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Andrew NDB 06-29-2018 01:25 PM

How do you feel about polygamy?
 
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Like, where do you come down on it? If your daughter wanted to openly date two dudes at once, would you be cool with it? And to what extent, like when marriage comes into the equation? Should people be legally allowed to marry more than one person? If yes, should there be a limit?

FredWolfLeonardo 06-29-2018 01:41 PM

Traditional Biblical Polygny is awesome and every man's biggest fantasy (don't lie, you want it) but everything else thats polygamous is immmmmmooooral.

Andrew NDB 06-29-2018 01:43 PM

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Originally Posted by FredWolfLeonardo (Post 1767361)
Polygny is awesome but not Polyandry is immoral.

What is Polyandry?

Prowler 06-29-2018 01:44 PM

I wouldn't partake in it. Don't have a son/daughter, but I'm gonna guess I'd not like the idea.

FredWolfLeonardo 06-29-2018 01:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Andrew NDB (Post 1767362)
What is Polyandry?

Polygny: man with multiple wives.

Polyandry: Woman with muliple husbands.

Don't know what it would be called for same sex.

Andrew NDB 06-29-2018 01:50 PM

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Originally Posted by FredWolfLeonardo (Post 1767366)
Polygny: man with multiple wives.

Polyandry: Woman with muliple husbands.

Don't know what it would be called for same sex.

So you're for it if it's a dude with multiple wives but against it if it's a lady with multiple husbands?

CylonsKlingonsDaleksOhMy 06-29-2018 01:53 PM

Andrew, I gotta ask... what made you think of this poll question? :tlol: :tlol: :tlol:

Andrew NDB 06-29-2018 02:28 PM

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Originally Posted by CylonsKlingonsDaleksOhMy (Post 1767370)
Andrew, I gotta ask... what made you think of this poll question? :tlol: :tlol: :tlol:

Stay on topic, you cad! ;)

TurtleWA 06-29-2018 02:32 PM

Whatever makes people happy. As long as it doesn’t hurt me I fine with it.

My immediate gut reaction would be against anything that might cause my children ridicule. I’d get over it quickly and support them. If it’s what they want.

It would not be easy knowing many would judge them.

FredWolfLeonardo 06-29-2018 02:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Andrew NDB (Post 1767367)
So you're for it if it's a dude with multiple wives but against it if it's a lady with multiple husbands?

Yup. A key that can work on many locks is great but a lock that can be opened by multiple keys, well you know...

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Originally Posted by CylonsKlingonsDaleksOhMy (Post 1767370)
Andrew, I gotta ask... what made you think of this poll question? :tlol: :tlol: :tlol:

Quote:

Originally Posted by FredWolfLeonardo (Post 1767361)
every man's biggest fantasy (don't lie, you want it).


Andrew NDB 06-29-2018 02:42 PM

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Originally Posted by FredWolfLeonardo (Post 1767361)
Traditional Biblical Polygny is awesome and every man's biggest fantasy (don't lie, you want it)

I don't, really. It's one of those things that sounds way better in fantasy than reality.

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Originally Posted by FredWolfLeonardo (Post 1767373)
Yup. A key that can work on many locks is great but a lock that can be opened by multiple keys, well you know...

Interesting thought process.

TurtleWA 06-29-2018 02:48 PM

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Originally Posted by FredWolfLeonardo (Post 1767373)
A key that can work on many locks is great


So like a skeleton key?

1. “a key designed to fit many locks by having the interior of the bit hollowed”
2. “a key with nearly the whole substance of the bit filed away so that it may open various locks
“

plastroncafe 06-29-2018 03:06 PM

I know a bunch of folks in the scene, and they're all pretty happy about it.
It did make that whole "time of the cuck" thing really entertaining for me though, because all the actual cuckolds I know aren't complaining.

My issue with institutional polygyny is that it usually comes hand-in-hand with slut shaming/objectification for women, and marginalization/banishment for the men.
See also the Lost Boys of Mormon Fundamentalism.

But if there's folks out there who want to live that way, and do so as consenting adults? I say let'em.

On a biological note, there's some interesting data regarding sperm competition which indicates that monogamous, or polygynous, relationship structures aren't exactly the default for our species.

IndigoErth 06-29-2018 03:10 PM

A human "skeleton key" doesn't sound like much of a key then, and I'm not too keen on sharing.

I'm not in support of it and its old roots are in women being regarded as property. But I'm not going to judge the life choices of strangers.

Family or friend I might question it, and with family I might not approve, but I wouldn't try to stop them from making their own choices.






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Originally Posted by FredWolfLeonardo (Post 1767373)
Yup. A key that can work on many locks is great but a lock that can be opened by multiple keys, well you know...

Wtf.

triplexxx 06-29-2018 04:53 PM

Should be in "Everything Else" not "Current Events"

To answer it: To each, their own. As long as it doesn't result in STDs or unwanted pregnancy.

CyberCubed 06-29-2018 05:43 PM

People actually do this and it's a lot more common than you think, the difference is they don't get married so you don't hear about it. There's tons of people, particularly lesbians, in threeway relationships at the same time.

Honestly, who cares? Obviously a man with two or more girls is going to raise a bit more eyebrows if he tried to marry them, but other than that threeway relationships aren't THAT bizarre. They usually end quickly because one person tends to get jealous of the other or just grows out of it and wants someone to themselves, etc.

I feel like this is an early 90's Jerry Springer question. However in the modern year of 2018, this just gets a "shrug" from me.

Sumac 06-29-2018 06:39 PM

If people can handle it, why not?

On the other hand, in most cases sooner or later desire to be "the one and only" kicks in and then you will get a **** ton of trouble.

wpugh2424 06-29-2018 06:48 PM

I agree with TURTLEWA
I don't care what you do as long as you are not causing trouble for someone else and you contribute to society. Could care less

Leo656 06-29-2018 07:18 PM

Like most types of relationships, it sounds better on paper than it would ever work in practice.

Humans are jealous and possessive by nature. Everything I've read on the subject says that these kinds of relationships can start off "Just Fine", but after a while one person or the other is always going to get pissed that they're not receiving 100% of the other person's attention.

Once we start seeing a string of numerous people who can say, "I've been in a happily-polygamous relationship for 50 years, and we're all wonderfully happy," I may change my feelings. But for now, calling it based solely on what I've seen, I'm gonna say it doesn't work long-term. I may be wrong, but I don't think so.

I think it says a lot about a person who would go looking for that kind of relationship, as well. Nothing good.

FredWolfLeonardo 06-29-2018 08:21 PM

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Originally Posted by CyberCubed (Post 1767405)
People actually do this and it's a lot more common than you think, the difference is they don't get married so you don't hear about it. There's tons of people, particularly lesbians, in threeway relationships at the same time.

The most common form of polygamy is actually one man being married to multiple women, and is most common in Africa and the Middle East.

TigerClaw 06-29-2018 08:55 PM

There are people out there who are not comfortable having a monogamous relationship. so they end up having open relationship which allows them to date other people. But still stay married.

PApagreg 06-29-2018 10:57 PM

As long as its between consenting adults and there is no hint of abuse then Im okay with it

Redeemer 06-29-2018 11:53 PM

This kind of thing I really can never understand. From a psychology stand point I understand why a man would do it if he is just seeking as many partners as possible.(To increase his chance of passing on his DNA) But not a woman.

Leo656 06-30-2018 12:14 AM

Anecdotally, the only people I've personally known who have attempted to initiate and maintain such an arrangement were women. Worked out great for them, short-term; twice as many guys around to work and pay bills and whatnot.

From the outside looking in, it appeared to be a transparent attempt at manipulating various men into supporting the woman's lifestyle. I'm assuming the men eventually began to suspect the same thing, because in the end nobody was speaking to anyone else. I've only seen it attempted a few times, but it always ended the same way. One guy moved halfway across the country to get away from the girl who f*cked him over so badly. Just up and fled in the middle of the night once he realized she'd been playing him for a chump. Bad scene.

On the surface, I would want to agree that it's a situation that favors the male - "More pu$$y! Whooooooo!" - but in my personal experience, most men want the women to get the f*ck out of sight as soon as the sex is over. Generally, you don't want them hanging around. Therefore, juggling multiple women may seem like Heaven on the surface, but Hell in actuality. The women, meanwhile, can get a lot more out of such an arrangement than just sex, so perhaps that's why they seem to be more proactive in instigating and maintaining a polyamorous relationship.

Again, this is just what I've observed up close. I'm sure it's different for some people, and there's all kinds of variables involved. It just doesn't seem like a good idea long-term. And the people who attempt it usually come off looking somewhat shady, for reasons not limited to but definitely including that.

PApagreg 06-30-2018 12:31 AM

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Originally Posted by Redeemer (Post 1767441)
This kind of thing I really can never understand. From a psychology stand point I understand why a man would do it if he is just seeking as many partners as possible.(To increase his chance of passing on his DNA) But not a woman.

Because just like men, women get horny too and some of them like the idea of having more than one male partner. Also you are confusing psychology with biology.

Andrew NDB 06-30-2018 03:55 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Leo656 (Post 1767442)
Anecdotally, the only people I've personally known who have attempted to initiate and maintain such an arrangement were women. Worked out great for them, short-term; twice as many guys around to work and pay bills and whatnot.

From the outside looking in, it appeared to be a transparent attempt at manipulating various men into supporting the woman's lifestyle. I'm assuming the men eventually began to suspect the same thing, because in the end nobody was speaking to anyone else. I've only seen it attempted a few times, but it always ended the same way. One guy moved halfway across the country to get away from the girl who f*cked him over so badly. Just up and fled in the middle of the night once he realized she'd been playing him for a chump. Bad scene.

On the surface, I would want to agree that it's a situation that favors the male - "More pu$$y! Whooooooo!" - but in my personal experience, most men want the women to get the f*ck out of sight as soon as the sex is over. Generally, you don't want them hanging around. Therefore, juggling multiple women may seem like Heaven on the surface, but Hell in actuality. The women, meanwhile, can get a lot more out of such an arrangement than just sex, so perhaps that's why they seem to be more proactive in instigating and maintaining a polyamorous relationship.

Again, this is just what I've observed up close. I'm sure it's different for some people, and there's all kinds of variables involved. It just doesn't seem like a good idea long-term. And the people who attempt it usually come off looking somewhat shady, for reasons not limited to but definitely including that.

That's kiiiind of what I suspect the end result is. But I'm not entirely sold. Like has been said, I'd like to see lots of examples and data of... triples? Quadruples? that have weathered the storm for 50 years happily.

I've seen a few examples myself of in-progress ones. But early in their progeny. Many that have combusted within the first couple of years (equally as many with kids involved, sadly... that's when the social media family shots stop for a while) but two I know of that are still going. And one has only to dip a tiny bit into dating apps (it was my experience, anyway, the latest two go-arounds) of lots of folks, "normal" couples seeking "a third," generally another female, with the dude largely being the one speaking for both parties and largely being the "voice" of the couple. At least around here in Seattle. Like, a lot. Like a really large lot. Like 10 times out of 10.

It's just really interesting. Like, what's going on? Like, "careful what you wish for"... maybe? But it seems so multi-layered.

Prowler 06-30-2018 04:36 AM

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Originally Posted by FredWolfLeonardo (Post 1767424)
The most common form of polygamy is actually one man being married to multiple women, and is most common in Africa and the Middle East.

A Malaysian guy I know has an uncle that has two wives and he is not even Muslim... both wives hate each other's guts :lol:

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Originally Posted by Leo656 (Post 1767442)
Anecdotally, the only people I've personally known who have attempted to initiate and maintain such an arrangement were women. Worked out great for them, short-term; twice as many guys around to work and pay bills and whatnot.

From the outside looking in, it appeared to be a transparent attempt at manipulating various men into supporting the woman's lifestyle. I'm assuming the men eventually began to suspect the same thing, because in the end nobody was speaking to anyone else. I've only seen it attempted a few times, but it always ended the same way. One guy moved halfway across the country to get away from the girl who f*cked him over so badly. Just up and fled in the middle of the night once he realized she'd been playing him for a chump. Bad scene.

On the surface, I would want to agree that it's a situation that favors the male - "More pu$$y! Whooooooo!" - but in my personal experience, most men want the women to get the f*ck out of sight as soon as the sex is over. Generally, you don't want them hanging around. Therefore, juggling multiple women may seem like Heaven on the surface, but Hell in actuality. The women, meanwhile, can get a lot more out of such an arrangement than just sex, so perhaps that's why they seem to be more proactive in instigating and maintaining a polyamorous relationship.

Again, this is just what I've observed up close. I'm sure it's different for some people, and there's all kinds of variables involved. It just doesn't seem like a good idea long-term. And the people who attempt it usually come off looking somewhat shady, for reasons not limited to but definitely including that.

Yeah, I mean, even for those who guys have never had sex:notice how after you're jacking off you lose all of your sex drive for a while and start feeling tired and sleepy? Sex and masturbation both make a guy tired and sleepy.

As for the open relationships stuff... yeah I doubt most work. Same for long distance. I've NEVER heard of a long distance relationship that worked.

And what about couples where only one of the sides is allowed to sleep around? As in women who don't mind their man having sex with other women or men who don't mind their women sleeping around, the latter being called "cuckolds".

Open relationships seem like a recipe for disaster, and I can't say it's a common thing. People are naturally jealous and believe relationships should be exclusive, as I do.

plastroncafe 06-30-2018 08:13 AM

What you're talking about is referred to as the refractory period.
And women have one too.

I would posit that the reason so few people have heard of good long-standing open relationships, is because only the bad ones get talked about.

most of the folks that I know who are in open relationships are also part of the Kink Community. A community that is still very much frowned upon, so that could be why y'all haven't heard of any good long term poly relationships.

One of the benefits of not being a jealous person is getting to have these conversations with people.

Candy Kappa 06-30-2018 09:14 AM

Didn't we do a thread about this before? Is the 'Drome just a big rerun forum now? :lol:

As long as it's consensual, I'm all for it.

CyberCubed 06-30-2018 10:11 AM

I assume this would be the most common with young people, like people in College who are just experimenting or fooling around. Same reason threesomes are so common now.

But if you mean a serious relationship when you get older, like your 30's+....I really don't see it working. Once you're an adult and take relationships seriously, your not going to want to share your loved one with someone else.

Prowler 06-30-2018 10:11 AM

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Originally Posted by CyberCubed (Post 1767493)
I assume this would be the most common with young people, like people in College who are just experimenting or fooling around. Same reason threesomes are so common now.

But if you mean a serious relationship when you get older, like your 30's+....I really don't see it working. Once you're an adult and take relationships seriously, your not going to want to share your loved one with someone else.

Proof?

/10characters

FredWolfLeonardo 06-30-2018 12:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Prowler (Post 1767459)
A Malaysian guy I know has an uncle that has two wives and he is not even Muslim... both wives hate each other's guts :lol:


Sister Wives or not, it just seems some women can't help but hate each other lol. And if men are told to share, lets just say someone's most likely gonna hurt.

However, During one of my trips to Pakistan, I do remember meeting a guy with three wives at the hospital. The wives were happily talking to each other like they were close friends and the husband was one of the most jolly looking men I'd ever seen. The wives were wearing burkas and the man had a large beard so they were the tradtional types.

BartAllen 07-01-2018 04:29 PM

Two dudes one chick? One of the guys is a cuck.
Two girls one guy? One of the girls is usually 14.

I don't have a problem with what other adults choose to do, but it's not for me. I can barely please one woman at a time, and I doubt I'm even doing that.

CylonsKlingonsDaleksOhMy 07-01-2018 05:24 PM

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Originally Posted by BartAllen (Post 1767699)
I don't have a problem with what other adults choose to do, but it's not for me. I can barely please one woman at a time, and I doubt I'm even doing that.

You, sir, have won the thread. :tlol:

plastroncafe 07-01-2018 07:19 PM

One person's cuckold is another person's Lucky Pierre.

PApagreg 07-01-2018 07:24 PM

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Originally Posted by BartAllen (Post 1767699)
Two dudes one chick? One of the guys is a cuck.

Would't they be both cucks sense they both screw the chick. Darnit wrong "sense"

Cure 07-01-2018 08:32 PM

I'm against it. Leave some bitches for me, man, damn.

DarkFell 07-01-2018 10:18 PM

Nah.

Polygamy might seem like a good idea in hindsight, but as Leo mentioned, sharing spouses can invoke / provoke some negative emotions. Personal emotions tinged with jealousy aren't the best of things to discuss at the dinner table with the kiddos and the other spouses present.

Also, that is way too many birthdays to remember.

BartAllen 07-13-2018 11:51 AM

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Originally Posted by PApagreg (Post 1767730)
Would't they be both cucks sense they both screw the chick

Yea, you're right.

Andrew NDB 08-10-2018 02:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Leo656 (Post 1767442)
"More pu$$y! Whooooooo!" - but in my personal experience, most men want the women to get the f*ck out of sight as soon as the sex is over. Generally, you don't want them hanging around.

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Originally Posted by plastroncafe (Post 1767477)
What you're talking about is referred to as the refractory period. And women have one too.

Everyone is different... but I've never really felt that. Maybe if there's like... incessant cuddling after 10 minutes. But that's pretty rare.

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Originally Posted by Prowler (Post 1767459)
Same for long distance. I've NEVER heard of a long distance relationship that worked.

For real. People that live down the street from one another or even in the same home have trouble enough making things work... let alone across the continent or further.


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