Maryland school shooting leaves 2 students injured, gunman dead
 

“After shooting two students at a Maryland high school on Tuesday, the gunman was shot and killed by a school resource officer.“

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.vox...yland-shooting

No deaths except for the shooter. Excellent.

I don't expect we'll be seeing too much about this in the news. Doesn't suit the narrative at all.

At least this school officer wasn't a complete pussy like the one in Florida was.

Bingo.

Nobody but the shooter died. Read.

I don't know about you lot, but I've still got my BINGO card ready and waiting.

In the meantime, someone reset the counter.

Update:
reuters

"Someone who did not follow even the existing gun laws brought a gun to school, shot people, and was subsequently shot and killed by an armed guard in the school."

That's what I'm getting out of this.

Another school shooting in America.

There are tons of media outlets that are reporting the story.

I think he means in America

And he's right; it's not getting anywhere near as much press as the last school shooting

Of course not, no one but the shooter died.

This doesnt fit the narrative of "all guns are EVIL!!!!!!" so they wont talk about this as much as they did Florida.

Huh, its almost like more people died in Florida than in Maryland also stricter gun control doesn't equal to "all guns are evil"

Sad, but I'm glad it was stopped quickly and only the shooter has died.

Narrative? The narrative should be that he was shot by "a school resource officer," as one who should be properly armed, not teachers. They hired the right guy for the job. More schools need guys like him, and never just one on duty.

Can't say I've been looking too much for coverage of it so no idea how much it's being covered on the news (I'd originally just heard about it on the local news this morning, prior to the gunman even dying), but honestly it would not surprise me too much if it's covered less. Given the fact that it was both a smaller, shorter incident and happened in Maryland rather than a more high profile state. If it had happened next door in my own state it would probably be nationally heard about even less, if at all. Smaller and/or more quietly existing states don't tend to get as much coverage unless an event was rather large/tragic, so I don't think it's just some conspiracy minded "narrative" issue. If this was in a more high profile state or city (or if it was in a part of MD just outside of D.C.) they'd never stop talking about it.

Of course the narrative is going to be the good guy with the gun stops the bad guy with a gun, and not how did the bad guy get the gun in the first place?

And why did he think he had the right to go after that girl in the first place? Where was he radicalized? And by whom?

Because at the end of the day dealing with that is what's going to stop these shootings more efficiently.

I hope someone keeps tabs on the girls so we know exactly how long it takes her to recover from this, if she ever fully recovers from this.

And on the health and well-being of the good guy with the gun, because he just killed a kid.

Probably the section of the internet that is more than eager to validate someone's twisted views and tells them what they want to hear...that they don't have to take any personal responsibility, and that when life sucks and your ego hurts, esp when a girl is involved, it's always someone else's fault and people must pay for it. Even if they're uninvolved innocents.


We just had an adult version of him/them arrested the other day in this area after some guy in his 40s decided to set off a bomb in front of the home of his estranged wife's family. And had a few more explosive devices (at least one of them a pipe bomb) in his home. When did people lose this much touch with reality...

Meanwhile, in other news.....

Austin has been dealing with a series of package bombs, using several different methods of detonation and/or delivery. Started with boxes at people's houses, then trip wires, and now they are actually having them shipped. Several people have been injured, and two have died, yet it doesn't seem to be getting any coverage except local news.....

Well it's certainly not terrorism, so says the White House.

Oh, no, I've been hearing about that one too over here. If they're all related, someone is some kind of psycho.

I feel for the FedEx people, given that they handle boxes every day... Talk about PTSD over fearing any other might blow next. :ohwell:

Not that HE even knows the difference. I tend to disagree. The whole city is apparently on alert, and two more were found today.

Who knows why bad guys do bad things? I'm sure we'll get a better picture of his motivations in the days ahead.

What I do know is that if that school hadn't had an actual countermeasure in place for an in progress shooting, we could've had as many or more victims as Florida.

It's sad to think about. This isn't as newsworthy as Florida because (the left narrative aside) nobody died... yet how isn't the saving of potentially so many lives not equally newsworthy as lives lost? Or important?

Exception that proves the rule but we'll see this case be brought up every time another tragedy happens.

Why is this only a major problem in the US?

That truly is the big question, I think. We've had guns here for a very long time... even actual assault rifles and automatic weapons were legal here once. Yet no school shootings then. Did we just suddenly see an upsurge of mental health issues in the last couple of decades?

The problem is complicated and multi-faceted, but it's ultimately societal, I think. There is no quick fix but it begins with good parenting. We are in an age where parents can just throw YouTube in front of the kids and walk away, and they can get fired up over any cause they find to fight for, or romanticize killers of the past and galvanize whatever state they're in with whatever they're going through (rough breakup, kids don't like me, blah blah). I don't have a great perspective into what teenagers go through nowadays in their teenage years but I suspect it is very different than what I knew... and not for the better in many ways.

