Kathleen Kennedy leaving Lucasfilm... maybe in September
 

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https://movieweb.com/kathleen-kenned...ilm-star-wars/

This isn't a joke? The fans flustrated by behind-the-scenes turmoil with multiple firings and plots we were waiting anxious for only to get the finger actually got her removed? Well, fans do have a voice after all.


So...how about Luke teleporting like Hamill believes he did?

If this isn't a joke, It's a START.

There are TONS of people at lucasfilm that are still loyal to her AND believe in her agenda. they need to go too!

if you hire dave filoni to right the ship, like they should, he needs his staff in there to fix a VERY large whole.

It's sad. I had ZERO opinion of her when she was first announced. i did not know about her, OR her history..but after revisionist lucas, I was hopeful someone with a plan was coming in. oh, how FAST I wished lucas was back.

I don't like how the "excerpt" ascribes to the Kennedy "redeemed Star Wars from the awful prequels with a ANH remake" narrative, which is a quantifiably FAKE narrative.

I definitely agree that Kathleen Kennedy has been more "Warner Brothers" than "Kevin Feige."

But that's not really a good comparison. She basically has been steering the Star Wars ship to follow in the rebooted Star Trek path... reboot, tell the same stories, young pretty actors, safe predictable stories matched with incredibly bizarre creative choices.

J.J. Abrams and Rian Johnson seem to be sci-fi relaunch poison... except financially, which is unfortunate.

yeah, I was reading that too.

news flash movie web. She IS at fault. her and her bosses at disney. it's all her direction.

Getting rid of her is a start, but there's lots of others that need to follow with her.

I need to watch the prequels for myself and determine just how truly awful they are.

But as a consumer who believes in artistic integrity, I'll take a bad original story over a soulless retelling any day.

Now if you'll excuse me, I need to get back to needling my J.J. Abrams voodoo doll...

without going over again, IMHO the short list.

bad acting. bad dialogue. Jar Jar (thankfully reduced later) Hayden Christensen (see first two).

If you had fixed those few issues, the Prequels would have been FAR more enjoyable, as evidenced by Clone Wars.

Fire her and replace her with Dave Feloni

The "abyss" of the prequel trilogy may not have earned the adoration of long-time fans and critics, but it certainly made the franchise lots of money and earned it a new audience who grew up with the merchandise, video games, and media spin-offs.

The original report said Kasdan and Kinberg are in the story group so I'm assuming the rest of the report is BS too.

yep.

there was enough new, and enough GOOD new, to earn it a nice nostalgia spot in the fans and franchise. I have a feeling the same will be true with Star wars rebels.


But, R1? People may like it, but what new did it introduce? TFA? TLJ? Solo? nothing really memorable about ANY of these movies. from pacing, to editing to story.

They are just made to make a quick billion and quickly forgotten about.

Yeah... I mean, it's got Ewan Macgregor, Liam Neesons, Samuel Motherfvcking Jackson, Natalie Portman... some really good stars in there.

But what do I know, I haven't seen 'em. I'm a filthy casual. :trazz:

:D
here, let me insult your family lineage...cause that's apparently what you do around here when someone says something that goes against the grain.

then watch as I get support for saying said nasty thing and nothing gets done about it ;o)

The prequels would have benefited from not being helmed by Lucas himself.
The guy's an idea man, not a showrunner.

Not gonna care until it's official, but I can see Disney being mad that Ep.8 didn't do as well with merchandise and now Solo underperforming which is a bigger deal.

A more interesting topic than bashing Kathleen since we've done that enough in TLJ thread :lol: Is, what can Disney do to turn the ship in the right direction. I'm not even sure how they'd be able to get ME back on board 100% like I was before Ep.7, to me the damage is already done, similar to the DCEU. I'd definitely start by taking a break after Ep.9, hope JJ can salvage the trilogy somehow and then start with a new movie set in a totally different time and place.

They really should've just fixed his ideas for the ST from the layout they gave him. I mean most of the 'new' I love in TFA, it was the 'old' that I hated. I wanted Rey to be the main Jedi, I wanted to discover what had happened and how the world had changed, not go back to the OT. I wanted Fynn to also be a Jedi, no reason to only have 1 Jedi anymore.

