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CylonsKlingonsDaleksOhMy 07-17-2018 10:59 AM

Batwoman TV Series
 
Leading on from the crossover, Arrowverse is getting its own Batwoman show on the CW.

https://www.comicbookmovie.com/batma...e-kane-a162181

It's another CW show, so I won't be checking it out, but that's pretty cool irregardless.

Sumac 07-17-2018 11:05 AM

Yay? Yay!
Not that I will watch it, but still it's awesome.
I wonder, will it be stylized as a her comic books?

TurtleTitan97 07-17-2018 11:06 AM

http://forums.thetechnodrome.com/showthread.php?t=60225

CylonsKlingonsDaleksOhMy 07-17-2018 11:08 AM

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Originally Posted by TurtleTitan97 (Post 1769587)

My bad, dude, thanks... missed that thread...

TurtleTitan97 07-17-2018 11:11 AM

No worries. Perhaps we could get a mod to combine them both?

Autbot_Benz 07-17-2018 11:26 AM

Batwoman armed with a passion for social justice and flair for speaking her mind . Oh brother this is gonna be supergirl all over again isn't

this is gonna suck isn't it

Sumac 07-17-2018 11:47 AM

"Social Justice"? Seriously?

Autbot_Benz 07-17-2018 11:49 AM

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Originally Posted by Sumac (Post 1769598)
"Social Justice"? Seriously?

its gonna be basically if Papenbrook was batwoman :lol:

ABrown 07-17-2018 11:59 AM

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Originally Posted by TurtleTitan97 (Post 1769587)

So are we just ignoring that thread then?


Anyway, this might possibly be interesting.

So we're all in agreement. At some point when this crosses over with Supergirl, she'll have a thing with Alex...

plastroncafe 07-17-2018 12:07 PM

Provided she makes a pit stop with the Legends, because I think I kind of need her and Sarah to be introduced.

ZariusTwo 07-17-2018 12:51 PM

They're looking for a legit lesbian to play the character

https://tvline.com/2018/07/17/batwom...tress-casting/

plastroncafe 07-17-2018 12:53 PM

I'm curious if they're going to keep her military backstory, now that don't ask don't tell has been repealed.

Autbot_Benz 07-17-2018 01:05 PM

I just hope this show doesn't follow the terrible Supergirl Formula aka

1. Pushing there Liberal Agenda in Certain Episodes
2. Girl Power to the extreme
3. Lesbian Relationship takes over half the season instead of the superhero aspect.
4. Pandering to SJW's.

plastroncafe 07-17-2018 01:17 PM

So:
1) pander to you
2) pander to you
3) pander to you
4) pander to you

That shouldn't be too hard, it's pretty much the formula for every other superhero thing on the air.

CylonsKlingonsDaleksOhMy 07-17-2018 01:29 PM

I'm assuming that since Kate Kane is getting her own TV show, we can count her out for any big-screen appearances for the foreseeable future...

TurtleTitan97 07-17-2018 01:46 PM

I just hope this show is more like Black Lightning in terms of tone, pacing and writing and less like Supergirl. After how the latest season ended, I think I'm close to giving it up.

Andrew NDB 07-17-2018 01:46 PM

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Originally Posted by ZariusTwo (Post 1769607)
They're looking for a legit lesbian to play the character

Of course they are. :roll:

Autbot_Benz 07-17-2018 01:49 PM

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Originally Posted by TurtleTitan97 (Post 1769617)
I just hope this show is more like Black Lightning in terms of tone, pacing and writing and less like Supergirl. After how the latest season ended, I think I'm close to giving it up.

I agree 100% I gave up on Supergirl 4 episodes before s3 ended because it was terrible. If Batwoman is more like black lightning that would be perfect. I Love black lightning

raph27 07-17-2018 02:02 PM

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Originally Posted by plastroncafe (Post 1769612)
So:
1) pander to you
2) pander to you
3) pander to you
4) pander to you

That shouldn't be too hard, it's pretty much the formula for every other superhero thing on the air.

A superhero show can still cover social issues without doing it as awfully as some Supergirl episodes did. The start of season 2 actually handled this well IMO, until the season kept on going and everything that related to real life issues starting sounding like they took a 13 year old's fanfiction and filmed it.

Not everything is black and white. I believe that a superhero show exploring those issues can be interesting and break the mold that others fall into. But saying that it shouldn't take the Supergirl path sounds like a solid idea.

Sumac 07-17-2018 02:15 PM

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Originally Posted by CylonsKlingonsDaleksOhMy (Post 1769614)
I'm assuming that since Kate Kane is getting her own TV show, we can count her out for any big-screen appearances for the foreseeable future...

Didn't thought about it.
This actually quite bad for me, as I really would like to see, Batwoman movie with stylized approach.
Maybe a rare case where Snyder would have been appropriate (as long as he wasn't anywhere close to the handling characters, that is).

sdp 07-17-2018 02:23 PM

I'm not familiar with Batwoman, but hasn't she been around for like a decade now? What has she done since then? All I know is she was a Lesbian since that was literally how they introduced her as the most important aspect of her. Has she done anything since?

