Is the show worth watching
 

I believe i saw the first 2 or 3 episodes and wasn't impressed I loved the vast majority of the other 3 main series and the first 2 Live Action movies. My question is has the show gotten better since the first few episodes or is it pretty much the same?

It's pretty much the same.

Yeah, with the exception of last weekend's arc-related "Bug Busters" (that comparably is one of the rare gems within this series so far), the majority of the episodes are about the same as those you've seen.

Yes! Very worth it!

Personally, I watched the entirety of three epsiodes: "Mystic Mayhem", "Down With The Sickness", and "Repo Mantis". Having seen all of them, while I can tolerate Repo in moderation, overall, I'd have to agree with the majority here that it's just more of the same. The only possible exception springing to mind being the Bug Busters episode (which I haven't bothered watching all of) for its cameos of older characters, implying they will appear later, though even then, I'm not holding my breath that it will be good.

What older characters made cameos?

Bebop, Rocksteady, Halfcourt, Leatherhead.

If you ever wanted to see Next Mutation as an animated series this is the show for you 🤮

What Ken said, and given the context all of them appeared in, combined with the commentary by a Tumblr user who claims to have an inside connection, I’m expecting a portrayal that’s not faithful at all to past eras (in most cases, anyway) of the two allies that are Leatherhead and Halfcourt.

"Rise" would need a stepladder to reach the heights of Next Mutation.

Both junk, but TNM at least pretends to respect its source material. You could plug any "wacky/goofy" characters into "Rise" and it would be the exact same show. TMNT in name only.

So we got a cameo for a mutant who only appeared as an action figure from the original series line. That's pretty cool. Hopefully that means the other mutants from the toys will also show up. Given this new shows emphasis on mutants.
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It won't be long until this guy shows up. King Lionheart
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This character would be a perfect fit for Rise. a Shakespearean actor turned Mutant Lion.

Yeah but these characters will likely stay as cameos so try not to request for full appearances.:lol:

Yeah, I'm in agreement with everyone else here. Very few interesting episodes and not a lot to keep me fully invested. Has few decent ideas but not holding my breath for any of them to be fully realized.

Part of me hopes you’re right: if the 80s-cartoon attire my favorite character is wearing is any indication of his role should he have an actual appearance, I’ll officially give up my hopes for his future in the franchise as a whole.

It would be that series' answer to Old Hob and Tigerclaw.

I think Leo656 is blowing it a bit out of proportion by calling this TMNT in name only, but it could certainly try a bit harder to be faithful to the source material, and there are a few places in which it actually seems to be trying not to be faithful. Most notably with Splinter; if you thought his behavior was occasionally questionable in last series, prepare to hate this new version of him with a passion. Every time Splinter has appeared in this series, he's been played for laughs; less out of wit and more because he's weird and maybe senile. The only thing keeping it from being worse is he doesn't appear too often.

The rest of the characters are tolerable but shallow. All of the turtles seem to have a similar personality now, although for once in bad TMNT characterization history, that similar personality isn't just Fred Wolf Michelangelo. Sometimes April has a different sort of personality to work as a foil, but other times she has the same personality as the turtles.

All of the villains are original to this series so far, and while they can be fun, they're almost all small-timers, so it feels like nothing big is ever really at stake. As of Bug Busters, we've finally gotten a sign that something deeper is going on; for example, we get an explanation for mutagen existing. But next episode it's back to being episodic.

TMNT has been episodic many times before without issue. Even the Mirage series had one-off stories. But the difference is that before, the series had a stronger identity to latch onto and stick with, and that's missing here, for the reasons noted above. There are heroes (or at least anti-heroes) fighting villains, and while some great action and even great jokes happen in the process, how little the show makes you care about the heroes and villains in question leaves it underwhelming. The show is certainly watchable, but there isn't a big reason to watch it over other action-comedy shows.

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Rise hasn't changed what kind of show it's trying to be, so if you generally weren't feeling that direction then it's unlikely that any of the new episodes will change your mind.

But I think the recent episodes are much stronger than the earlier ones, so if you're open and interested in checking out some newer episodes I think "The Gumbus," "Bug Busters (pt 1&2)," and "Purple Jacket" are solid choices.

-JJ

Very bad. It is only some stupid mutants mostly and this Stockman and Purple dragons are not threat since they are just kids and so i cant use them to work for me!

April is a kid (again), Baxter is a kid, the Purple Dragons are kids... I almost wish and would laugh pretty good if Shredder is a kid. Bahahaha.

I absolutely love it but I'm not going to drive myself mad trying to convince anyone biased against it that it's worth their time.

Take it as it's own thing, a comedy driven, parody-lite, balls to the walls re-imagining trying to subvert your expectations, and you might like it. Go into it angry that it isn't doing X, Y, or Z, and you'll hate it, I guess.

The main thing that Rise has going against itself is that it replaces a version of the TMNT which was well thought out and brought together the best parts of previous versions.