Wrapping ourselves in a bubble of further legislation will do nothing.

What is the rate of younger people (13-21 year olds) committing violent crimes in other countries compared with the US? I haven’t seen any statistics.

"Its 4:03...I can't sleep...." Shinedown haha seriously I cant sleep :ohwell:

Here you go though
This is the national crime stat for 2016

https://ucr.fbi.gov/crime-in-the-u.s...ables/table-20

Is that only US stats? I’m curious if the youth in America are more violent than other youth around the globe.

The question is complex. I mean, I'm certain there is 30 countries where kids run in the street in packs violently mugging people freely everyday and it's not remotely newsworthy because it is so commonplace (I know this, actually), but that's hardly a valid comparison piece to the US. However, there is a large number of countries that have guns, like, everywhere, all the time, in almost all places (and we are talking actual assault rifles and more) and it's no big deal and there is 0 school shootings.

Yeah can’t compare mugging to murder or attempted murder. I’d like to know the percent of murders or attempted murders in other countries that are committed by those under 21 years old. And how that number compares with the US.

An inherent problem with this question is... the countries that have the most of such things, they're hardly keeping a tally. Or even publicly newsiszing anything. But it's happening. It's not even that hard to look up and see actual videos of such.

Which brings up another issue. We're a country that thrives in media. 300 networks starving for breaking or topical or politically aiding (with two competing sides, even) news stories. Do you think many other countries have anything remotely resembling this climate outside of maybe some parts of the UK?

Not really even the UK. You have three, maybe four national covering news networks (including the BBC obviously), and a lot of local news factions, but local news here is a byword for fluffy pieces to camera usually. Local interest stories, usually nothing hard hitting, but sometimes campaigns and protests that affect local residents and the such.

I certainly heard about it because it's been covered here in the UK...

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-43453237

Oddly enough, Fox News channel didn't seem to be covering it- until this morning, and then only because he was caught and blew himself up rather than be arrested. That is literally the first coverage I've seen nationally. Even the local news only gave it minimal coverage until a couple of days ago, which is strange, to be sure. I guess shooters warrent more attention than bombers? I dunno.....

The ever dreaded social justice corner of the internet has been covering it since it began, because of the first four bombs same to target prominent Black families.

Curious who the suspect was, will they to have had a history of domestic abuse?

Yeah I am pretty annoyed I have not seen CNN or MSNCB cover it all. I have only seen Fox covering it. But I could have just tuned into Fox at the right time and the other two at the wrong time. But thankfully they have appeared to have found the perpetrator.

So another angry young white guy has been trying to blow up my fellow citizens for the past few weeks.

We got him this morning.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/crime...led/ar-BBKuTIY

It's not a gun problem, it's a people problem.

Sounds like a very specific kind of people problem though.
And that maybe it might be a good idea to address that.

Resource officer's quick action stopped the Maryland school shooter within seconds
 

Recent update from CNN.

“The school shooting was over in seconds. But it could have dragged on longer and proven deadlier were it not for the rapid response of a school resource officer.“

https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.cnn...rnd/index.html

From what I've been able to gather when I get to talk to early/mid teens as a teacher it's basically the same dumb things as always but with social media added to the mix.

When I was a teenager the internet wasn't "serious business" with teens like it is now, but it's really nothing new really. Only difference is the average teenager who doesn't understand technology is able to access the internet's darkest corners and they don't know how to deal with it when in my time the few people who were online understood "the rules".

So myspace friends has changed to likes/followers on instagram/facebook, sharing private pictures is easier than ever so the average joe can do it, online bullying to "normal" people. And the usual stuff, they do put a lot of emphasis on social media as a way to gauge.

Which isn't that different from 13 reasons why, which is really dumb but it "talked" to young people, so I'm guessing that also gives you an idea.

I think that's a cheap scapegoat since you would only see a similar violent crimes rate in poor countries/sections of countries were they lack education i.e. people who didn't study past Middle School. It's an entirely different social problem.

I completely agree, but is weaponizing school really the solution? Is that the learning environment you want to take your kid to?

I sure wouldn't. If I were a parent I'd also be scared of him having to go to school as things are right now in the US.

You underestimate globalization, the news and #FAKENEWS media is pretty much everywhere now, especially with the rise of social media among the older folks.

This is also why we're seeing a rise in nationalism worldwide.

It shouldn't be difficult to find statistics from countries with a similar demographic, and socioeconomic, breakdown for comparison.

Vs. a school with no weapons at all, not even a slim chance for survival if a shooter comes and runs roughshod? Absolutely.

I don’t think it’s a cheap scapegoat at all. I’m wanting to determine if Americans under 21 commit/attempt murder at significantly higher rates than there under 21 global counterparts. My wish would be that America is similar or even lower. I would hope it’s not something like quadruple the global rate.