Sony's Kraven the Hunter
 

What a horrible idea.

Let's go over the scrapped ideas Sony had for the Spider-Man franchise, shall we?

1. Felicia Hardy as Vulture Jr.
2. A Venom movie that somehow followed up on Spider-Man 3, despite Eddie and the symbiote both dying in that movie.
3. The Sinister Six movie that had more to do with Thunderbolts than the S6.
4. Gwen Stacy coming back to life with Spider-Powers.
5. A Black Cat/Silver Sable team-up movie.
6. Another Venom movie that was meant to follow the Amazing series, despite not setting up Venom in the slightest.
7. Aunt May, secret Agent.

I know they have to reach in order to make spin-offs (Spidey ain't as extensive as X-Men after all) but yeesh...

Jaysus, who would even go and see that?

Not me. Least interestimg of Spider-Man's enemies.

Its a stretch to make a decent movie out of Venom and how anything can work without Spider-Man involved and it being a quality product is likely zero to none. Studios need to quit announcing films until they go into casting stage of a film. Learn from DC!

All I remember reading from Spiderman comic is that he’s a hunter nutcase that likes prancing around naked in his house.

Think about the Gilligan's Island episode where the big game hunter had conquered all species except for his own so he hunts an oddity of his own kind, Gilligan. Kraven was turned on to hunting a fellow human after his older half-brother was humiliated by him. Only in Kraven's Last Hunt did he realize he was hunting another human and allowed to defeat his prey and see things the way Spider-Man does. Its bull to bring him back. His story was told, character realized his goal of killing Spider-Man was foolish so he does himself in with all of his goals checked off. Why a hunter who was not evil would want to hunt anorher human and consider it the ultimate challenge is beyond me. Sorry, I love Spider-Man's rogues gallery, but I allways saw Kraven as questionable in motive and concept. Spider-Man: The Animated Series did well in handling him and limited him to two episodes. I cant say that for the rest of the character's other media history.

I’ll have to re-read the comic again. I bought it because it’s listed as among the greatest Spiderman comic stories ever told. Cheers. :tthumbsu:

It looks like Nick Spencer is trying to build him up as a potential major threat again in his ASM run, so I'd be on the look out for that

Crazy theory: Sony sees Disney deal for Fox happening. They start "developing" contradictory stuff, beginning with Venom. The worst thing is if Venom is a hit. Then Disney has to listen. Then Sony follows things up with Kraven about to go into production...

My point is... is Sony just jockeying to get Disney to pay maximum top dollar for Spider-Man rights?

It actually seems a bit smart and savvy, if true.

Basically, Sony intentionally makes crap to pressure Disney into buying the full rights at an outrageously high bid?

Seems kind of silly, seeing how their deal with Disney is set-up. I believe Sony just thinks it's better to take a cut of Disney's profits from "real" Spider-Man movies, while they can safely experiment with the somewhat limited character pool of Spider-Man in hopes that they can make something that works in their favor. You know, not all eggs in the same basket. Main Spider-Man movies will always make Sony some money while investing very little in them (Sony only gave around 35 million to Homecoming's budget), then they can focus on smaller budgeted spin-off franchises they collect all the profits from.

Even if Venom and Spider-Verse end up flopping, I'm willing to bet neither one cost more than 100 million.

Kraven?
Why not someone more decent? Hobgoblin for example?

Seems like the audiences aren't Kraven this movie.

I'm not crazy for any of those ideas, but (1.) and (7.) are really weird ideas.

Keep Petey's dead parents as the American spies. Keep Aunt May as Peter's moral compass.

I don't mind Felicia Hardy becoming the Black Cat, but Hardy as VJ? Nope.

The more I hear of Sony putting out these ideas, the more I worry for their future outside the Playstation division. Kraven is not good enough to get his own movie.

Makes more sense than my theory.

That Sony is actually run by a cabal of cocaine-addicted autistic pangolins.

I'd take they just throw any ideas on the wall in hopes to make that sweet cinematic universe thing going.
Problem is they are lacking talent and their managers just can not sit on their hands for 5 seconds without interfering with production of the movies. This what have killed both Raimi's Spider-Man and ASM.

It'll eventually cause problems for MCU Spiderman, too. Just wait.

Actually, that's what Disney/MCU should have done. WAIT. Wait until they could buy everything back, and not settle for this joint-custody arrangement where Sony and Amy Pascal keep screwing things up.

It wouldn't surprise me to see Sony attempt the "Kraven's Last Hunt" storyline with Eddie Brock in the place of Peter Parker and Kraven donning the symbiote instead of the black spider-man suit.

Not a bad idea that

The movie will involve Spider-Man

https://www.newsarama.com/42298-sony...last-hunt.html

So they say, I'll believe it when I see it

We are at that point of saturation with comic book movies where everyone is trying to get a piece of the pie, and we will start seeing more of this nonsense pumped out to try and cash in until we respond as the market with lack of buying.

The downside of Venom doing well is Sony will continue to pursue this pathetic Sony Spiderverse. I can't say I didn't smile when Venom did well and watched the MCU fanboys/Disney/Geek blogs in tears so it was worth it.

I thought the superhero movie market was going to crash after the first avengers but it only got stronger. I think with Avengers 4 being the "end" of the current marvel phases it'll slow down though. It's been going on for too long and nothing lasts forever.

Very true... though let's not count our chickens before they've hatched. Things could still freefall into the 2nd weekend. As of right now it hasn't even made its money back yet.

Comic book movies currently are diversified, but if all studios will start to try and ape "Marvel style" it will quickly implode.
Success of comic book movies is currently in the hands of DC - if they can make GOOD movies with different tone than Marvel stuff, it will allow CMBs to fly for some more time.

It already more than doubled it's budget worldwide which is the general rule of breaking even.

Still not going to see it. Venom 2: Maxium Carnage would not be right, but at least Venom as a film is interesting.

What if the Spider-Man they use is Miles Morales? They can't use Peter Parker because he's currently in the MCU.

They can use peter parker if they want. I doubt Marvel studios has exclusivity since sony is sharing with them

It doesn't make sense having two versions of Peter Parker. One in the SUMC and the other in the MCU.

They will use Tom Holland.

My hope is that this means Sony and Marvel have worked out a deal in which they can each have their own Spider-Man. Let Marvel do Marvel and bring someone else in for your Sony-Verse. Hell, bring back Tobey Maguire or Andrew Garfield for Kraven's Last Hunt. We can still have Tom Holland's Spider-Man safe and secure in the MCU. That's my ideal scenario.

My prediction is that Sony likes to tactically use the "will they/won't they?!" ploy in order to drum up interest in their films.
With Venom, a lot of social media talk revolved around whether or not Spider-Man would show up in his movie. Now we see a bunch of people discussing the same thing with Kraven, due to vague hints. Whether or not Spider-Man will be in it, twice as many people are talking about the film and spreading the word now that the question is in the air. Quite annoying if that is the case.

He’s owned by Sony so yeah.

I could get behind this, especially if they actually have Spidey involved. Kraven was originally hired by Jameson to hunt down Spider-Man and bring him to justice as a "menace". The fact that it fits with his own iffy morality of hunting a human as the "ultimate challenge" was just icing. As a long-time fan of Spider-Man, I have always liked Kraven. He is one of the more complicated rogues in Spidey's gallery, and has played several roles over the years. And having read Kraven's Last Hunt, I would love to see that story incorporated somehow.

It's not even a question.

Aaron Taylor Johnson has been Cast as Kraven

https://www.comicbookmovie.com/spide...ohnson-a185132

January 13, 2023. release date