Most Violent moments in the Old Cartoon
 

Recently, I watched the 2nd Nick/80s crossover again and one of the main points of that special (the turtles not using their weapons) got me thinking, what exactly were the most violent moment of the Old Toon?

Usually, the fights were usually slapstick but there were always exceptions which makes me wonder what the standouts would be. I can't remember too many off the top of my head since I haven't watched through the OT in a while but a few that come to mind are 80s Leo stabbing the plant monster in season 2 and Shredder blowing up the channel six building in season 8.

Shredder blowing up Channel Six, hands down.

That was especially gruesome, considering that we didn't know Splinter and the Channel Six crew escaped until the very end and it was the 1st episode of the Red Sky seasons so nobody knew what to expect.

Probably Seymour Guts floating in the mutagen mix with all his body parts separated before he became Mutagen Man?

Yeah that one was rather graphic. Rocksteady and Bebop evne said something like "the guy is done for", and Krang just said "who cares about that? he's gonna ruin the mutagen!"... I mean Krang was a warlord. Obviously the deaths of others didn't bother him.

And what about Baxter being turned into a fly? It was obvious Krang was trying to kill him. And for a second or two it seemed like he was gonna die. We even saw his skeleton... hell, in that same episode April almost died from poisonous flowers. That was a bit risky for an 80s cartoon episode.

There are a lot of episodes the Turtles or April are tied to machines or conveyor belts that would lead to them being sliced and diced, crushed, burned, etc....but of course they always free themselves in time. Or episodes where rockets or bombs are being set after them and they escape the last minute.

I recently remembered another moment.

In the season 4 episode "Name that Toon", Donatello and Shredder get into a fight which ultimately results in Shredder winning, but before that Donatello smacks him in the face with his bo staff.

There weren't any injuries or anything, but hearing Shredder howl in pain after what happened to him, I was like Yikes :teek:

Yeah I definitely remember that. Also, I remember immediately after that where Donatello was going in "for the kill" after Shredder was on the floor dazed briefly(before getting kicked away by him).

Lol, really Donatello was probably the most brutal of the Turtles in the original series, particularly where the Shredder was concerned. I also remember in season 7 where he was about to drop him from a great height and onto a machine. Sure, he may not exactly have been himself at the time, but it was still him though.

Everyone inside was saved, reducing it all to vandalism.

That's not how it works. At all.

That’s the one violent moment that stands out for me, as I actually thought Shredder was hit in the eye by Donatello. That must have hurt a lot, especially since James Avery did a good job at portraying it.

Uh, no. It was a flat out attempt at mass murder. He BLEW UP a building FULL of people! They only escaped with Splinter's help. And even then, it was destruction of property at the LEAST, and terrorism at worst.

The Technodrome ran over a few buildings in the Season 3 finale.

Everyone inside probably managed to evacuate. Almost a rule in a children's series.

Except that it is in New York and you never see anyone coming out of them, nor out in the streets. More likely anyone inside was crushed to death-we just don't SEE them. But implied death is still pretty grim and grusome.

Just had a random thought about a moment in season 3, its not really violent but it would've seemed really gruesome out of context.

Remember the epsiode "Michelangelo's Birthday"?. In that, Shredder tricks the turtles into believing that he turned Michelangelo into a steaming hot pile of goo. Of course, we know that wasn't the case but if a kid turned on the tv after Mikey was shown escaping, they would've been devastated.

Even the threat/act of trying it would be pretty morbid. It was Batman/Bond-villain level violence for sure. "Will he escape? Find out next week- same turtle-time, same turtle-channel!"

"I can see their parachutes! They're okay."

Too bad its Sunday, those buildings would've been full tomorrow.

No doubt.

It would have been a tragedy for all those souls to travel over into another dimension simultaneously.

...what abotu that episode where Donatello turns int oa giant and fights a gorilla? How many buildings do they even destroy?! Donatello himself even said "they must have wasted the entire budget on this episode". The damage they made to NYC was equivalent to that of a massive earthquake. They must have killed a lot of people.

More violent than that was sitting through that entire episode. Holy hell was that episode bad.

Funny you say that, since that is one of my favourite episodes which I have revised countless times :lol:

It has lots of funny moments, and the cheap animation makes it even funnier.

The eps with that rubbery looking animation always amused me. I don't prefer the show looking like that, but that kind of animation style had a weird charm to it. It's hard to describe really.

Extraterrestrial plant killed by Leonardo in "It Came from Beneath the Sewers".

Extraterrestrial monster killed offscreen in "Splinter No More".

There's one ep in the European Vacation eps where the Rock Soldiers just smash to the ground and blow up as if they're robots like Foot Soldiers, rather than alien rock beings. I guess whoever wrote that episode didn't know the Rock Soldiers weren't robots. :lol:

I wonder if it was AKOM although they're only credited for two episodes I believe. What do you think guys?

Macc
 

MACC blasted rock soldiers into pieces with his laser-rays in "Attack of the Big MACC".

Big MACC didn't mess around when it pulled out the blasters!

Was that "Ring of Fire" or "The Lost Queen of Atlantis"?

Yeah, the show was full of some rather would-have-been-gruesome deaths had the heroes not saved the day in the nick of time. One episode was threatening to basically boil April and Irma alive in a giant vat of melted wax, leaving them as creepy wax statues.

Then we have Krang threatening to throw Splinter off a building. He had no problem 'making the rat go splat'.

Shredder didn't give a damn about letting April fall to her death of a building under contruction. Baxter was willing to leave the Turtles to be crunched to bits within the giant gears inside a clock tower.

I mean as incompetent and goofy as OT Shredder was, he was willing to douse Mike with acid and just joke about it as he's be screaming violently as it would have reduced him to goo. That one was probably the sickest one of the entire series.

The fight with human ninja enemies in red sky.

I don't remember that one being particularly violent.

A Technorover also rolled over cars in the "Big Zipp Attack". But as I said, people escaped.

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... Yeah, seriously doubt there was a lot of this in the show...

If violence is defined as behaviour intended to hurt, shouldn't every one of Shredder and Krang's schemes be considered violent? They usually never go through with it, but the intention to kill the turtles and take over the world is always there.

Funny thing is, in a lot of those scenes, we never see anyone running away. So either they were crushed before they could, or New York is full of empty cars. Having seen the city, I doubt the latter is true.....

Logically, people will die when the buildings and cars of New York are crushed flat but it just couldn't be shown in the 80s series. Same with Beserko, we are told Krang committed genocide on his entire race but that can't be shown, not even through flashbacks.

In the Nick series however, when 80s Krang appears for the second time in his enlarged body, he is shown firing at civilians without mercy, and is shown to enjoy it. He even shoots April unconscious.

I never quite got why the villains in the 80s series were portrayed as not wanting to destroy the multiverse in Turtles Forever when thats precisely what they did in their own show.

"Alright, they're robots!"
*Brutally hacks them apart*

Got some bloodlust to get out there, Leonardo?

In the Season 7 finale Rocksteady/Bebop almost shoot the Channel 6 news crew off the building. They destroy the glass window behind them and were shooting the flaw to make them back up and fall off the 10 story building.

No one mentioned Baxter Stockman?

Dude was legit sent to get killed off by Krang and we get to see it happen, sure he somehow merged with a fly instead but that's not what they were planning to have happen with that.