How related is she to the Batfamily? She always seemed like the red headed stepchild of the bat family. Will this be in continuity with the other CW shows? So does that mean Batman will finally be acknowledged besides vague references?

Edit: How many shows are there now in the Arrowverse? Arrow, Flash, Legends of Tomorrow, Supergirl, Blacklighting? Batwoman? What am I missing? The animated Vixen shorts? Constantine? It's so overwhelming, I"m like 2 years behind on the Arrowverse but that means I'm like 200 forty minute episodes behind.

Andrew NDB 07-17-2018 02:34 PM

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Originally Posted by sdp (Post 1769627)
I'm not familiar with Batwoman, but hasn't she been around for like a decade now?

Technically? Since 1956.

CylonsKlingonsDaleksOhMy 07-17-2018 02:50 PM

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Originally Posted by sdp (Post 1769627)
I'm not familiar with Batwoman, but hasn't she been around for like a decade now? What has she done since then? All I know is she was a Lesbian since that was literally how they introduced her as the most important aspect of her. Has she done anything since?

How related is she to the Batfamily? She always seemed like the red headed stepchild of the bat family. Will this be in continuity with the other CW shows? So does that mean Batman will finally be acknowledged besides vague references?

Well, she killed Talia al Ghul, she fought some weird ghost things, almost got married to Maggie Sawyer, fought Killer Croc, killed Clayface...

I dunno, I've never cared for her. Bruce Wayne having a cousin seems weird to me. Like, why did Alfred raise him, not Jacob Kane or whoever?

But the Rebirth Detective Comics series did some pretty cool things with her.

ABrown 07-17-2018 02:57 PM

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Originally Posted by sdp (Post 1769627)
I'm not familiar with Batwoman, but hasn't she been around for like a decade now? What has she done since then? All I know is she was a Lesbian since that was literally how they introduced her as the most important aspect of her. Has she done anything since?

How related is she to the Batfamily? She always seemed like the red headed stepchild of the bat family. Will this be in continuity with the other CW shows? So does that mean Batman will finally be acknowledged besides vague references?

I don't read the comics, so I only know her from the DC Animated movies Batman: Bad Blood and Batman: The Mystery of the Batwoman.

Raph's Girl 07-17-2018 05:26 PM

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Originally Posted by sdp (Post 1769627)
I'm not familiar with Batwoman, but hasn't she been around for like a decade now? What has she done since then? All I know is she was a Lesbian since that was literally how they introduced her as the most important aspect of her. Has she done anything since?

How related is she to the Batfamily? She always seemed like the red headed stepchild of the bat family. Will this be in continuity with the other CW shows? So does that mean Batman will finally be acknowledged besides vague references?

Ok... The Batwoman origin is a bit well everywhere. It all started in the 50s with Kathy Kane who was Bruce's aunt (by marriage). Her husband died and a villain (supposadly her father) convinced her that Batman needed to be put down. So she initially became Batwoman to spy on Batman, see how he worked, and then kill him... only....they fell in love. Yep. Brucie's main love interest back in the day was his aunt (they even married). Then she faked her death (came back years later as some sort of secret agent).

The CURRENT Batwoman is Kate Kane, Bruce's Jewish lesbian cousin. This is the Batwoman that'll be the focus of the Arrow-verse. She's rich, a socialite, has an evil twin (Beth aka Alice Liddle), raised by her military dad (Bruce's uncle Col. Jacob Kane), love interest is Renee Montoya, sidekick is her cousin Bette/Flamebird. Kate's a military brat, attended the academy but got kicked out for being a lesbian. She uses her military training to fight. Her father is basically her Alfred.

TurtleTitan97 07-17-2018 05:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Raph's Girl (Post 1769643)
Ok... The Batwoman origin is a bit well everywhere. It all started in the 50s with Kathy Kane who was Bruce's aunt (by marriage). Her husband died and a villain (supposadly her father) convinced her that Batman needed to be put down. So she initially became Batwoman to spy on Batman, see how he worked, and then kill him... only....they fell in love. Yep. Brucie's main love interest back in the day was his aunt (they even married). Then she faked her death (came back years later as some sort of secret agent).

Dare I ask where you got that from? I've never heard of the OG Batwoman being referred to as Bruce's aunt. I doubt the Comics Code Authority would allow that to happen.

Shark_Blade 07-17-2018 05:32 PM

So she gonna be a lesbo like in the comic?

Raph's Girl 07-17-2018 05:44 PM

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Originally Posted by TurtleTitan97 (Post 1769644)
Dare I ask where you got that from? I've never heard of the OG Batwoman being referred to as Bruce's aunt. I doubt the Comics Code Authority would allow that to happen.

