Wonder Woman 2
 

Since there's no thread for the Wonder Woman Sequel. I thought I create it.

Kristen Wiig is in talks to play the Villain Cheetah for Wonder Woman 2. The sequel will be set in the 80s during the Cold War.
http://deadline.com/2018/02/kristen-...n2-1202306419/

Cheetah, yes.

Kristen Wiig, maybe.

Cold War... why? Can we not move forward to post-Justice League? This sequel really didn't need to be another BvS prequel. Oh well, Jenkins and Gal made a great first movie; I'm confident they'll go 2 for 2.

I dunno... I've read a lot of Cheetah appearances and there's nothing in Wiig's resume that would lead me to believe she's remotely suited for "ferocious, bloodthirsty femme fatale with muscles."

There will probably be another modern day framing device, like with the first movie.

It's actually necessary, in a way. WW at the end of WW is certainly not the same WW we saw in BvS. But then Gal Gadot said that was just retconned away, or something. Dumb.

The Cold War itself isn't a very exciting choice, though.

I rather she fight human soldiers again than the boring CGI monsters like in Suicide Squad and Justice League.

Yeah, well as far as Wiig, what you're saying about her sounds a lot like what people had to say about Gadot back in 2015. I'm willing to give her the chance, even though I agree that I can think of a handful of women I think would be better choices... Charlize Theron, naturally; Sofia Boutella; Rachel McAdams; Eva Green...

Eh, considering how patchwork the DCEU has been, I'm not going to complain about such a relatively minor retcon. It just feels like playing it way too safe when you end up doing a Wonder Woman prequel trilogy. :tlol:

I hope Cheetah looks kind of like the Injustice 2 version.

https://www.gamereactor.es/media/grt...06703_w926.jpg

Seems they are trying to keep WW solo movies away from the rest of the DCCU.
Can't blame them.

http://www.aintitcool.com/node/79506

This one says Emma Stone for Cheetah.

I read elsewhere that Emma Stone turned down the role.

In the meantime. Check out this Fan Art of Kristin Wiig as Cheetah courtesy of BossLogic.
https://twitter.com/Bosslogic/status...tah-fan-art%2F

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DXLQQJuVMAAFiGp.jpg

I happy for the villain choice but Kristen Wiig..really! Too bad Emma Stone turned it down.

Looks very uncanny valley.
I hope they will figure out something better.

Wonder Woman doesn't have a good rogues gallery outside the typical greek god characters like Hades, Ares, etc.

Outside of Cheetah who else is there? Giganta?

Silver Swan, Ares, Hades, Medusa, Circe the Sorceress, Cheetah, the First Born.

Maxwell Lord would certainly qualify! Oh, and Veronica Cale.

Strife was awesome in the New 52. Ooh, what about bringing over Gorilla Grodd?

Or, do what Justice League couldn't... Darkseid and Grail!!!

Plenty of badass foes right there.

When I heard the news that Cheetah would be the villain in WW2 I was hella excited; I'm a sucker for cat-based super characters.

When I heard Emma Stone turned down the role I was relieved (nothing against Stone I just don't think she'd be right for the part)

When I heard Kristen Wiig was being considered I was pretty nonplussed but after seeing that fan-art I think she could be a good fit if they approach the character the right way

Genocide.

https://static.comicvine.com/uploads...nder_woman.jpg

Silver Swan.

https://static.comicvine.com/uploads...-terraman3.jpg

Strife.

http://www.placesandpredators.com/PP...derWoman2c.jpg

Lu Shan.

http://www.writeups.org/wp-content/u...n-Nehwon-a.jpg

Red Panzer.

https://static.comicvine.com/uploads...red-panzer.jpg

Decay.

https://static.comicvine.com/uploads...77-decay12.jpg

Devastation.

https://static.comicvine.com/uploads...54484-dev1.jpg

As Andrew and I have pointed out, Wonder Woman has plenty of villains.

