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Vegita-San 03-30-2018 05:16 PM

zelda Games
 
Finally getting too Link Between Worlds. I can't believe that game is 5 years old already. and I still havn't even TOUCHED phantom Hourglass.

Sigh.

And Skyward Sword I've still only just beat the first temple recently.

Zelda games are so much fun, but such a DAMN pain to play. Ifind I can't play it without a walkthrough, and as such, they take a while to get around too and beat. sigh.


although, if they where all as easy to figure out as between worlds has been so far..it'd be nicer....

Andrew NDB 03-30-2018 05:25 PM

I've played and beaten Zelda 1, gotten not terribly far into Zelda 2 and gave up (but I've watched someone beat it), beaten Zelda: A Link to the Past at least twice, beaten Zelda: Link's Awakening, beat Ocarina of Time, started playing Majora's Mask but lost interest in it, dabbled a bit in the Oracle of Ages/Seasons games but lost interest, got pretty far into Zelda: Wink Waker but also lost interest in it, started playing Twilight Princess but lost interest in it, and finally started playing Skyward Sword and just kind of stopped playing it.

Haven't played any since.

CyberCubed 03-30-2018 05:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Vegita-San (Post 1754176)
Zelda games are so much fun, but such a DAMN pain to play. Ifind I can't play it without a walkthrough, and as such, they take a while to get around too and beat. sigh.

although, if they where all as easy to figure out as between worlds has been so far..it'd be nicer....

Zelda games are extremely easy to get into as Nintendo makes them accessible to kids of all ages. Assuming you're just talking about the main quest and not collecting all the Heart Pieces or every sidequest, there's no reason a fully grown adult man should be having trouble with them.

And most Zelda games at least pre-Breath of the Wild take only 20 hours to get through the main story. (again not counting if you want to collect everything). I don't see why it would "take too long to beat."

Vegita-San 03-30-2018 06:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Andrew NDB (Post 1754178)
I've played and beaten Zelda 1, gotten not terribly far into Zelda 2 and gave up (but I've watched someone beat it), beaten Zelda: A Link to the Past at least twice, beaten Zelda: Link's Awakening, beat Ocarina of Time, started playing Majora's Mask but lost interest in it, dabbled a bit in the Oracle of Ages/Seasons games but lost interest, got pretty far into Zelda: Wink Waker but also lost interest in it, started playing Twilight Princess but lost interest in it, and finally started playing Skyward Sword and just kind of stopped playing it.

Haven't played any since.

They are all pretty much the same game, but with newer skins each time. that's the one small problem with the zelda series.

I've beaten all of them except for the first gameboy DX game....Phantom Hourglass, the train one, Worlds, and Skyward.

I keep saying i'm going to stop playing these things cause they take so much time up and are basically all the same... but the gameplay is easy enough to get through them. it's just figuring out what to do that's annoying.

Utrommaniac 03-30-2018 09:53 PM

I'm actually working through Link Between Worlds right now, for the second time. Just got to Lorule Castle.

Breath of the Wild is my favorite for sure, if only because I enjoy having a lot of freedom to just do anything I want.

Vegita-San 04-02-2018 08:01 PM

I can't beleive Link Between Worlds.

Not only was I able to complete the dungeons with ZERO walk throughs (other than to check to see if I missed anything)....but I beat it in under 4 days.

Easiest Zelda game ever. No pointless side quests to detract from the action. easy to solve puzzles.

I wish MORE where like this. it was more like a zelda/mario game than a traditional zelda game. much more fun.

Utrommaniac 04-02-2018 08:12 PM

Did you do the maiamai sidequest?

Vegita-San 04-02-2018 08:27 PM

I got about 60 of them. I probably would have gotten all of them, but i didn't figure out how to get the ones off the walls until MUCH later in the game, and by then i didn't feel like going around and getting the rest.

Utrommaniac 04-02-2018 08:42 PM

I got all 100 pretty easily, save for some little frustrations.

Vegita-San 04-02-2018 08:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Utrommaniac (Post 1754404)
I got all 100 pretty easily, save for some little frustrations.

I did find a cheap golden bee though. I thought i'd get a heart container out of it.

ugh

Utrommaniac 04-02-2018 08:50 PM

It's worth it for bees that won't attack you. Makes them easier to catch for easy rupees too

sdp 04-02-2018 11:05 PM

I'm not as big of a Zelda fan as I used to be and I was a big fan.

