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Raph's Girl 08-04-2018 03:45 PM

Post-TNG Picard series
 
Aaand it's official. The next CBS All Access Star Trek series will star Sir Patrick Stewart as Picard and will be post-TNG. Focusing on "the next chapter" in Picard's life. Whatever that means.

https://www.cnet.com/news/star-trek-...an-luc-picard/

Patrick just posted this on FB:

"I will always be very proud to have been a part of Star Trek: The Next Generation, but when we wrapped that final movie in the spring of 2002, I truly felt my time with Star Trek had run its natural course. It is, therefore, an unexpected but delightful surprise to find myself excited and invigorated to be returning to Jean-Luc Picard and to explore new dimensions within him. Seeking out new life for him, when I thought that life was over.

During these past years, it has been humbling to hear stories about how The Next Generation brought people comfort, saw them through difficult periods in their lives or how the example of Jean-Luc inspired so many to follow in his footsteps, pursuing science, exploration and leadership. I feel I'm ready to return to him for the same reason – to research and experience what comforting and reforming light he might shine on these often very dark times. I look forward to working with our brilliant creative team as we endeavor to bring a fresh, unexpected and pertinent story to life once more."

Vegita-San 08-04-2018 03:48 PM

PLEASE be good.

re unite the old team. Keep JJ and Discovery crew FARRRR away from it.

oldmanwinters 08-04-2018 04:31 PM

I'll be he uses the Holographic deck to pretend he's running the American CIA.

CylonsKlingonsDaleksOhMy 08-04-2018 04:46 PM

https://i.imgur.com/56R5C0t.gif

CyberCubed 08-04-2018 05:51 PM

I look forward to cameos from the rest of the TNG cast, no doubt Riker and Worf will show, and of course Data. Maybe some DS9 or Voyager characters too.

At least Star Trek: Nemesis now won't be the last appearance of Picard and maybe some of the others on-screen.

Andrew NDB 08-04-2018 06:02 PM

I will support the f*** out of this. But still, I'm cautious about what shape this will take. If it's just some edgy black ops team going on adventures (like STD), with just Picard doing occasional token appearances? Eh... but hell, even then... cool.

CylonsKlingonsDaleksOhMy 08-04-2018 07:38 PM

Hopefully, if this takes off and lasts long enough, we can see cameo appearances by Riker, Data, Troi, and Crusher. And maybe they can work in Michael Dorn as a supporting character... He has been wanting a Worf spinoff for years!

I'd love to see cameo appearances by Janeway, Sisko, Seven, Bashir, Odo, and the Doctor!

Andrew NDB 08-04-2018 10:21 PM

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Originally Posted by CylonsKlingonsDaleksOhMy (Post 1772766)
Hopefully, if this takes off and lasts long enough, we can see cameo appearances by Riker, Data, Troi, and Crusher. And maybe they can work in Michael Dorn as a supporting character... He has been wanting a Worf spinoff for years!

I'd love to see cameo appearances by Janeway, Sisko, Seven, Bashir, Odo, and the Doctor!

If they show up (and we can be sure they will), it would be far bigger than mere cameos.

Roseangelo 08-04-2018 11:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Andrew NDB (Post 1772757)
I will support the f*** out of this. But still, I'm cautious about what shape this will take. If it's just some edgy black ops team going on adventures (like STD), with just Picard doing occasional token appearances? Eh... but hell, even then... cool.

I see it being more like the episode "Family." Hopefully with the occasional visit from some old Enterprise crewmates.

I'm in.

ZariusTwo 08-05-2018 05:24 AM

Just hope Ahab isn't out to hunt his whale again. Movie Picard is worst Picard.

CyberCubed 08-05-2018 11:00 AM

I just wish Patrick Stewart wasn't 78 years old, by the time this show starts filming he'll be 79. I just hope he's healthy enough in his 80's to keep this going for awhile.

A real shame they didn't get to do this back in say....2010 or so, when he was a lot younger.

newfan 08-05-2018 11:09 AM

I felt a little like that to a point with SW although they were younger.

I like Stewart as an actor, I was more for the original ST crew but Picard really did grow on me. I'll take a look at this when it airs.

CylonsKlingonsDaleksOhMy 01-08-2019 09:07 PM

Star Trek: Picard
 
https://www-hollywoodreporter-com.cd...www.google.com

Honestly, this is exactly what I was hoping for! If anyone can make that plot point from Star Trek 2009 compelling, it's Sir Patrick Stewart!

ZariusTwo 01-09-2019 02:12 AM

Yes, "Countdown" is canon:D

Andrew NDB 01-09-2019 02:17 AM

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Originally Posted by ZariusTwo (Post 1788553)
Yes, "Countdown" is canon:D

Sure sounds like it, or probably the broad strokes of it. I own that, that's the only IDW Trek comic I do.