The character we should be worrying about who DOESN'T have many villains is Cyborg. Although there's still no way that movie is actually going to happen. :tlol:

I will sound like CyberCubed now, but I am pretty sure that aside from Cheetah and Circe very few people know any of the guys posted above.

I am not particularly well-versed in the comic books, but I've heard about some characters in passing and almost all of those gals and guys posted by Andrew are unknown to me. Which of course doesn't mean that it is how for everyone else.

Yup, I barely know Cheetah and only because of the DC animated films.

Cheetah was in Justice League Unlimited and Brave and the Bold cartoons. As well as the old Superfriends show in the 70's. She's probably the most well known Wonder Woman villain.

Of course to me she's always felt like, "discount Catwoman" but I admit that's because I don't read comics. :P

I'm surprised that anyone is surprised that Wonder Woman's rogues gallery is relatively unknown. It's only in recent years WW has gotten into the mainstream... let alone her rogue's gallery. No one is going to know who any of her rogue's are until they stick them in a movie, or in a WW cartoon or something. There's tons to draw from in the comics. Good ones.

"Genocide" has the coollest origin of all. It's like her own Doomsday. Some bad guys plucked Wonder Woman's own dead body from the distant future, animated it, made it evil, and sent it against Wonder Woman in the present. Genocide even took WW's whip and, like, threaded it through its own body to make it even more powerful.

Marston would have liked it.

I think even most comic fans don't know a lot about her rogues, so it's not your fault. I've always paid more attention to DC and, Ares aside for obvious reasons, I could only really name Circe, Cheetah, Veronica Cale and Silver Swan off the top of my head. And Genocide sometimes, though I'd spaced her until Andrew brought her up.

I looked up a lot of the rogues mentioned, as well as other ones, and it seems a lot of her enemies were left behind in the Silver Age or just never appeared much beyond first appearances or revamps. She's got a long list of minor villains, suggesting a lot were created for her, but surprisingly few stuck.

To be fair most villains for the non-Batman/Superman characters are a blank to me.

I know Flash's because they appear often like Grodd, Mirror Master, Captain Boomerang, Captain Cold, Reverse Flash, but I don't know too many others. From Green Lantern I just know Sinestro, and uh...? I know they help out with all other villains like Despero, Darkseid's forces, the Reach, etc.

The other thing is when they're in the Justice League all the villains generally become Superman villains since they fight everyone.

A Star Sapphire and the Manhunters were in JLU, so you might remember those GL villains. Other than that he has Hector Hammond, Black Hand, Nekron and some villains occasionally on loan from another hero like Mongul. He has some memorable rogues, but they don't show up much outside GL's books, probably because they're all space based and everyone else in the DCU is on Earth.

Sinestro
Krona
Nekron
Black Hand
Sonar
Sonar II
Tattooed Man
The Shark
Qwardians
Mongul
Mongul II
Cyborg Superman
Atrocitus
Larfleeze
Star Sapphire
The Predator
Appa Ali Apsa

Were those just off the top of your head? Damn. You really know your Green Lantern. I didn't realize Tattooed Man was a GL villain, but then I'm only familiar with the more recent one that Grant Morrison used in Final Crisis.

I completely spaced Krona. I should have remembered him.

Not tooting my own horn but I own all Green Lantern comics ever. Even golden age.

I also own www.thegreenlanterncorps.com

Shame on me for not mentioning Parallax. Or Hal Jordan. They actually should have left him a villain.

Did you liked recent Green Lantern movie?

I enjoyed it. I mean, it was far from great and had serious problems but I don't think it deserved even half of the crap it got. At a certain point it just became fashionable to hate on the movie and that was that.

From a GL fan standpoint, though, yikes. They make Krona and Parallax, both UBER and enormous GL villains from huge and multiple giant storylines in the comics with generations worth of fans... into entirely different characters and then burn them both at the same time? Remove Hal's entire personality and replace it with Kyle's? Double yikes. The obviously Geoff Johns-pushed "Look! You're gonna get my Sinestro Corps War in the sequel!!" cliffhanger was lame.

