Would you like to see Carter back one day?
 

Carter, from the Red Sky seasons of the FW cartoon. He wasn't very popular, but I didn't mind him tbh. he had potential. The writers just didn't capitalise on it. It was a good concept but not so well executed. He seemed loosely based on Keno from SotO.

I'm surprised Carter hasn't been brought back in any of the newest versions yet. Dregg was in the Nick cartoon afaik, and so was Pete the Pigeon. How long do you think it will take until they bring Carter back?

I'm not a fan of human characters outnumbering aliens and mutants in TMNT, but April, Casey, Carter, Baxter, Hamato Yoshi, Oroku Saki, Hun, Karai; would be a solid number for humans in a TMNT version.

Considering Carter rode a motorcycle in the FW series, i could see him being Casey Jones' friend in a future TMNT incarnation one day. A vigilante like him or even a friendly rival.

Thoughts?

Not especially, but if a future iteration insisted on there being a new human companion or something, I'd certainly rather them use somebody like Carter or Keno instead. They're both pretty cool guys who have potential for re-use, I never took any issue with 'em.

No, I never saw him to have any potential. Shoehorned in and he never worked in the episode stretch he was a part of the team. However, this brings up a debate that the Ninja Turtles have a serious lack of human allies that are liked if not effective. April of course does not help in the battle field, but finds use as a reporter( gets them information) or as a tech support. Casey Jones is a reoccurring asset in the battlefield and well-liked among the overall fan base. Aside form them are there any other human characters that are liked by fans and effective in the fight against Shredder and other villains? I never liked Zack or Carter. Not interested in Angel in the 2003 cartoon,but she was reworked and aged up and totally works as Nobody. So I guess there can be hope for humans I would rather write off into the dust bin of history like the annoyance of Zack and Carter.

Other human friends, there is Irma as a supporting character in the '87 cartoon,but just there to give April someone to talk to. Woody was originally a way to explain how IDW Turtles got food and tied in the pizza obsession gimmick. Neither he or Irma are help in fights. Harold Lillja serves as tech support like April has in some iterations. I do like Keno though and like most human allies is a one-shot. He can be dusted off and reworked and help the turtles in a fight. We do need more human characters to help the Turtles fight villains with the serious lack of them in over thirty years,but we need to start mostly from scratch with the nearly all of the few listed above not working or not one who would fight alongside them.

If you're going to bring back a hated character, bring back Venus de Milo.

But if you must have a young human sidekick, Carter's okay. Never, never, NEVER bring in that so-called "fifth turtle" kid.

He Who Shall Not Be Named.

Definitely, he's cool and could be made into a cool character if given the chance. I'm not saying make him a main character but have him be this bad ass recurring one instead. Same with Keno, I"d rather them bring them back than have a brand new kid that does a similar role in the plot.

You mean Zack?

I've never written a fanfic but I did think about if I did it'd be a "I'm the fifth turtle" storyline with Venus, Zack, Slash & Metalhead fighting to see who is the fifth turtle to save the main TMNT who are captured only for them to form their own "TMNT" group between them. And then Tokka joins in on that group as THAT group's fifth turtle.

Sounds awful, I know, that's why I'd never write it. :lol:

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If you MUST say his name, yes, obviously, Zach. :tlol:

Cool idea for a story, though!

Yeah, sure bring everybody back eventually.

I mean... Pigeon Pete, of all characters, got two new interpretations in comics and television. So now anything's possible.

I think it would be cool if instead of making a new version of Carter, the actual Carter from the 87 toon is brought back in some other version as a time traveller who accidentally ended up in another dimension. (since he ultimately wanted to time travel into the future in his last appearance).

Not as a mutant. If the turtles just meet a human who happens to look and appear like Carter and even has that name, I wouldn't care.

Not a fan of him, but any character can be good in the hands of a better writer.

Why not? As long as he is not one-dimensional Marty Sue, that is.

Didn't his mutated form make a cameo in the 2012 show or am I imagining things?

Once the Purple Dragons have been defeated, Casey Jones and Carter could fight criminal motorcycle gangs together.

Not particularly... As others have said, if they were looking to bring back an old character, I suppose there are worse, but he kind of annoyed me so if he must return then I hope something better would be done.

I dunno, maybe make him something like their 30-year-old neighbor who lives right next to one of the TMNT's main entrance/exit points and has come to know them. He could play some kind of role in their lives, important but subtle, without having to become obnoxiously involved.

I'd still love to see the TMNT gain some casual friends who remain outside the rest of the goings-on in their lives.


Yeah... there was something that resembled him, seen for just a moment. I think it was a character from one of the series the TMNT were watching?

I think you confuse him with Nickelodeon's Mutagen Man.