- The Utrom council and Bishop from the 2003 series
- Alopex from the IDW series
- The Triceratons and Fugitoid from the Mirage series. (To be honest, I wasn't quite sure if I was going to dig those "lost in space" episodes but they turned out to be awesome.)
- The Punk frogs
- Making references to the movies in episodes like "Requiem"
- Referencing the "Me, myself and I" Mirage special which sees the introduction of Casey Jones

And took a fresh look at well established characters and made them different
- April is a teenager
- Casey Jones is a teenager and different from other incarnations, Casey and April do not become a couple.
- Master Splinter isn't a small stature seventies-something Yoda-kind of character but a 6 feet tall, very fit guy in his forties.
- The series was one continuous story, you can't watch episodes without them giving big spoilers to what happened before.
- Each turtle has a very distinct look. That was by far the best thing they did to the Turtles themselves and the idea that they all look different is also used in the Rise series.

So having to make a follow up to a show which went the distance as far as it did, would be like being on the Bill with a band like Queen, no way to follow it. So they didn't, they went at it with another POV.

But it IS telling that they've changed Michelangelo the least, no need to improve on perfection.
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When watching Rise, I'm still waiting to hear him go "Booyakasha!"
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Michelangelo seems to stand out less here though because Leonardo is the funny one in this version. I do really like this version of Leo though but I kinda hope he matures more over time.

WHAT?! Iam 31 years old not kid! But i had very good ninja skills even when was kid but no IWLL NOT be a kid! I became the leader of foot ninjas when i was already an adult not a kid. At least i hope this Hun is an adult so i can have him as my second in command again. At least i still have Bebop and Rocksteady!! That something!

Sure, Hun can be an adult. Perhaps kid-Shredder's baby sitter.

Yeah, he's less annoying, dumb, and loud compared to the previous cartoon but there's not a lot to his character besides being happy and optimistic.

Personally, I’m convinced Leonardo in ROT was meant to take the role of Michelangelo of prior eras, this in mind.

The show is not that great in my opinion, but because of the fact I’m a fan of the TMNT, there are things from it I can enjoy. Donatello is pretty funny in this version. I’m interested to see how far the series will go and also what will happen with the introduction of Shred Head. Maybe after that happens, Splinter will turn of the idiot box and get off his arse lol.
Like lots of things in life, if you don’t have incredibly high expectations, then you won’t be let down.

I wholeheartedly support you in this. You can absolutely do better.

WHAT? Hun is a crime boss not baby sitter. He is one my best henchmen!

I mean it could've been way worse...we could have gotten a Half-Sell Heroes series or any of those random TMNT shorts like the Breadwinners one. The most tolerable one was "We Strike Hard and Fade Away into the Night". Aside from that one though, Rise is more tolerable than any of those but that isn't saying much.

I would have been happier with something closer to the the "We Strike Hard" short or especially the one by Jhonen Vasquez, "Raph vs Don" if they wanted to stay with the more silly route. Invader Zim was beyond silly sometimes, but also had those episodes sprinkled in that were pretty intelligent and I very much enjoyed them.

I dunno... I don't HATE Rise, but you cant go into it comparing it to other series because if you do, you won't like it. It, by itself for what it is, isn't terrible, but it's also not doing the franchise any favors in my opinion.

Donatello is by far the best part of the series for me personally, but I don't hate the rest of them... I'm also not super stoked about them either. The series as a whole just can't hold a candle to the 2012 turtles. No way, but if you don't compare them... it's watchable.

You just gotta take it for what it is and eventually I'm hoping we'll get a more gritty series in the future. For now I'm at least finally starting to save money again. :tlol:

The more I try to watch, the more I say:

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I enjoy how carefree and goofy the show is. Like the 80s show.
And I do like that villians are goofy as well, but that the main character, Draxxum seems like a big deal
Have you seen the sneak peek of tomorrow's episode? Man, I feel like the plot would get a little bit serious after this episode

I enjoy it. It's far from my favorite, but there are a few solid episodes that I enjoy watching over and over again. One of these episodes is definitely "Bug Busters" - a personal favorite of mine. With other episodes, I don't go out of my way to watch them again, but I might catch them on reruns if they're on. With each new episode, I look forward to them furthering the plot or see past TMNT references. As much as I loved Donnie in the beginning, his character is beginning to get on my nerves. As with every other series, Leo is becoming my favorite, even though he has some serious issues to work through to get over this less-than-humble version of him.:roll:

Wow. Seems like Rise on the whole isn't going down too well. I can't comment as I haven't seen it. Didn't even get round to the last incarnation on Nickeledon. It does look like the character designs get worse as time goes on though!

Hello and welcome to the forum. And the last series on Nick set the bar pretty high for a lot of fans. As far as Rise goes, it was a big disappointment to many people from the get-go (as soon as the designs were revealed). As stated above, I don't mind the new show, but I'm one of those a bit disappointed on how they are handling the Turtles now. It's not all bad, though. If Rise isn't your cup of tea, you might want to check out the 2012 series. It wasn't without issues, but it is a pretty big fan-favorite in the franchise.

Yeah I should get round to the 2012 Nick show. Although the designs initially put me off a bit I've heard sufficiently good stuff about it that I think I can put that aside and try to enjoy the writing and characters. Have heard a lot of good things about those aspects of the show.