say without having to butt in. Behavior continues to try to invalidate.
And so on...


I've still seen far worse non-TMNT places online.

As fandoms go I think this one's pretty mild. Or at least it is now.

Which isn't to say it doesn't have its fair share of edgelord crap, and gatekeepery bs.

I would consider that stuff toxic.

Yes, all fandoms have their toxic re-curring topics but in general things are fine here.

I consider a toxic fandom those that have reputations that outgrow their communities, My Little Pony, Rick & Morty, Sonic the Hedgehog, are some examples.


As far as this board, I've known since I joined that it had a bad reputation but I don't see it really, people have bickered about 2k3 not being the OT, TNM sucking, PD movies ruining the TMNT but in general things are rather tame here, never understood the "bad reputation".

Fortunately, I don't think the TMNT fandom could nearly hit the levels that the Rick and Morty fandom has..

What's so bad about those compared to TMNT, if you guys don't mind giving examples?

With Sonic it is probably the profusion of furries in the fandom I would imagine. I think if that's not a particular fan's bag it might get kind of annoying after a while.

This fandom (and by extent this forum) is sort of like a weird melting pot.
There have been so many versions of TMNT throughout the years, and each one has appealed to different audiences, and depending on each individuals circumstances (maybe it was the show going on at the time, maybe our first comic book, first exposure to the brand, etc.) we each have a version we’re convinced is the best. And because we love that version that much, we tend to voice that opinion (sometimes loudly) and we want to convince others of the same. This can strike some people as annoying. But “toxic”??? I don’t see how. As far as I can tell, we’re about the same as any other fandom.

And as far as these boards go, let’s face it; some of us are whack-jobs. :lol:
We insult and berate each other frequently, are very judgmental of others’ opinion, and we can be really fickle in regards to the direction the brand takes.
But I like to think of that as part of this place’s appeal. :)

Echoing previous statement - due to amount of TMNT incarnations its just hard to find hardcore fanboys of only one of them. Therefor, low amounts of toxicity.

In truth? This board is as toxic as cyanide. But you can survive here. If you lay low, keep your mouth shut, block the people who you just can't get along with, only post in threads you want to have a discussion in, and bail on a discussion when a thread turns into a toxic argument, and you'll be just fine.

There's other fandoms that can be like this. Sonic, MLP, and of course, Batman. There's some that think Batman should only be dark and gritty, some that think the Nolan series are the only true Batman films, and others who think only Kevin Conroy and Mark Hamill should voice Batman and Joker.

I don't think it's the fandom or the board itself so much as half the members seem like they hate each other.

The tags are always good if you feel like rolling your eyes.

Wouldn't not doing this be pointless and counter-productive?

Why?
I believe, if you have nothing to say, then it's better to say nothing at all, rather flood every topic with "whatever" thoughts.

Isn't that what I was just saying....?

a bit of both.


rudeness, insulting behavior, and down right insanity are the new norm on message boards these days.


gone is the way of most conversation, and in it's place is 'I'm right, your stupid if you think I'm wrong and boo on you'..attitude.

It's even worse now due to the rise of the insulting SJW and feminist behavior. that's one reason why the Block button is so important. and even that isn't 100% perfect in helping to keep your sanity online these days.

It's a playground or a prison exercise yard. Find the biggest baddest user, attack him, show you have no fear and that you're crazy.

Then don't be afraid to shiv the guards or the white supremacist gang down in the next cellblock.

Or, to return to the playground, analogy, hit the bully who was held back two years in a row with a rock when he tries to take your buddy's retainer.

Sorry, I am ****ed up. :tlol:

P.S.
Also, can moderators do something about idiotic tag?

Translation:
Wah! My safe space has been infiltrated by people I think are less than me and they demand I be treated as if they're my equals!

Erm, yeah, what exactly is "feminist behavior" in this fandom? Wishing for a few more female mutants...?

Why is feminist behavior is insulting and where does it appear in relation to TMNT?

Especially considering that TMNT always had a sizable female fanbase.

just referring to the new types of posts one often sees in fandom these days. not specific to tmnt but it is elsewhere.

just more of the toxicity you see online these days.

Every fandom is toxic to a degree.

What I've seen on this board is small potatoes compared to what's on Reddit, DeviantArt, and Tumblr. If anything, I think that the slightly antiquated quality that old style message boards have seems to weed out the really crazy people.

You equating feminism with toxicity is itself toxic and it's why I can't ****ing stand you

I can tell you this much: if a community is swamped with certain members who're constantly whining about feminism or "SJWs" (and said whining is usually triggered by absolutely nothing at all), that's not a place I wanna spend a lot of time. It's especially bizarre in this place. Just insane, obsessive axe-grinding that some folks are just desperate to dreg up and fight over.

In general, dudes who sincerely use terms like "SJW" and "cuck" are just... not gonna be pleasant to talk to or be around at any point. :lol:

That's.... Cubed in a nutshell. Say anything bad about the 2K3 or 2012 series and he'll randomly swoop down like a vulture to 'correct you' and explain 'why you're wrong' and why the character or episode you think sucks is actually the best ever and there's something wrong with you for thinking the opposite.

Lol what indeed.

When he thinks he has the final word and nothing else could be possibly said to disprove him, he calls for the thread to be locked.

Oh my god. I finally figured it out.... he's not a man. Not a troll. Not even a plant.

He's the living embodiment of the toxicity of the tmnt fanbase. It grew so powerful that it took human form and gained sentience. This probably happened some day in May I believe.

If so, he got cloned on other message boards.

another dude on the only forum I got banned on had the exact same MO. Only everyone pretty much universally agrees he's a Disney plant.

He insults your opinions. he berades and belittles you with ass like comments. and somehow gets away with it all too, because on that board if you have any kind of hollywood connection you apparently get free reign to be a jerk.

Not all of them. and some are so bad, they MAKE you crazy just trying to think up the weird 'logic' some people use and the complete 180 degree turns into insanity some people take totally out of the blue.

as rough as this place gets sometime, I find it's alot more sane than that other forum.

True, maybe the advent of social media has helped that? At least for the rapid fire ones who might find message boards and their bigger discussions too much work and easier to block them.


Am I the only one that immediately pictured the pink slime from Ghostbusters? lol

He might be.

To his credit, at least Cubed doesn't insult you too horribly. He just has trouble (or a stubborn refusal) admitting that other people have different opinions than his and his word isn't law.