The prequels have tons of bad things in it, but nothing came close to ruining Star Wars for me, Ep.3 tried hard but not enough. I could put up with the bad decisions, it's actually the Sequel Trilogy that's made me like the PT less, I mean if I don't want to put up with the ST crap why should I with the PT even if not as damaging?

A bunch of characters no one can remember the names of that died by the time it was over.

Yeah, this all comes down to a matter of taste, because I really REALLY liked TFA, and while I found TLJ to have pacing issues, I really did enjoy it's deconstruction of the universe as we knew it.

I'm clearly outside of the entry window for the Prequels, which I found uninteresting, and all flash with no bang.

I am a filthy casual who has seen and own all the movies, but nothing else ever seen or read aside from Darth Plageuis. Even a filthy casual can appreciate it!

The problem with the prequel trilogy is the same with the sequel trilogy, its not the greatness and originality of the original trilogy. Aside from Anakin's impatience in Mace defeating Palpitine being the entire driving force of the original trilogy and making a really dumb character in a non cyborg Anakin, Revenge of the Sith is great.

TLJ had plenty of new stuff especially related to the Force and the capabilities of Force users. A lot of people just didn't like them.

TLJ finally made The Force interesting.

the only thing 'new' with the force that it did was do away with the need of training. EVERYONE is suddenly an expert from the start. shm.

hardly bold... just pandering to this generation that thinks you get trophies for everything.

The Prequels gave us a literal force baby.

Empire Strikes Back already did that

That was in TFA.

There were new aspects of the Force in TLJ.

Isn't the official word was that Anakin was a ritual summoning?

I can't speak to that, but if you've got a link I'd sure love to read about it.
I only remember Anikin's mother saying the boy had no father, with the heavy implication he was not consummated in the usual way.

So everyone knowing how to control the force with as much ease as there is lightning-bending in Legend of Korra doesn't bother me nearly as much.

It was basically an experiment by darth plageus to live forever. apparently instead of extending life, he created it instead.

it's more or less dialogue during part 3 with the oprea scene.

I don't see why this matters, Episode 9 wraps up the new trilogy and is already well underway and that does it for the sequel movies. We're just going to get spinoffs from now on anyway.

I hope you guys enjoy the "Boba Fett" and "Yoda" movies coming up, besides the Obi-wan movie.

Anakin was created by Plagueis to bring balance to the Force. He was and he did. It's not spelled out and it would be stupid if it was, but there it is.

I don't remember that. I remember the 'he'd even influenced the midichlorians to create life' line. or something to that effect. and I always assumed it was plagues who influenced the force to randomly create anakin.

Right. But that was the reasoning. They weren't just making cabbage patch kids to make cabbage patch kids.

was it mentioned elsewhere in extended cannon?

I always assumed it was just a deliberate experiment to get the life extending ability perfected.

Wookiepedia lists only this:

http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Anakin_Skywalker

http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Midi-chlorian

I always assumed it was Sidious himself that created Anakin with the force via midi-chlorians. Didn't he say that Plagueis' apprentice learned the technique and then later killed his master. I always assumed that the Emperor was speaking of himself when he mentioned the apprentice.

He later told Anakin, "It was a power only one has mastered (Plagueis)... but together, I know we can learn!" But then Padme dies and it's moot, so Anakin presumably stops asking about it.

They are...mixed bag.
At least they are very different from OT in terms of the stories, so there's that.

The main problem of prequels, that they have a very good story under all that. There are a lot of world building, political intrigues and character dramas...and all of this buried under bad stilled acting from some of the main characters, bad dialogues in general and too many (sometimes mediocre) special effects.

Like Matrix Reloaded and Revolutions there are good ideas somewhere, but you need to try and force yourself to not let all the bad stuff to distract you from discerning good things about those movies.

Good actors in the hands of a bad director are worthless.

Arguably the only characters who were good characters in the prequels are SLJ's Mace Windu, Palpatine, Obi Wan and Liam Neeson's Quai Gon.

Actually, I thought it was always meant that 'only one' had learned the technique to save someone from death and create life. It probably never mattered much to sidious himself, who may have thought the technique flawed and then killed his master.

hence why he says 'together, we can unlock the secret'. I think that it was then that he realized the technique probably worked, had created anakin the one time it was used, and it was worth pursuing with anakin to unlock the secret.

He should have done that with "Looper 2," or "Bricks" or something... not Star Wars, namely the second of three movies in a sequel trilogy that already wasted its running time on setups and remakes in the first one.