That said, I don't feel like the movie did so much damage that it needed to be swept under the rug. The movie was reasonably entertaining. The Corps behaved like the Corps. Kilowog was great (and I think one of the last performances of any kind of Michael Clarke Duncan). The constructs seemed sound. Everything on Oa was great. Sinestro was great. A sequel could have massaged the things that didn't work in this one and moved forward. Fun fact: the guy that played Tom "Pieface" Kalmaku in this movie is the director of Thor: Ragnarok.

Yeah, I was really looking forward to seeing Green Lantern integrated with Man of Steel and so on. There is no reason they shouldn't have and even less reason they shouldn't have included a GL in their Justice League movie (which absolutely deserved to fail). Chickenshits.

I only knew 4.

And most of those where from the Animated JL series.

I just can't get into Wonder Woman and Thor, I dislike the concept of classical greek/norse gods in the DC/Marvel universe, doesn't mesh well. I've enjoyed plenty of great stories from them but I'd rather they not exist.

what I find odd, is a scene in the Justice League animated series. Wonder Woman is visited by the greek god of speed, which is basically the original flash. kidn of weird having two speedsters like that, one immortal :).

I really didn't like Grant Morrison revealing that Black Flash is exactly the same character as the Black Racer from the New Gods. I don't think anyone ever acknowledged that afterward, though.

When I finally watched it, I had the same reaction (but as a non-GL fan). It's nothing special, but it's passable. Not sure why everybody hated it. The audience has had love for far worse movies in the recent past. :tlol:

I went into that movie really wanting to like it, but it didn't work for me.
Ryan Reynolds tried really hard, but...it was too much flash, and no where near enough bang.

That's a lot of Green Lantern. Favorite DC hero, I take it? I like the Lanterns, but I'm not a regular reader. I've read the different series off and on since Kyle was still the main one.

I used to feel that way, but I've grown to like Thor a lot and have started warming up to Wonder Woman. I think it helps that, in Thors case, a lot of those gods or supporting characters are pretty great in their own right/ Marvels version of Hercules helps a lot too. But I can understand people who just don't want to deal with riffs on Norse and Greek mythology in their superheroes, because I was kind of like that too.

Kyle Rayner's my guy. Too bad Geoff Johns has made a career out of marginalizing him after he frat boyed his way into the upper echelons of DC.

If you watch Welcome to me, she's incredible. That crazy seems to line up exactly with this crazy:

From Wikipedia:

The first woman to become the Cheetah, in Wonder Woman #6 (October 1943), is Priscilla Rich, a 1940s-era blonde Washington, D.C. debutante of aristocratic upbringing who also has an overwhelming inferiority complex and suffers from a split personality and self-importance. After being eclipsed by Wonder Woman at a charity event and failing to kill her during an escapology act, Priscilla retreats to her room and collapses before her makeup mirror. There she sees an image of a woman dressed like a cheetah. "Horrors!" she cries, as she gazes at her evil inner-self for the first time. "Don't you know me?" replies the reflection. "I am the REAL you—the Cheetah—a treacherous, relentless huntress!" The image commands her to fashion a Cheetah costume from a cheetah-skin rug. "From now on," intones the reflection, "when I command you, you shall go forth dressed like your TRUE self and do as I command you..." The Cheetah frames Wonder Woman for a robbery by hiding the money in her apartment and tipping off the police, then sets fire to a warehouse Wonder Woman is in, although Wonder Woman escapes. She is presumed dead, but survives thanks to her fireproof costume.

They can make her in CGI, if they need battle scenes (which most likely will be the case anyway).

DC Rebirth/current comic book era Barbara Minerva seems like a great fit for someone like Wiig--a socially awkward intellectual and adventurer.