I've become a dirty casual who hasn't finished a zelda since OOT. I wasn't excited for Skyward Sword or any of the handheld Zelda's after the GBA. I did get excited for BOTW but I've only played it for like 2 hours, I hated the magnet puzzle so much and got bored.

Vegita-San 04-04-2018 07:40 PM

So, i moved the Wii u down stairs to the bigger tv. got the gamepad working again after a long drought. i'm starting skyward sword for a THIRD time.

just at the first dungeon. lets see if ican beat the whole thing this time around. can't believe the game is 7 years old already.

Utrommaniac 04-04-2018 08:20 PM

Skyward Sword is one of the modern games I haven't played. Mostly because we never got a Wii. We stopped at Game Cube, with Windwaker and Twilight Princess (though I've made exceptions for the DS games).


I have quite a bit of fondness for Windwaker, actually.

Andrew NDB 04-04-2018 09:18 PM

I'll try the Switch Zelda when a Switch is cheaper than $300. I don't want to pay extra for portable technology I'm never going to use portably.

Vegita-San 04-07-2018 01:18 AM

Finally got up to the Earth Temple.

Farthest i've ever been in this game. if it follows standard zelda procedure, only 6 more temples after this.

Andrew NDB 04-07-2018 02:24 AM

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Originally Posted by Vegita-San (Post 1754937)
Finally got up to the Earth Temple.

Farthest i've ever been in this game. if it follows standard zelda procedure, only 6 more temples after this.

Is that the latest one? Probably is, then. Most seem to regard it as a true remake of the original NES Zelda.

Vegita-San 04-08-2018 09:35 PM

so, seems i finally got the zelda bug in. a few days later and i'm finally almost halfway through skyward sword.

sure took long enough.

I JUST exited the thunderhead and am trying to get the stupid fun fun minigame down so I can get the heart piece from the air shop.

The third dungeon was amazingly well designed, but a royal pain in the ass to do. almost two hours....ugh.

Vegita-San 04-08-2018 09:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Andrew NDB (Post 1754941)
Is that the latest one? Probably is, then. Most seem to regard it as a true remake of the original NES Zelda.

nope, skyward sword i'm on. all the way back from 2011.. god 7 years already.

sdp 04-09-2018 09:32 AM

Not a proper Zelda game but I really want to get Hyrule Warriors Definitive Edition. I skipped it on the Wii U because of the massive amount of DLC it had but now it's all in one package. To me it has the best designs for Link/Zelda/Impa/Ganon/new characters that the franchise has had in years not to mention all the fan service.

I've never owned a "warriors" game so I hope it doesn't become too repetitive.

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Originally Posted by Andrew NDB (Post 1754727)
I'll try the Switch Zelda when a Switch is cheaper than $300. I don't want to pay extra for portable technology I'm never going to use portably.

I likely won't be taking my Switch outside my house anytime soon but it's so comfortable to play the game while laying on the couch or bed. I don't know why, I can have the TV in front of me and I just feel like playing it in portable mode.

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Originally Posted by Andrew NDB (Post 1754941)
Is that the latest one? Probably is, then. Most seem to regard it as a true remake of the original NES Zelda.

Breath of the Wild is the latest.

Maybe a remake as in that it doesn't tell you where to go and you're just dropped in the world and you can do what you want but that's about it. It's Nintendo's version of an open world.

I need to give it another shot, I played it for about an hour before getting bored because there was no real path and the first dungeon I found was annoying with its magnet puzzles.

Vegita-San 04-13-2018 07:24 PM

groose is an interesting character, might be the first to get as much development beside zelda and link too...as far as link's fellow species go.


almost done with SS finally. only took 7 years. hopefully not as long to beat breath of wild.

Vegita-San 04-22-2018 11:12 AM

So, finally beat SS.


Once you get past the VERY shaky controls, it is a rewarding game. probably one of my favorites. up there with twighlight princess and the Wind Waker.



I did beat all 11 enemies in the Battle Royal. but, after honing my skills so much, i'm not ready to give the game up just yet. so playing through my first ever hero mode.

It's SOOO much nicer playing a game when nyou know what to do. no need for walkthroughs. and it goes MUCH faster. started two days ago, already almost up to the 4th temple. so close to halfway. I think I'll stop for a while after I get up to the battle royal section again though. that's enough zelda for now :).

CyberCubed 04-25-2018 03:40 PM

You almost never need a guide to beat a Zelda game. If you really have that much trouble figuring out what to do or where to go, I guess adventure games aren't your thing. 10 years olds play and beat Zelda games without guides. I can understand if you're stuck on a puzzle in a particular dungeon, but just knowing where to go is easy. You're basically told and conditioned by the game where you're supposed to head next.

