Splinter and turtles new origins *spoilers*
 

So, we now know splinter and the turtles were created by Baron Draxum from mutating Lou Jitsu and four baby turtles. This is quite a change from the traditional origin, but still far better than learning martial arts from a book.

It wouldn't surprise me if Lou Jitsu is just the character Hamato Yoshi plays in a series of martial arts movies. Still, I actually do like we have Splinter getting his martial arts skills from a source other than a modern ninja clan. though I guess it means the Yoshi-Saki backstory might not exist in this universe. Though we may be getting a supernatural-based shredder in this universe, if the two foot mystics are any indication.

What did everyone else think?

I think the writers try to come up with something new, and not even have any Shredder at all.

Nah they did state in interviews hinted at classic characters appearing and we got a version of stockman called stockboi and we got the purple dragons.

Those aren't Shredder.

I think they will show shredder and other characters eventually it's just a master of time we just need to wait until later episodes of season 2

Do you believe we will get Krang, Triceratons or Utroms too?

Eventually interviews did hinted at classic characters returning like they mentioned Casey jones as one of their favorites so just be paicent.

I can see the Triceratons or Krang showing up in future seasons.

As for the Shredder, not every version needs to include him. At least not right off the bat, he could still be a presence that is hinted at and slowly revealed as things progress because he is actually more intimidating as a character when we don't see him on screen.

Currently, we do have hints the Shredder is coming due to the appearances of the Foot Clan. The Turtles in this version aren't taking these guys seriously. They just think they are a couple of weird guys who steal stuff, such as the first appearance they were stealing paper to make an army of origami warriors. The next appearance the Turtles think they are just stealing a ring when in reality they were taking the gauntlet the ring was placed on. Then in "Stuck on You" They were stealing another gauntlet, again the Turtles don't think anything of it. Though this is one of the first times they are relatively thwarted since Origami Tsunami.

Well Shreder is hinted to appear in later seasons eventually.

Stop pretending has a serious story worth caring about. Just roll with it. This isn't the 2K3 or 2012 show

What's your problem with people enjoying and caring about Rise?

I don't mind the change, I do prefer the "by chance" origin of the ooze falling but this is decent and better than say the PD origin that also changed things up. I think we all expected Draxum to be involved since the synopsis of him creating mutants before the show aired so it isn't a big shock that he was involved either.

I do love the Battle Nexus being mentioned, I can't believe that 2012 ignored such a cool concept in favor of episodes of zombies and a crapload of horror themed episodes. I hope we eventually see the Battle Nexus in Rise.

Not really a problem, but I mean enjoy the show for what it is. Insane silliness. Don't try so hard to look for something that isn't there, ya know?

It just sounds kinda like, well this show isn't as deep as 2K3 and 2012.... let's make up our own personal headcanon to make it just as deep!!

The Foot Clan is planning to bring back their master, that's what I think after seeing the two of them recollecting parts of an armor that looked like bad news. And now they are recruiting the Baron Draxxum; they need him as a scientist and acknowledged of the mystical.

And now, Splinter:
What he hides in many masks?
Before he was LouJitsu he was Hamato Yoshi, but why hiding under that identity? Because he was a fugitive of the Foot Clan. If more classic characters are appearing, I hope we could get Tang Shen; I think she would be involved as part of the triangle love between them and Oroku Saki... That ended in tragedy. Now, he also hides that he was the famous martial arts actor from the rest of the worl and from his family, because he is aware that the new main villain would try to destroy the new life he has and corrupt his children.

Nah it's just your headcannon and I seen the interviews and behind the scenes so classic characters show up eventually.

Classic characters showing up is one thing but how recognisable will they actually be?

Full disclosure; I'm not watching the show but if Baxter has shown up as a child called Stockboy what is the betting that Shredder is showing up as a..oh I dunno a wacky mutant cyborg called 'Shredman' or something?

Even if he is basically the Shredder unless he has a rivalry with Splinter is he really the Shredder?

The problem with slow-burn approach is it assume we're in for a long haul with this show. I realise that Nickelodeon is committed to this iteration as it has toys to sell but just is not connecting with fans and seemingly not with kids either. It's basically just a placeholder until the next version comes along. It might not the chance for Shredder or other classic characters to appear.

Nah still your opinion and you don't have evidence either.

Evidence of what exactly?

They have already drastically altered some primary TMNT concepts and characters. I don't think it's unreasonable to suggest that if/when Shredder shows up he will be significantly altered also.

The faith some fans have that somehow, someway that despite all this the whole thing will start to make sense and will resemble the classic TMNT reminds of the fans who really, really believed that the Platinum Dunes sequel would reveal Splinter didn't really learn ninjitsu from a book and that he and the turtles would be reincarnated Hamato Yoshi and his sons like in IDW or that prior to being in the lab Splinter belonged to Hamato Yoshi. Didn't happen.

It's unlikely to happen here either.

I kinda figured that much.

i already has been mutant in 2012 and also in movies so being mutant again is not something new. still will be enemies will splinter like we always are before he mutates into rat dont worry!

Everyone is hoping Shredder coming in hopfully brings in the reset button so we can go back to the turtles stopping shredder, krang, bebop and rocksteady from stealing energy for the technodrome, which just kinda proves the fans of the show don't like the show as it is.

The thing is... I actually liked the basic premise of the show; the turtles and April facing mutants, with an underground mystical city to explore, and no shredder or foot clan in sight for the origin. Splinter is Lou Jitsu instead of Hamato Yoshi? GREAT! The foot's usage in this series seems to indicate Shredder is a mystical being the two foot soldiers are trying to revive, so we will get a mystical shredder, with no past connection to the TMNT.

The problem is, the execution is not good. The tone is just a little too wacky and silly, instead of mutants like leatherhead, slash, Groundchuck, Dirtbag, etc., we get a worm, a repo/chop shop mantis, a goofy hippo, and other new villains that don't seem interesting enough to become attached to. Why not more of a mix of old and new villains?

I dunno, it's not very good, but I prefer it more than another recycled 'tmnt vs shredder, mutants, and aliens' plot for the millionth time. :ohwell:

I'm positive this whole show is just a palate cleanse until the next time they semi-seriously approach a new iteration, with the same level of "serious" as the 2012 series.

Do you only post in role play?

Hmm... too respond would require breaking character. Curious if it will happen. lol

I don't think I've ever seen a post by him that wasn't RP...

Well don't think about it too much.

I have seen only a couple (one in reply to me once) but outside of TMNT discussion.

I still read that post as though you were talking like Shredder dude:P

Though I enjoy the show and appreciate all the new villain designs, it struck me as being this generation's "Next Mutation" experiment, which I think had the unintended result of accomplishing that "palette cleanse" of all 1990s-isms about the franchise.