My only thing, and it's a super, super nitpicky thing and I only mention it because it's us and it's here... OK. So, post-Nemesis, Spock disappears into the Abramsverse... and there's not, like, the mother of all investigations into it? i.e., we need to go and save him from whatever f***ed up piece of [creatively] broken time he ended up in, like at precisely the moment he arrived in? It's the kind of thing that would be solved in 1 episode of anything.

Mostly I'm sad that the real Star Trek timeline has no idea what happened to Spock. In their eyes, he tried to save Romulus and failed. Probably in others' eyes, he helped cause it. Or maybe there's story potential in the controversy.

Though maybe I solved my own dilemma. They probably assume he just died, not going through time and splinter dimensions or whatever. No one even knew that was a property of mystery box matter.

CylonsKlingonsDaleksOhMy 01-09-2019 09:19 AM

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Originally Posted by Andrew NDB (Post 1788554)
Sure sounds like it, or probably the broad strokes of it. I own that, that's the only IDW Trek comic I do.

My only thing, and it's a super, super nitpicky thing and I only mention it because it's us and it's here... OK. So, post-Nemesis, Spock disappears into the Abramsverse... and there's not, like, the mother of all investigations into it? i.e., we need to go and save him from whatever f***ed up piece of [creatively] broken time he ended up in, like at precisely the moment he arrived in? It's the kind of thing that would be solved in 1 episode of anything.

Mostly I'm sad that the real Star Trek timeline has no idea what happened to Spock. In their eyes, he tried to save Romulus and failed. Probably in others' eyes, he helped cause it. Or maybe there's story potential in the controversy.

Though maybe I solved my own dilemma. They probably assume he just died, not going through time and splinter dimensions or whatever. No one even knew that was a property of mystery box matter.

That. If Jim Kirk was still around, or Bones McCoy wasn't pushing 170, then yeah, somebody would poke around and investigate.

But weighing the importance of one elderly Vulcan ambassador against an entire antagonistic empire that has just completely destabilized...

Andrew NDB 01-09-2019 01:10 PM

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Originally Posted by CylonsKlingonsDaleksOhMy (Post 1788578)
That. If Jim Kirk was still around, or Bones McCoy wasn't pushing 170, then yeah, somebody would poke around and investigate.

But weighing the importance of one elderly Vulcan ambassador against an entire antagonistic empire that has just completely destabilized...

True, true...

Andrew NDB 03-03-2019 02:06 AM

Character breakdowns? Apparently.

http://www.darkhorizons.com/first-pi...er-breakdowns/

Eh... jeeze. I'm reading these and I'm just imagining the kind of series direction they'll do. And it sounds like more "Edgy Trek"... but I'm also imagining Stewart around trying to corral these foos and it being... pretty OK. But I dunno.

ZariusTwo 03-03-2019 04:10 AM

Why does this read a lot like Crusade?

CylonsKlingonsDaleksOhMy 03-03-2019 03:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Andrew NDB (Post 1797004)
Character breakdowns? Apparently.

http://www.darkhorizons.com/first-pi...er-breakdowns/

Eh... jeeze. I'm reading these and I'm just imagining the kind of series direction they'll do. And it sounds like more "Edgy Trek"... but I'm also imagining Stewart around trying to corral these foos and it being... pretty OK. But I dunno.

Yeah, the casting breakdowns are iffy.

But I'm still hopeful. Patrick Stewart wants to do it, and I trust him. Except for the whole Emoji movie, but I'm pretty sure that was just a WTF chuckle for him.

Jester 03-03-2019 04:30 PM

It's Trek set post Nemesis that has Patrick Stewart as Picard, I'll at least give it a chance.

Heck, I'm still giving Discovery "a chance" so...

Andrew NDB 03-05-2019 12:34 AM

Some names are confirmed. See if you can pick which role they're playing, based on the other thing:

http://www.darkhorizons.com/cabrera-...d-trek-series/

Andrew NDB 03-14-2019 11:57 AM

Some dude joins as a regular cast member:

http://www.darkhorizons.com/evan-eva...series-picard/

CylonsKlingonsDaleksOhMy 03-14-2019 12:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Andrew NDB (Post 1798761)
Some dude joins as a regular cast member:

http://www.darkhorizons.com/evan-eva...series-picard/

"Some dude." :tlol:

ZariusTwo 04-22-2019 05:37 AM


Andrew NDB 04-22-2019 02:10 PM

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Originally Posted by ZariusTwo (Post 1804143)

FAKE news. It started filming today.

http://trekcore.com/blog/2019/04/pic...bk0kwKo7--5afo

I'm seeing a lot of people commenting about Picard being with a group of Section 31 on the show... is there anything official about that?