Metalwolf 04-27-2018 10:36 AM

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Originally Posted by Vegita-San (Post 1754183)
They are all pretty much the same game, but with newer skins each time. that's the one small problem with the zelda series.


I think that was the issue they were trying hard to get away from with BOTW. Past ALTTP, almost everything is a reskin of Ocarina, with a bunch of games either referencing it heavily, or homaging it to death. In some of the interviews they mentioned that they needed to move onward from Ocarina, (that in a very big sense) BOTW is a whole different universe then Ocarina and pretty much is their effort to return to the series 'roots,' what really had people excited to play Zelda in the olden days.

I know before this Zelda had been slowly losing fans to the more 'grown up' medieval genres like Diablo and Skyrim, so it looks like they brought back a ton of these fans and then some. Outside of remakes, BOTW became the best selling Zelda game of all time, which I hope they continue on with not relying on ossified formulas and hand holding, because not everyone started with Ocarina as their 'first' Zelda game, and when everything starts looking like Ocarina instead of being original, then that starts sucking, fast.

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Originally Posted by sdp (Post 1755094)
Not a proper Zelda game but I really want to get Hyrule Warriors Definitive Edition. I skipped it on the Wii U because of the massive amount of DLC it had but now it's all in one package. To me it has the best designs for Link/Zelda/Impa/Ganon/new characters that the franchise has had in years not to mention all the fan service.

Easily, EASILY the best designs for me. HW Ganondorf looks like a freakin powerhouse compared to his other incarnations, and damn does he look badass while he does it. I also like that they moved past him being merely human and continued to add onto what he is, it seems like nobody wants to move past his Ocarina/Twilight Princess characterisation, even after in Skyward Sword they 'revealed' him to be the ongoing incarnation of a demon king's curse.

Vegita-San 04-27-2018 10:50 AM

The problem I had with modern zelda games was all the damn side quests.
figuring out which ones you had to do, which ones you hadn't...and most people wanted to do them all to get 100%.

that was one of the nice things about skyward sword. While some of the game could have been edited down a bit so you didn't re tread so much of the same ground for no reason at all (protect the robot)....there seemed to be far less side quests. just the gratitude crystals really..and the goddess treasures.

THAT part of the game felt like it went much faster. but then you had the goofiness of finding the flames.....and the hero song....and ugh.

it'll be a while before feel like tackling BOW. I've got to finish oddessy first.

sdp 04-27-2018 05:18 PM

My problem with Zelda and RPGs in general which as a kid and early teens were easily my fav. games is that as an adult I don't have all these hours to "explore" and immerse myself in the game. I look for fun quick experiences for the most part.

I still like immersive stuff from time to time but I choose my games more carefully and something I've never played around as much is more appealing than Zelda which I already know more or less. I tried to get into BOTW but it just didn't click. I'll try again later.

But yeah, Hyrule Warrriors might be the next Zelda game I put hours into.

Original TMNT Cartoon Fan 04-29-2018 04:03 PM

I played Link to the Past a lot when I was a child, and it was great.

Prowler 04-29-2018 09:27 PM

A Link to the Past and Ocarina of Time gave me the fondest memories. ALttP is a top 5 game of all time for me.

Ocarina was magical when I was a kid. While it still is a good game and the 3DS version is quite good it just isn't as as great as it was in 1998.

Wind Waker is very overrated, imo. It's not a bad game but it seems like people mostly like it for the graphics and atmosphere. The game goes down in quality after its middle point. Also, it's pretty easy. Not much sense of tension or danger. I mean, Ocarina wasn't exactly the hardest game ever either but I've never beten that game without dying at least a couple of times. And it definitely has tense parts/moments.

Never been able to beat Zelda 1. Maybe one day. Zelda 2? Pfft screw that hahah.

Majora's and Link's Awakening are tow games I've picked up but am yet to beat. they've been on-hold forever. Gotta fix that one day.

Vegita-San 04-29-2018 11:51 PM

for me, Majora's mask really stuck with me after playing with it only once. especially the end scene with the gods.

same goes for Skyward Sword once I got past the controls.

I don't remember much about the others, other than 1-3.

DWC 04-30-2018 06:48 PM

I have a Switch and am planning to buy BotW in a few months. I won't have time to play it this month because I have a dissertation due at the end of May, then the World Cup is on in June and July.

