No More New Marvel Netflix Shows; Disney Wanted to Buy Fox to Compete with the Stream
 

If you enjoy watching Marvel shows on Netflix, you might want to sit down for this: in the future, new Marvel shows will air on Disney’s in-development streaming service, leaving Netflix in the dust. This is all part of a larger plan Disney has to compete with Netflix, which included their as-of-now dead deal to purchase a large chunk of 21st Century Fox. The bottom line: the era of Marvel Netflix shows is nearing an end.

When Disney revealed they were planning on creating a new streaming service of their own, it seemed almost a given that they would start producing their own original content for it – which they later confirmed they would indeed be doing. But what about Disney produced content that already exists on other streaming services? Namely, the Marvel shows that are so popular on Netflix? It looks like Marvel’s Netflix days are numbered. A report in the Wall Street Journal confirms that future Marvel shows will play exclusively on Disney’s streaming service. There’s no word yet if the current Marvel Netflix shows – Daredevil, Luke Cage, Iron Fist, Jessica Jones, The Defenders and the upcoming The Punisher – would make the jump from Netflix to Disney’s service, but at this point I wouldn’t be surprised if that happened.

The WSJ story also confirms that Disney’s as-of-now stalled plan to buy a large chunk of 21st Century Fox was tied directly to their goals of trying to compete with Netflix. “[W]e’ve turned our attention to the one platform seeing growth challenges,” Disney Chief Strategy Officer Kevin Mayer says in the article. “That’s the television platform.” The Fox deal would’ve given Disney control of a large portion of Fox’s TV shows, which Disney would’ve then presumably moved over to their upcoming streaming service. Mayer also says to think of the Disney streaming service “not an anti-Netflix move, but a pro-Disney move.”

Disney is clearly determined to come out ahead here, but the transition isn’t going to be cheap or easy. In addition to having future Marvel shows premiere on their streaming service, Disney is also planning to pull all of their movies currently on Netflix and bring them over to their own streaming platform. The WSJ states that this movie is going to end up costing Disney $300-million-plus a year, but Disney seems confident their gamble will pay off with fans making the jump over to their new service.

Netflix, meanwhile, is continuing on their own quest for entertainment domination, with plans to spend at least $8 billion in creating original content for 2018. That’ll continue the head-start they already have on Disney, who plan to debut their streaming service in 2019.

http://www.slashfilm.com/no-more-new...netflix-shows/

I don't think the deal with Fox is remotely over.

of course they're going to pull the existing shows and air them on their own service. why wouldn't they?

so was this their plan all along?

thee ole 'bait em and get em hooked' routine.

If the current crop of Netflix (DD JJ Luke Cage Iron Fist and Defenders) Go to that streaming service. Disney can suck it royally.

So Disney wants to move their Marvel shows from Netflix to Piratebay. All right, that's fine. Probably not a ton of Marvel Netflix fans are interested in paying just for them, or to randomly watch "The Little Mermaid" or something.

ya I am just gonna wait till "sites" get them up and watch them for free. I am not paying Disney for shows that were originally on Netflix if they actually move them to the streaming service.

They're probably hoping Marvel and Star Wars together are enough to pull people in. I imagine they're going to have problems with retention, though, and they know it, which is why they tried to buy Fox and its slate of TV. They've probably got a solid base in parents who might toss the extra money a month out for a stream for the kids. How far that might take them, who knows.

I would think they could load up the service with decades of ABC content, but I’ve heard no such thing.

Hell no. Leave Jessica Jones and the boys on Netflix!

Disney is the only one that can actually easily compete with Netflix right now without having to build a huge library. They already have plenty of ontent which they can rotate around with new incoming one, with brands like Marvel, Star Wars, Pixar, ESPN and their different movie studios they have enough content for kids and adults.

In fact it's why Netflix is in trouble because they don't own enough of their own stuff and rely on others, this is why they invest heavily in original shows but even a lot of their originals they don't really own them, I remember reading about how many of those they don't really own so it does seem like Disney can pull the plug completely even on these Netflix originals.

I'm not happy to have all these companies with streaming services but it does seem like the future.

So...their new business model is hoping people don't forget to cancel their subscriptions after they've binged the one new show they've got?

Okay.

Yeah.

If I get a free month's subscription, all I need is Jessica Jones Season 2.

Disney, you don't get anymore of my money. You already get MCU and Pixar revenue from me. And all the Disney princesses stuff for my kids. You DON'T get my Defenders money!!!

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Honestly, if too many streaming services start cropping up, the whole thing is going to collapse again at some point. Part of why people love and turned to streaming in the first place is because it was cheap with a wide variety of things on offer. Once you start segmenting that too much, you run into problems, like not having enough content to actually keep people around, something Netflix already struggles with on occasion even now, which leads to cancellations. Then there's the fact that people also appreciate streaming for cost cutting measures, which stops making sense when eight million companies think they can just throw out a service on top of your internet bill, eventually adding up to what you were paying when you had cable to start with.

I can't imagine the majority of viewers DON'T hold the opinion of "one subscription, that's it." Seems like everybody on here does...

If I didn't spring for CBS All Access for STAR TREK, I'm sure as hell not springing for Disney's whatever-the-hell-it's-named to watch Defenders.

It's already segmented and we already have a ton of streaming services, but unlike say the DC one or the WWE network Disney actually has the content to make it worth the 15 dollars or however much they want charge. Do you guys not realize how big Disney is? They're the only company that can be a serious threat to Netflix in the short term.