CylonsKlingonsDaleksOhMy 04-22-2019 02:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Andrew NDB (Post 1804168)
FAKE news. It started filming today.

http://trekcore.com/blog/2019/04/pic...bk0kwKo7--5afo

I'm seeing a lot of people commenting about Picard being with a group of Section 31 on the show... is there anything official about that?

First I've heard THAT rumor. Where are you seeing it? Sounds faker than Data having a sex life with Tasha Yar to me...

Andrew NDB 04-22-2019 02:33 PM

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Originally Posted by CylonsKlingonsDaleksOhMy (Post 1804169)
First I've heard THAT rumor. Where are you seeing it? Sounds faker than Data having a sex life with Tasha Yar to me...

Largely the comments of that video. Like this one:

"I hope this show never sees the light of day. Picard would never work for Section 31. If they can't get his principles right, lord only knows what else they'll get wrong."

Like, do they know something we don't?

Could be people have been hearing "A new show with Section 31 is happening!" and "New Picard show is happening!" and they're assuming they're one and the same thing?

CylonsKlingonsDaleksOhMy 04-22-2019 02:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Andrew NDB (Post 1804172)
Largely the comments of that video. Like this one:

"I hope this show never sees the light of day. Picard would never work for Section 31. If they can't get his principles right, lord only knows what else they'll get wrong."

Like, do they know something we don't?

Could be people have been hearing "A new show with Section 31 is happening!" and "New Picard show is happening!" and they're assuming they're one and the same thing?

Ah, got it. I didn't even watch the video, 'cause you can instantly see it's nothing but speculation.

I think your theory is absolutely correct: people hear "Picard show" and "Section 31 show" and have no idea they're two different things.

Andrew NDB 04-22-2019 02:52 PM

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Originally Posted by CylonsKlingonsDaleksOhMy (Post 1804174)
Ah, got it. I didn't even watch the video, 'cause you can instantly see it's nothing but speculation.

Yep, I just skimmed over it as well. Speculation city.

I like this comment: "We will not sacrifice Picard, we made too many compromises, too many retreats. They made the Kelvin movies and we fell back, they made Star Trek: Discovery and we fell back... not again! This far and no further! The line must be drawn here! We, we will not pay for what they have done!"

CylonsKlingonsDaleksOhMy 04-22-2019 04:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Andrew NDB (Post 1804176)
Yep, I just skimmed over it as well. Speculation city.

I like this comment: "We will not sacrifice Picard, we made too many compromises, too many retreats. They made the Kelvin movies and we fell back, they made Star Trek: Discovery and we fell back... not again! This far and no further! The line must be drawn here! We, we will not pay for what they have done!"

:tlol:

Damn good quote there. But are they quoting Picard or Quark? :twink:

ZariusTwo 05-13-2019 12:15 PM

Series will stream across Amazon Prime internationally

https://io9.gizmodo.com/the-star-tre...ide-1834716481

Raph's Girl 05-23-2019 03:45 PM

"So....why DID you leave starfleet, Admiral?" :o


CylonsKlingonsDaleksOhMy 05-23-2019 04:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Raph's Girl (Post 1807222)
"So....why DID you leave starfleet, Admiral?" :o


Damn good teaser trailer.

MAKE IT FVCKING SO.

Andrew NDB 05-24-2019 11:22 AM

He let himself become an admiral? A shame he didn't heed Kirk's advice.

On a sidenote: when STP becomes the accepted acronym for Star Trek: Picard, can the naysayers admit that STD is the only sensible acronym for Star Trek: "Discovery"?

*edit: It's looking like STP is going to be an immigration story. After the Prime timeline events of the JJ film, Romulans are now refugees, and the Federation fails to live up to its ideals by denying them asylum. Picard (who will probably be sought out by a Romulan friend) will lead a ragtag crew of criminals and questionables to sneak Romulans across the Neutral Zone and settle them illegally in sanctuary planets that are willing to host them.

I hope not, though. If it turns out TPTB is going to be exploiting fans' love of Patrick Stewart and Picard to try and co-opt viewers into getting behind open borders... that's going to be very unfortunate.

sdp 05-24-2019 01:24 PM

There's nothing wrong with immigration, in fact it's a necessity for economies and Star Trek has always been progressive. I'm sure people will get triggered by it no matter how tastefully it's done.

CylonsKlingonsDaleksOhMy 05-24-2019 01:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Andrew NDB (Post 1807333)
He let himself become an admiral? A shame he didn't heed Kirk's advice.

On a sidenote: when STP becomes the accepted acronym for Star Trek: Picard, can the naysayers admit that STD is the only sensible acronym for Star Trek: "Discovery"?

*edit: It's looking like STP is going to be an immigration story. After the Prime timeline events of the JJ film, Romulans are now refugees, and the Federation fails to live up to its ideals by denying them asylum. Picard (who will probably be sought out by a Romulan friend) will lead a ragtag crew of criminals and questionables to sneak Romulans across the Neutral Zone and settle them illegally in sanctuary planets that are willing to host them.

I hope not, though. If it turns out TPTB is going to be exploiting fans' love of Patrick Stewart and Picard to try and co-opt viewers into getting behind open borders... that's going to be very unfortunate.

If anyone should've been an admiral, it was Sisko. Commanding officer of a starbase, leading military officer and one of the top minds involved in the Dominion War's strategies and planning, and ranking officer and diplomat in charge of ushering Bajor into the Federation. That's all way above a captain's rank.

And while Picard is a paragon of virtue and leadership, I don't see Picard as an admiral. I think they should have gone the Ambassador route, instead. His gifts for diplomacy, problem-solving, and leadership were the best and, frankly, his desire for a Starfleet rank was always more about exploration, not the military.

Regardless of politics, I think this will be a great story. It makes sense given Picard's mindmelds with Sarek and Spock, his desire for Romulan peace and his past encounters with Shinzon... oh, and let's not forget Sela. Picard has a long history with the Romulan Star Empire and his desire to see them reconciled to a peaceful coexistence with the Federation. And if Starfleet and the Federation Council decide to take a hardliner stance with the Romulans' crisis, Picard standing up to them absolutely makes sense. Whether or not we agree with American open borders.

Also, welcome back, man! Been far too fvcking long without you around.

ZariusTwo 05-24-2019 01:36 PM

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Originally Posted by sdp (Post 1807352)
There's nothing wrong with immigration, in fact it's a necessity for economies and Star Trek has always been progressive. I'm sure people will get triggered by it no matter how tastefully it's done.

Most of Hollywood no longer goes about it tastefully or subtly, which is the main problem. It's almost always in-your-face and comes with a sense of smug superiority as well as an arrogant condemnation of people who don't agree with their world view.

Andrew NDB 05-24-2019 01:39 PM

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Originally Posted by CylonsKlingonsDaleksOhMy (Post 1807354)
If anyone should've been an admiral, it was Sisko. Commanding officer of a starbase, leading military officer and one of the top minds involved in the Dominion War's strategies and planning, and ranking officer and diplomat in charge of ushering Bajor into the Federation. That's all way above a captain's rank.

Agreed.

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And while Picard is a paragon of virtue and leadership, I don't see Picard as an admiral. I think they should have gone the Ambassador route, instead. His gifts for diplomacy, problem-solving, and leadership were the best and, frankly, his desire for a Starfleet rank was always more about exploration, not the military.
Yeah, I always figured that when he was done being captain he would spend his twilight years doing ambassador stuff. An admiral? He'd just retire before that, I'd wager.

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Regardless of politics, I think this will be a great story. It makes sense given Picard's mindmelds with Sarek and Spock, his desire for Romulan peace and his past encounters with Shinzon... oh, and let's not forget Sela. Picard has a long history with the Romulan Star Empire and his desire to see them reconciled to a peaceful coexistence with the Federation. And if Starfleet and the Federation Council decide to take a hardliner stance with the Romulans' crisis, Picard standing up to them absolutely makes sense. Whether or not we agree with American open borders.
Oh, I don't doubt it makes sense. It's just... you just know that if there wasn't this big debate going on right now and if this story wasn't being written from the left, it wouldn't be the story. I want the story to 100% serve Picard, not agenda.

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Also, welcome back, man! Been far too fvcking long without you around.
Thanks, brah!

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Originally Posted by ZariusTwo (Post 1807357)
Most of Hollywood no longer goes about it tastefully or subtly, which is the main problem. It's almost always in-your-face and comes with a sense of smug superiority as well as an arrogant condemnation of people who don't agree with their world view.

Yeah, this.

CylonsKlingonsDaleksOhMy 05-24-2019 01:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Andrew NDB (Post 1807358)
Oh, I don't doubt it makes sense. It's just... you just know that if there wasn't this big debate going on right now and if this story wasn't being written from the left, it wouldn't be the story. I want the story to 100% serve Picard, not agenda.

I get that, but I don't think we would get Patrick Stewart back in the role of Picard for anything else. At this point in his career, I don't think he does anything he doesn't want to do. Which means he had to want to do this. And I don't see him going back to Star Trek just for "eh, why not? Could be fun." It has to be something he believes in.

For better or worse, given Stewart's belief in this project, I think it will turn out well.

And at the very least, it can make some sort of decent story out of the bull$hit that was JJ Abrams casually wiping out an entire government and race just for two minutes worth of backstory in a bull$hit reboot prequel.


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