So maybe around August I will finally buy the game and play it. I only bought my Switch in November so it's not like I've had it over a year.

sdp 05-29-2018 09:28 PM

I thought I was just not a fan of Zelda anymore since it just didn't excite me as much as before and I never finished any games and BOTW didn't grab me. Hyrule Warriors relit my love for the Zelda games showing me fanservice here and there and even though it doesn't play like a Zelda it has enough of its tropes for me to fall in love with the universe again.

I'll continue playing this game for quite a while, it's as fun as I thought it'd be. It also makes me want to go back to BOTW and give it another chance and I will after I'm done with this.

Andrew NDB 04-05-2019 05:59 PM

Beat "Zelda: Breath of the Wild."

First of all, awesome engine, awesome open world, awesome assortment of weapons and armor and clothing. Very immersive. But I don't think it was a very good Zelda game.

Gone is any trace of the kind of Zelda music we expect (I get that they were going for atmospheric and "lonely" but they still could have reserved actual Zelda music for certain areas and dungeons or even the goddamn end credits, for pete's sake), nothing about the Triforce at all, and there's only 4 dungeons in the game (I don't count the shrines) and they're all pretty quick. Gone is the locked doors, big chests, big key, etc.. Like, imagine "A Link to the Past" but with the "Breath of the Wind" engine and open world aspect... it'd easily be a superior game and it would actually feel like Zelda.

Also, the ending... one of the lamest endings I've seen. Maybe they were really trying to emulate the sort of endings NES games had in the 80s and 90s. Either way, horrible, angering. Makes me not care to go back and explore anymore, or try the DLC... because no matter what that same crappy ending will be waiting for me.

Whatswiththeheadbands? 04-05-2019 06:48 PM

Not really much of a gamer any more, but when I do play a game, it's usually Zelda I go for.

DarkFell 04-05-2019 11:14 PM

Ocarina of Time still remains my favorite LoZ game and, I have yet to play Majora's Mask.

I have yet to buy a DS, Wii, or even a GameCube so, I really cannot say much about the other games. However, Twilight Princess remains my next choice of LoZ game that I would like to experience for myself.

neatoman 04-06-2019 05:38 AM

I have the Wii U version of BotW because I couldn't afford a Switch two years ago. From What I understand, the Wii U version actually runs better than the Switch version, is this true?

Vegita-San 04-06-2019 09:59 AM

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Originally Posted by Andrew NDB (Post 1802371)
Beat "Zelda: Breath of the Wild."

First of all, awesome engine, awesome open world, awesome assortment of weapons and armor and clothing. Very immersive. But I don't think it was a very good Zelda game.

Gone is any trace of the kind of Zelda music we expect (I get that they were going for atmospheric and "lonely" but they still could have reserved actual Zelda music for certain areas and dungeons or even the goddamn end credits, for pete's sake), nothing about the Triforce at all, and there's only 4 dungeons in the game (I don't count the shrines) and they're all pretty quick. Gone is the locked doors, big chests, big key, etc.. Like, imagine "A Link to the Past" but with the "Breath of the Wind" engine and open world aspect... it'd easily be a superior game and it would actually feel like Zelda.

Also, the ending... one of the lamest endings I've seen. Maybe they were really trying to emulate the sort of endings NES games had in the 80s and 90s. Either way, horrible, angering. Makes me not care to go back and explore anymore, or try the DLC... because no matter what that same crappy ending will be waiting for me.

Only playing 20 minutes of the game, and I really don't see why it's called the best zelda ever.

apart from the main heroes it might as well be something else at this point.

once I got passed the controls, I think Skyward Sword is my favorite zelda ever. it was easy enough to replay, felt like a nice mix of mario and exploring....and had a good enough story.

Cure 04-06-2019 09:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Vegita-San (Post 1802432)
Only playing 20 minutes of the game, and I really don't see why it's called the best zelda ever.

Maybe play for more than twenty minutes, you ****ing dweeb.

I'm not saying that'll change your opinion, but Jesus, man. Inform yourself before saying things.

Voltron 04-07-2019 08:12 AM

I refuse to play Zelda, because it's too female-centric. Why do I have to save a chick all the time? And does she have to be so cool and manly in that Sheik disguise? That's a man's role, thank you very much! And I'll thank you not to vag up my dude time.

I mean, it's gotten so bad that Link puts his sword in a clearly metaphorical sheath when not in use.

Sad.

Vegita-San 04-07-2019 10:27 AM

what's sad is your derangement syndrome is clearly getting worse.

CyberCubed 04-07-2019 11:58 AM

It's sad you couldn't tell he was being sarcastic.


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