Next Mutation
 

I really tried to give it a chance but man it's rough.

When I was with Ceres, after dropping PrincessUtrom off at the airport, we each knocked out half a bottle of carbonated wine watching the first five episodes.

What I remember is blurry, but painful. But at the very least, I remember getting a good laugh out of Venus telling Michelangelo his head was empty.


In hindsight, the only thing that could have made Shredder's redemption 10 times more corny, was if he immediately asked "do you know know where my mother is?"

The yeti guy with Dick Tracy goons is funny all baddies are white of course.

It's a pretty terrible show on all accounts, I can't imagine anyone giving it genuine praise. It's fascinating how a show with sound design this obnoxious was ever approved, it's extremely distracting.

The closest thing to a positive I can say about this show is that it's short, and therefore a little easier to sit through than all of the FW cartoon. The avarage episode of the FW cartoon is technically better, because they just bore me rather than annoy me, but I'd still rather be annoyed for 9 hours than bored for 3 days. That's not really a positive since it's only in comparison to something else I dislike, it's just the best argument I can some up with for watching it.

You gotta approach it from the "this is so terrible that it's funny" mindset. :trazz:

Who ever thought using the same hokey formula and sound effects concept that the Power Rangers use was a good idea was clueless about TMNT. I mean, when I haven't watched an episode of the Rangers a day in my life, only the commercials, but immediately could tell who produced Next Mutation when I binge watched it a few years ago, seeing it for the first time... *sigh*

I only took a glance at this show, my sister was looking for TMNT for my son to watch on her tablet and that came up, we were like 'what?', it didn't look like something I feel I want to explore.

Power Rangers isn't exactly good either, it's literally just the Sentai shows edited to be disguised as an American production. And even that doesn't come across as genuine, most of the actors they use are New Zealanders and the new footage is filmed in New Zealand as well. So you have this weird mix of Tokyo and (I think) Auckland footage that allegedly represents California, and you're supposed to buy it because of obviously fake American accents. It's bizarre.

Oh right, and the sound mixing and "hijinks" added in even before they moved to New Zealand sucks too. I just can't say it's quite as bad as Next Mutation, since you still get some decent choreography and puppets (even if I'd recommend that you'd watch the real shows rather the US/NZ clusterF-word).

I have access to the Next Mutation on Netflix but I still haven't seen it yet. Plan to marathon it soon.

Its a shame however, when I heard that the theme song was changed because I liked the original.

Next Mutation makes TMNT 3 look like Citizen Kane :lol:

Okay, that's kind of hilarious. :tlol:




Tell you what though, since Mystery Science Theater 3000 came back (which I just realized is a Netflix thing so no wonder I haven't actually seen it), I really want them to do shows like Next Mutation and the two newest TMNT films. If anything like the original '3000' series, that would be awesome. :trazz:

People won't admit it but the best Saban live action adventure series in terms of creativity and depth is still Mystic Knights of Tir Na Nog. Obviously it's the least appreciated! :roll:

That doesn't make me want to watch it. A small thing but it kind of made the show somewhat any good. I just can't believe a TV series would lose the rights to it's own theme song...

Well, I finished the vampires were the best villians.

I've watched the New Zealand power rangers they never say they are in the US.

The noises confuse me the occasional one wouldn't have been bad but it was constant.

I just started watching this on Netflix the other day, holy sh!t finally a TMNT show I actually like :lol:

I mean yeah I watched the Fred Wolf cartoon back when I was a kid but as an adult I can't get into it anymore. The 2K3 show came out when I was a young teen and wasn't spending much time watching TV and the Nick show just never appealed to me. I went into this expecting it to be awful but because of that I was open-minded and willing to just take it for what it is, which is an off-the-wall bonkers interpretation of TMNT. It's like the TMNT were turned into a live-action anime. I can totally see the Saban Entertainment influence; I am strongly reminded of watching Power Rangers and Beetleborgs at my old babysitter's house in California.

I'm gonna finish the series and see how I like the rest of it. So far it's at least been more watchable to me than any of the TMNT cartoons.

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As a true Saban show, it gets both better and worse as it goes on. I've never watched the Netflix version so I"m unsure if the new soundtrack is better or worse. Don't forget to watch the Power Rangers/Next Mutation crossover which is the third episode of Power Rangers in Space. It makes no sense but it's awesome seeing the turles and rangers fight each other, it also features the best fight scenes the TNM ever had since I guess the Power Rangers team had better stunt actors.

I'm gonna derail this thread... UM, you hang out with not one, but two fellow Dromies? And fellow Ootie enthusiasts as well?