Clearly that cameo was very memorable. lol

Thinking on it more now and looking online... I can't find a pic of it, but I think it's from the Chris Brandford cartoon where they're climbing those stairs and then the kid sidekick Lil' Rineo surprises him by being some villain in disguise. The villain, according to the wiki page, being the "yellow monster." Presumably the one that looked like Carter.


edit: Ah! Just found a pic.

https://vignette.wikia.nocookie.net/...path-prefix=de

From http://de.tmnt.wikia.com/wiki/Requiem (If you read German.)



I REALLY don't want his mutation back.

Also... Great, maybe it's just a coincidence, but 'Rise' Leo pretty much took those red marks from Carter.

There are three main-options for characters who follow the turtles.

1.) Zach

2.) Carter

3.) Timothy

(or someone else, new character, of course)

Which proves we don't need a character to follow the Turtles. They all suck!

Awww I liked Zach. :D

Me too, I liked how he saved the turtles when they least expected it.

I want both back.

To this day I have no idea what Carter's race was supposed to be. I think I made a thread about it here too a few years ago and nobody could figure it out either. If he was black then he was the first major black friend of the Turtles in the franchise history (since previous black characters like Baxter or Bebop are villains), but if he wasn't I suppose he was a mixed spanish race or something.

It's been 20+ years since 1995 and I still can't figure it out to this day. It's quite the conundrum.

You're trolling man. He is 100% black.

1. Dark skin
2. Dreads
3. Full lips
4. Black voice actor

How is this ambigious?

In the words of a great sage in the past:

http://forums.thetechnodrome.com/sho...4&postcount=10

It does look like Carter's mutant form, indeed!

I kinda liked carter
I'd be cool if they brought him back

He said black or Spanish-mixed, and honestly, I could see that too. He didn't sound overly-black to me, and he seemed a bit lighter black in skin tone. So who really knows, but probably he was semi black. Still, it's easy to see the confusion.

I don't think it matters, regardless. It wasn't ever brought up in the show and we don't even know what his last name was.

That being said, I've always seen him as black.

Carter is ambiguously brown which was fairly popular in the 90s. That means the character may have characteristics of various "brown" cultures so you can't pinpoint him as one and it can represent all. I guess that's what they were aiming for. Randy from Godzilla The Series is another good example, he has dreads, looks black but has a hispanic last name and speaks bad spanish every other word and yet he acts more black than anything. You also have characters like T.Hawk from SF who is Mexican yet his look is completely native american. Why else would Carter also have his mutated form look native americanish?

Anywho, Carter has tons of potential, he was kinda boring in the red sky seasons but I'd love to see him come back with proper writing.

I found an article calming he's "causican".

http://www.retrojunk.com/article/sho...ing-of-the-end

You do know Mexicans can be black or Native American right

I think I know better than most here what a Mexican can look like. My point is Cubed is not being racist, these shows used to love putting ambiguously brown characters so it could represent more at the expense of the character even if you can find someone in that exact situation, it didn't seem like that's what they were going for. Eliza Maza is another example, weren't her parents black and native american as the show went on? Sure it can happen but they just kinda mixed things instead of giving us a definitive answer.

Maza was a case of a specific interracial background though. It was even gone into IN DETAIL in several episodes, how her mother was from Africa and her father was Native American. Her entire family ran the spectrum between the two, with brother who looked more black, and a sister who appeared more NA. Elisa was the "middle ground" sibling.

Carter could even be combined with Mr. Braunze this way. Carter Braunze?

Bring back this guy!! Who was he anyway??

https://youtu.be/gEfsGImhVgQ?t=2m9s

Which guy? That one dude that looked like an alternate version of Walt, Zack's older brother in the cold lair with Michelangelo? Or the joint handing kid towards the end of the video?

As for Carter, I dunno about him. I mean, he was just there. Just another human for the Turtles & Splinter to interact with, but not much 'substance' was added to his character. If his personality was developed some more, then yes, I would like to see Carter again.

Otherwise, there wasn't much to know about Carter other than he trained with Splinter, doesn't like Lord Dregg, fought in a few fights before he went with Landor and Merrick for a cure, and he can morph into a Goro look-alike character minus two extra arms. :ohwell:

Feel free to let me know if I missed anything else.

I wish the Turtle Tips were on DVD :(

No.

He wasn't very popular, I think...because he was forced on david wise by a CBS exec...and it always felt to me like wise didn't know what to do with him, as they always had april be the human pin point.

I also feel like it became more the Carter show...having his name mentioned every 4 minutes to remind people he was the new character.

His motivations also where ALL OVER THE MAP. 'I'm part of the team!'...goes awol next two episodes. 'I wanna be a ninja!' focuses more on inventions. 'I love being a mutant!' this mutation is a curse....he was more annoying than zach the fifth turtle.

If they could work up a proper personality for him, and give him a job other than being the combined personality of all the turtles and splinter..maybe. but that's a big maybe.

Yeah I remember David Wise saying in an interview Carter was a CBS exec creation, not his.