Netflix is investing millions in shows because they know they're at the mercy of movies like the one Disney is doing. Anyone with kids who only wants one service is not going to keep Netflix.

From the reporter that covers Disney for the Wall Street Journal:

Ben Fritz
@benfritz
To answer the same question from a few people: The Marvel shows currently on Netflix, and any spin-offs from them, will stay on that platform
6:25 PM · Nov 9, 2017

wonderful glad I will still be able to watch Season 3 of DD on netflix

Yeah, the Netflix shows are staying put for now. What will happen after the announced seasons is anyone's guess. My guess is they'll stay on Netflix for at least one more season each (beyond the announced seasons, if they continue). That will take us to 2020/2021. At that point they may be wrapping up anyway, we'll have had 3 seasons of the 5 original shows (4 of DD) plus 2 of Punisher (assuming all continue). By then Disney will have a better idea of their own streaming service and whether it's worth the cost of moving them over or just continuing with Netflix (or ending the series).

Any new shows will be made for their own service. They've already confirmed a new Marvel show & a live action Star Wars series. That, along with a promised cheaper price than Netflix (to reflect less content) and Disney's massive back catalogue should make this worth checking out.

My plan with Netflix was just to sub for the months a new Marvel show came out, binge and then cancel, resubscribing for each new season. I've been subscribed since DD season 1 :lol: With Disney, I'm a massive fan of a lot of their stuff but that means I already own a lot on Blu-Ray so I likely will just sub and binge when the new shows go up. I'll be honest, they had me at live action Star Wars

As I've said before, depending on how much of the "Disney Vault" is accessible on the service (heck, I'd almost just call it the Disney Vault if I was Disney.) I could see it being worth it regardless of where the Marvel streaming series wind up.

But there's no reason not to put everything on there if they own it. It's no longer a supply/demand thing like with home video, everything should be available if it's a digital service.

That being said, it's Disney. Of course they'll force a whole bunch of annoying loopholes and the like over their precious movies.

Couldn't they also move the ABC stuff to their streaming service?

ABC, Freeform, all animated and live action movies that are currently in the "Disney Vault"...it could be huge.

https://www.comicbookmovie.com/marve...minent-a155836

It's still going. Announcement is "imminent."

I think they have FF in the bag for Phase 4 its just something I believe

Same. Been convinced of that ever since Legion and Gifted were announced. But announcing that would distract from Avengers 3 and 4.

Yes, exactly.

You guys are really certain about this, I hope you're right.

The FF, Dr. Doom, the Silver Surfer and Galactus would be the perfect additions to the MCU for Phase 4 and beyond

I'm not saying Fantastic Four characters and cosmic marvel wouldn't be great for Phase 4 but not at the expense of Disney owning Fox, this will take a toll on creativity for decades, nerd boners are not worth it, take an economics 101 class.

I'm more than OK with Marvel being allowed to make more of their Marvel properties into movies that they control. I do wonder what the greater ramifications seen though, for non-Marvel stuff... but maybe those aren't so negative either. What would entirely different higher-ups do with, say, the Alien franchise?

https://www.comicbookmovie.com/disne...assets-a156025

Disney is still #1 in the bidding war.

I shudder to think of what will happen to Kingsman 3 if Disney is in control.

Almost undoubtedly nothing at all. They wouldn't put it out under the Disney banner.

Has Disney done Marvel and Star Wars too much wrong? I really cant understand everyone's fear of the Mouse.

Or they could just have one of their subsidiaries release it.

Like, people need to realize that a lot of movies are "Disney" movies if traced back to parent companies. Kill Bill is a Disney movie.

Disney have done some right by Marvel, like locking out the comics division from meddling with the movies.

They seem to be micro-managing Star Wars to a divisive degree however.

"Walt Disney Co. and 21st Century Fox are closing in on a deal and it could come as soon as next week, according to sources familiar with the matter."

https://www.cnbc.com/amp/2017/12/05/...--sources.html

Yeah I'm excited too

If Disney does get the rights to Fox's Marvel characters, how would you have them introduce mutants and the X-Men into the MCU?

If they get the rights to the Fantastic Four, Dr. Doom, Galactus and the Silver Surfer I'd rather Marvel introduce them to the MCU first, there's a lot of story potential with the characters and they're some of my favorites

As far as mutants go, I think it could be done but they'd have to approach it carefully. I wouldn't want them to introduce mutants and retcon things so that they've always been around, with mutants dating back to ancient times (sorry not sorry, Apocalypse). I think introducing mutant evolution would work better as a story set in present-day, but then still I would think they'd need to spend a lot of time thinking about whether they really wanted to introduce them to the MCU because they carry so much baggage with them. A lot of their mutation-based powers make no sense and that's one area in which I have trouble with extending my suspension-of-disbelief.

I did always like this alternate take on the X-men mythos though

I think one of two ways. There's supposedly a lot of reality altering stuff, multiversal kind of things going on in one or both of the next Avengers movies with Thanos... it is possible at some point things could get fractured and POOF, guess who's been around since forever? Mutants.

Or maybe they include a scene of the X-Men coming in for a big save at the end of Avengers 4, and that being their big "we are mutants, we are among you!" unveiling. And suddenly the world realizes what's been going on at Xavier's mansion/school for all of these decades. Hell, maybe SHIELD or Hydra-SHIELD even knew about them, kept them on watch lists.

The Marvel Studios tone/style would actually work really well for the FF.