The only good thing I can say about the Next Mutation is that its great for insomnia.

the footage was okay, but the sound design was just the worst.


could have been done so much better.

if they focused on more dramatic fighting scenes, i think it could have easily been one of the best shows.

One such episode would have been "The Good Dragon", had lots of potential.

The costumes and animatronics were decent enough, but the dialog and acting is what failed in my opinion. Also some of the storylines were pretty cheesy. It comes off like a goofball cheesy type of satire or something, much like the 1966 Batman TV series. I guess it's a show aimed at being goofy and to not be taken too seriously.

Then there's random stuff like Silver. It's like, "Hey, it's a humanoid talking gorilla in a business suit," and it's treated like this completely normal, expected thing to see. Right? They didn't even bother to explain Silver, did they?

I think he was a yeti or somesuch? . . . which means he can speak english?! . . . and that's about all we got. :ohwell:

Yeah, he's just "the last Yeti", and he somehow made his way from Tibet (or somewhere thereabouts) to New York City where he built a criminal empire.

The show is so goofy, it's hard to be mad at it. They made some weird design choices (Donnie's face mask, chiefly) and a LOT of weird story choices (Venus). And it's pretty cheap too, judging by how often they reuse certain shots (Raph starting up his motorcycle while the other Turtles hop in their Hummer). The audio embellishment is nonstop, and the Turtles are constantly yelling really, really bad one-liners that don't even make sense.

But then there are some things that I think are worth further exploration like the spirit realm, Dragon Lord, and supernatural enemies like vampires.

Anyways, I'm about halfway through the show now, I'm gonna keep watching an episode or two at night. Maybe when I'm done I'll finally be inspired to get through all of the OT, 2K3 and Nick series.

I plan to watch Next Mutation alongside Rise of the Tmnt. Look forward to it, I'm even wondering which one I'm gonna like better :lol:

Rise sounds like its gonna be better but I'm hugely into nostalgic/90s stuff so NM might grow on me like it has with other users here.

Remember to watch the TMNT crossover with the In Space Power Rangers while you're at it! :) I'll be doing the same.

That crossover episode, the movie from last year that I still haven't seen, and a list posted on CBR today all have me thinking I might want to try and watch all the different Power Rangers series if I can find them through convenient streams

What's wrong with Silver the gangster? He's awesome and to me it makes perfect sense that a talking yeti who becomes a gangster would exist in the turtles universe, no origin is needed.

I haven't seen the movie either but I must, too bad it won't have a sequel but apparently it's good. I just hated the suits.

The cross-over is the worst TNM and Power Rangers In Space episode and yet I like them because it's my two childhood heroes teaming up. The continuity doesn't make much sense but at least the fight choreography is the best TNM ever had (likely since it was a PR episode).

All Power Ranger shows are on Netflix to stream including the latest season and the newer seasons are usually added after it ends. I'm a big PRs fan but I cannot watch too much power rangers before getting tired, a season or two fills my PR fix for a year :lol: But there's plenty of cool stuff there if you can live with the cheese and bad acting.

You should check out Super Sentai(the original Japanese shows that Power Rangers took some footage from). Those are a lot better!

Not that continuity is a strong point in Next Mutation... does anyone know at what point in the series it's best to watch the Power Rangers crossover? Or like, at least knows where it fits chronologically by release date?

Meh, Sentai can have it's duds as well. I can count at least five PR seasons that are superior to five of theirs.

I had a toxic view of this show for years, but recently I gave the whole series a watch, and I have to say I enjoyed it!

Take it as a cheesy, wacky take on the turtles and, approach it in that manner and it can be fun to watch.

At any point after the pilot it can be watched continuity wise, I'd watch it after halfway through the show though since Venus is well integrated into the group but I'd watch it before the final episodes which if we go by airdate order it was like that when it happened.

Since the episode was written by the Power Rangers crew and no TNM the turtles act all out of character, they're all acting like Michaelangelo, the voices are also all different and not for the better. The TMNT and PRs both think each other is fictional and yet Venus knows of Astronema and Astronema knew of the turtles. In general it doesn't make much sense but the fight scenes are cool.

It should be noted that the crossover actually begins the episode before Shell Shocked. The epilogue of the previous Power Rangers In Space episode "Save Our Ship" ends with Astronema saying she know some friends who can help her in NY and meets the turtles", it's a 30 second segment or so but yeah technically the crossover starts there.

I'm sure they're better written but what I enjoy about Power Rangers is the cheesyness/nostalgia/continuity which Sentai doesn't have for me, and for pure tokusatsu in japanese I can find better stuff than super sentai like Kamen Rider/Garo etc so I just don't have time for Sentai.

One thing I can never accuse The Next Mutation of is being boring. :lol: