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drag0nfeathers 06-03-2018 11:28 AM

How To Train Your Dragon 3... and the "Hetero Agenda"
 
*TRIGGER WARNING!*

I was so excited for this... but then...

https://i.redd.it/6t54pgahbi111.jpg

I'm gonna tread a hot button issue and say that I'm all for gay pride, gender equality, etc etc but this is getting out of control.

I feel stupid for even making this argument since it is a children's movie about pretend creatures, but the whole point was that Toothless was the last of his kind so... was it not predictable they would eventually introduce a female dragon so they could potentially save the species?

Also, there has been a twitter war also over the race issue. "Oh, a black male dragon and white female dragon. How typical?" Dude? I thought everyone would be happy about one being black and one being white... doesn't that promote interracial couples? Instead everyone is ******** on the idea and pissed off that she's not also black.

That's it. Like... I'm done. You can't make anyone happy ever... so just sit down and shut up and just enjoy the damn movie. It's Dragons for Christ sake!

It's like Rise all over again lol. Everyone is already judging it and the trailer hasn't even aired yet. Smh.

Please tell me I'm not alone on this?

TurtleTitan97 06-03-2018 11:32 AM

People will truly complain about anything these days, huh?

Candy Kappa 06-03-2018 11:38 AM

Relax. It's okay to criticize lazy, boring and outright bad creature design.

Vegita-San 06-03-2018 01:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Candy Kappa (Post 1762820)
Relax. It's okay to criticize lazy, boring and outright bad creature design.

what, do all dragons look alike to you?

sorry, couldn't resist :)...

but yeah. this is why SJW's will NEVER win. they are NEVER satisfied. capitulate to them on one issue, and ruin something, they will bring up ten more things to complain about. and you will loose your fan base forever more.

learn your lesson from star wars. from ghostbusters. from star trek. Don't SJW-ize. EVER.

Allio 06-03-2018 02:16 PM

B-But my Toothlessxhiccup FanFiction

Powder 06-03-2018 06:24 PM

There's no reason for you not to still be excited about it, if you take no issue with the direction of the film. Don't let a vocal minority's twisted knickers sour your enjoyment of something.

FredWolfLeonardo 06-03-2018 06:30 PM

"Hetero Agenda"

Lol, Okay.

Autbot_Benz 06-03-2018 06:35 PM

That face you make when a triggered post isn't started by papenbrook

https://i.imgur.com/lqWuOPQ.gif

Candy Kappa 06-03-2018 06:50 PM

To bad it's just a trolling thread about taking umbrage against some that dislike lazy and out-of-character-for-the-movies creature designs, cause beyond the "Miss Bunny from Bambi" dragon I'm interested in more HttyD

Redeemer 06-03-2018 07:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Autbot_Benz (Post 1762888)
That face you make when a triggered post isn't started by papenbrook

https://i.imgur.com/lqWuOPQ.gif

Its Papenbrook's second account :lol: jk

Im a little disappointed, bc I liked the idea of him being the last of his kind. But I really love the first 2 movies so I will see this one regardless. :P

NinjaPug 06-03-2018 07:47 PM

Who cares what a random person you don't know says about a film they haven't seen any footage of on social media?

Vegita-San 06-03-2018 08:10 PM

whats the problem with the design?

all the dragons pretty much look alike with the various species.

They just made this one look white, and for the purposes of the photo 'in cute dog pose mode'. just like toothless is usually shown when he's not fighting.

what's the problem?

AT-Man 06-04-2018 05:47 AM

They could have gone with something neat, like the girl dragon being bigger or more dangerous looking. Cute dragons are an abomination.

drgon78 06-04-2018 06:04 AM

Last I remember she is supposed to be a light furry and a water type dragon and not a white night furry.

You know you can just ignore this crap, the internet is not the real world, just a place for idiots to be idiots and a fun place for the rest of us.

Vegita-San 06-04-2018 06:41 AM

ahh yes, the old, girl dragons have to be bad ass excuse ;o)

Candy Kappa 06-04-2018 08:07 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Vegita-San (Post 1762929)
ahh yes, the old, girl dragons have to be bad ass excuse ;o)

because a soft feminine version of the male dragon is better? She only lacks the long eye lashes to complete the stereotypical look with her having a smaller snout, dainty head frill-antennae, been waxed of her scales and caked in glitter. There's no other extremes in sexual dimorphism among the other dragon species, like Astrid's Stormfly who is a female dragon looks basically the same as a male Deadly Nadder.

Considering that the HttyD designers have created some great designs in previous installments, this is just so risk-less, predicable, downright lazy and functionally incorrect of what we know of Night Furies.

Vegita-San 06-04-2018 08:18 AM

all we know of night furries is toothless.

who knows what the others look like?

and that giant dragon from part 2 had different colors to them. I think one was male and one was female iirc.

I don't see the big deal.

maybe when she goes into battle mode her eyes turn red and she grows spikes or something.

plastroncafe 06-04-2018 08:56 AM

Aww look, she's an Eve to his Wall-E.
Because of course she is.

The design doesn't look at that inspired to me, that said...the creators have done a really good job with character design in the past, so I'm willing to lend them the benefit of the doubt with this.

I mean, she doesn't have hair, eyelashes, or lipstick...so that's a bonus.

That's assuming that Toothless isn't the female.

AT-Man 06-04-2018 09:40 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by plastroncafe (Post 1762932)
That's assuming that Toothless isn't the female.

Now that would be something!




I suddenly find calling Furies "furries" funny.

Redeemer 06-04-2018 10:50 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by plastroncafe (Post 1762932)

That's assuming that Toothless isn't the female.