She's his aunt by marriage. Not biologically related. Kathy's husband was Bruce's bio uncle Nathan. Martha Wayne (nee Kane) had 4 brothers: Jacob, Nathan, Phillip, and whoever Bette/Flamebird's dad is (he's never been named). Philip actually took care of Bruce for a while after his parents died. But then for whatever reason Alfred ended up raising him. I don't remember how Nathan died but it was after his death that Kathy used her circus skillz (yeah she was in some circus Nathan purchased *lol*) to use as Batwoman.

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Originally Posted by Shark_Blade (Post 1769645)
So she gonna be a lesbo like in the comic?

That's what the article says.

TurtleTitan97 07-17-2018 05:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Raph's Girl (Post 1769649)
She's his aunt by marriage. Not biologically related. Kathy's husband was Bruce's bio uncle Nathan. Martha Wayne (nee Kane) had 4 brothers: Jacob, Nathan, Phillip, and whoever Bette/Flamebird's dad is (he's never been named). Philip actually took care of Bruce for a while after his parents died. But then for whatever reason Alfred ended up raising him. I don't remember how Nathan died but it was after his death that Kathy used her circus skillz (yeah she was in some circus Nathan purchased *lol*) to use as Batwoman.

I looked it up, and I see you were talking about New Earth Kathy Kane: http://dc.wikia.com/wiki/Katherine_Webb_(New_Earth)

I had thought you were talking about Pre Crisis Batwoman, who wasn't his aunt by marriage: http://dc.wikia.com/wiki/Katherine_Kane_(Earth-One)

CyberCubed 07-17-2018 05:48 PM

I'm interested as long as there's a lot of good lesbian kissing and romance in the show, I am a sucker for it.

Autbot_Benz 07-17-2018 05:57 PM

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Originally Posted by CyberCubed (Post 1769651)
I'm interested as long as there's a lot of good lesbian kissing and romance in the show, I am a sucker for it.

dusting off an oldy but goody from Plastron. Nobody wants to see your boner Cybercubed

CyberCubed 07-17-2018 06:00 PM

But at least here we know it's going to happen. And hopefully handled a lot better than the Maggie and Alex "romance" in Supergirl...that literally gave me a goddamn headache how many times they "broke up" or had fights in like a season and a half before they finally broke up for good.

Spike Spiegel 07-17-2018 06:13 PM

If it's as good as season one of Supergirl, I'm all for this. For me, that show is the closest modern equivalent we have to the Donner movies.

I'd imagine it'll end up on that DC Universe streaming service at some point, too.

CylonsKlingonsDaleksOhMy 07-17-2018 07:42 PM

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Originally Posted by CyberCubed (Post 1769653)
But at least here we know it's going to happen. And hopefully handled a lot better than the Maggie and Alex "romance" in Supergirl...that literally gave me a goddamn headache how many times they "broke up" or had fights in like a season and a half before they finally broke up for good.

Dude. It's on CW, same as Supergirl.

It's gonna be the same drama BS, betcha bottom dollah.

ZariusTwo 07-18-2018 08:10 AM

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Originally Posted by CyberCubed (Post 1769653)
But at least here we know it's going to happen. And hopefully handled a lot better than the Maggie and Alex "romance" in Supergirl...that literally gave me a goddamn headache how many times they "broke up" or had fights in like a season and a half before they finally broke up for good.

It will not surprise me one bit if Maggie winds up in this..given that she was Kate's comic book love interest for a long time and they were close to tying the knot until Dan Didio mandated it not happen, forcing the creative team at the time to leave in protest.

Sumac 07-18-2018 08:20 AM

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Originally Posted by CyberCubed (Post 1769651)
I'm interested as long as there's a lot of good lesbian kissing and romance in the show, I am a sucker for it.

So progressive of you. :lol:

Coola Yagami 07-18-2018 09:26 AM

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Originally Posted by CyberCubed (Post 1769651)
I'm interested as long as there's a lot of good lesbian kissing and romance in the show, I am a sucker for it.

Let's leave your fetishes out of this amigo.

Redeemer 07-18-2018 11:55 AM

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Originally Posted by ZariusTwo (Post 1769607)
They're looking for a legit lesbian to play the character

https://tvline.com/2018/07/17/batwom...tress-casting/

Really???? wow talk about bold.

Really disgusted to see them discriminate and exclude other talented actors based on their sexual orientation..... I am happy to see a homosexual character get a tv show, bc it shows improvement in equality and diversity within our society, but again this is hypocritical..... I said this before and I will say this again hire the best actress/actor for the role.....

Andrew NDB 07-18-2018 12:20 PM

Is that even legal? Like, to apply to read for said part, they ask you, "OK, we like your reel... but are you attracted to the same sex in your personal life?" and if not, you can't read for the part?

oldmanwinters 07-18-2018 12:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Andrew NDB (Post 1769695)
Is that even legal? Like, to apply to read for said part, they ask you, "OK, we like your reel... but are you attracted to the same sex in your personal life?" and if not, you can't read for the part?

Haha, I'm sure there are corporately acceptable ways around it, like saying "it's not a deal breaker, but we really thought they'd be right for this part because..."


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