I think thats a safe assumption considering they refer to him as "he" and "boy"
:lol:

Andrew NDB 06-04-2018 11:07 AM

It's better just to not humor or give this kind of crazy talk a platform. And I suspect the original Facebook post might be just someone trying to rabble-rouse people.

plastroncafe 06-04-2018 11:11 AM

Yes, and that precedent was set in the first movie, where the whole point was how little humans knew about dragons.

Most people don't know the sex of their reptiles until one of them lays eggs, or in the case of snakes a probe is employed.

Toothless is dark/drab in color, and we know they hunt.
Most female animals are dark/drab in color when compared to their male counter parts, and in some species the females are the ones that do the hunting.

Conversely, in the new poster the other Night Fury is white. Since in nature males are more likely than females to be flashy in appearance, I'd say that's as good a reason as any that the new dragon could be male.

Plus, if we look at Yin and Yang, white is the masculine color while black is the feminine.

Candy Kappa 06-04-2018 11:33 AM

The previous owners of my first pet turtle thought he was female and they had him for over 10 years before they sold him. They even tried to introduce him to another male turtle in hopes of getting "cute baby turtles to keep", strangely they tried to kill each other...

plastroncafe 06-04-2018 11:57 AM

I rescued the turtle I've had the longest from a local no-kill shelter.
The had her listed as a Male Slider named Angelo.
She's a female Reeves named Lois now.

Candy Kappa 06-04-2018 01:09 PM

thats a great name for her :D

Reeves are so distinct from sliders, like I'd get confusing a cooter or a painted for a slider. But someone did the same thing on a reptile group on Facebook

plastroncafe 06-04-2018 01:29 PM

:D
I call her name My Ultimate Geek Test.
And how I knew I had found the right vet for her was that when I walked in one of his techs commented absently about how pretty of a Reeves she was.

Mayhem 06-04-2018 01:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Redeemer (Post 1762939)
I think thats a safe assumption considering they refer to him as "he" and "boy" :lol:

Many people have got the wrong sex of their pet over the years.

"How To Sex Your Dragon", anyone? :lol:

Utrommaniac 06-04-2018 01:34 PM

My assumption is that Valka would have confirmed or denied it. If she could tell Toothless' age right away, I'm sure she can do other things.

The other thing is that we already had that plot twist with Meatlug in one of the shorts. Not that it couldn't be done twice, though.

plastroncafe 06-04-2018 01:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mayhem (Post 1762967)
Many people have got the wrong sex of their pet over the years.

"How To Sex Your Dragon", anyone? :lol:

If you're under 18 DO NOT Google that...

sdp 06-04-2018 02:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Andrew NDB (Post 1762940)
It's better just to not humor or give this kind of crazy talk a platform. And I suspect the original Facebook post might be just someone trying to rabble-rouse people.

This, it doesn't belong here. There's always going to be someone complaining about something if you go to any niche. Outrage culture is in both sides, those who are outraged of everything and those who are outraged of everything the people who are outraged about everything. :lol:

Quote:

Originally Posted by plastroncafe (Post 1762949)
I rescued the turtle I've had the longest from a local no-kill shelter.
The had her listed as a Male Slider named Angelo.
She's a female Reeves named Lois now.

Figures you would have a transturtle :lol:

Vegita-San 06-04-2018 02:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sdp (Post 1762976)
Figures you would have a transturtle :lol:

whether it wants to be or not. ;o)

"But, I've got....!" "Not for long!"

ok, couldn't resist!

plastroncafe 06-04-2018 02:37 PM

Awww you even used the third person pronoun!
We'll make SJ[Designation] of you yet!

Candy Kappa 06-04-2018 03:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by plastroncafe (Post 1762966)
:D
I call her name My Ultimate Geek Test.

I might steal that name idea if I ever go law-abiding turtle owner since reeves are the only turtle that's legal, but the reference might go unnoticed since we don't call them reeves' turtle but Chinese three-keeled turtle

Redeemer 06-04-2018 04:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by plastroncafe (Post 1762941)
Yes, and that precedent was set in the first movie, where the whole point was how little humans knew about dragons.

Most people don't know the sex of their reptiles until one of them lays eggs, or in the case of snakes a probe is employed.

Toothless is dark/drab in color, and we know they hunt.
Most female animals are dark/drab in color when compared to their male counter parts, and in some species the females are the ones that do the hunting.

Conversely, in the new poster the other Night Fury is white. Since in nature males are more likely than females to be flashy in appearance, I'd say that's as good a reason as any that the new dragon could be male.

Plus, if we look at Yin and Yang, white is the masculine color while black is the feminine.

Yeah but hiccups mom who is an expert referred to toothless as "he" as well.

drgon78 06-04-2018 08:43 PM

I can't wait to see this movie even if there are character deaths and the surviving dragons have to be sent to this new world and never seen again...at least in Hiccup's lifetime.

TigerClaw 06-07-2018 11:09 AM

Here's the Trailer


plastroncafe 06-07-2018 11:18 AM

...oh poor Toothless.
Dragons are like Pandas!

AHAHAHAHAHAHA

Vegita-San 06-07-2018 11:40 AM

Looks a little too overly detailed...

but over all, interested in where it's going.

shame it's going to be the last one.

drgon78 06-07-2018 01:18 PM

Well the last one with these characters anyway.

I am sure they will leave it open at the end with the dragons going away and then a human in a later time period(more then likely now) finding them or at least one of the dragons.

TigerClaw 06-07-2018 01:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by drgon78 (Post 1763628)
Well the last one with these characters anyway.

I am sure they will leave it open at the end with the dragons going away and then a human in a later time period(more then likely now) finding them or at least one of the dragons.

They can continue on with the animated series though. It got renewed for a sixth and final season.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/DreamWorks_Dragons


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