Let's compare Raphael's Girlfriends of all the series.
 

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Ah Raphael, the "Hit first, ask questions later" part of the team, he's rough, impulsive and pretty much a lone wolf.

But that doesn't mean he's immune to the typical teenage Boy's hormones and the attraction to the other gender. And in the franchise there have been a couple of girls who found out that Raph has a soft, caring side too.
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First up, from the Archie comics: Umeko or to use the name everybody knows her by: Ninjara
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Ninjara showing Michelangelo that it pays NOT to make fun of her name or to imply that her name is "Cute"
Ninjara was the anthropomorphic Fox assistant of the dog man Chien Khan in Japan but switched sides and fought alongside the Turtles to defeat him. She traveled with the Turtles to New York city where she and Raph began an intimate relationship and becoming the team's fifth member in the process. But when she returned to Japan on request of her brother, the relationship soured and she and Raph broke up with a final kiss.
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Apparently Raph had good fate on his side because the next one also came from the Archie comics. Mezcaal
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Mezcaal is a Coyote woman who is a tough cookie, working as a bartender and follows Raph's mantra of "Hit first, ask questions later." to a T, she appears in the five part "Dreamland" which shows us a future version of Raph happily married to her. We don't see that much of her afterwards but it's pretty safe to say that Raphael met his match.

And having hinted the title, Number three is the one you guys will probably go for as soon as somebody says "Raphael's girlfriend"
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Well, what would a list like this one be without Mona Lisa? Mona Lisa is the only one where Kevin Eastman and Peter Laird had a say in when she was created. As in the fact that while they liked the idea of Raph getting a Girlfriend, they vetoed the idea of her being a Girl turtle, thus Mona Lisa became a lizard. She's also the only one who was human before being mutated. The funny thing is that Mona Lisa got such a big following despite the fact that she only appeared in one episode.
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Mona Lisa in a Japanese official TMNT magazine.

Now if what I put down on Ninjara and Mezcaal would suggest that the comic book Raphael has a thing for Fox and Wolf girls, our next entry confirms it. Alopex of the IDW series.
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Different from Mona Lisa, Alopex didn't start off a human who was mutated, she started off an Arctic Fox who was experimented upon by Foot Clan scientists. Having nowhere to go after her mutation Alopex came along with Shredder to New York where she was Karai's right hand woman. It was there where she met Raphael and later the other turtles and although they started off as enemies, they developed a healthy respect for the other. But after finding out that Shredder had killed her entire family she rebelled and hitched a ride along with the Turtles to Northampton where she and Raph found out that they actually really liked each other a lot. When she fled New York to rid herself of the influence of the evil sorceress Kitsune and went to Alaska, Raphael used the Foot Clan's resources to travel after her and admitting to Nobody who traveled with him that he loves Alopex and why.
A very sweet dialogue of Raph
Of all of them, this could probably be the most long lasting.

Our final entry is the only one who turns the roles around: Y'Gythba, aka Mona Lisa of the 2012 series.
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When this Mona Lisa appeared for the first time during the fourth season of the 2012 series fans were rejoicing, Mona Lisa was back and from all appearances, this one would be around far longer than the original eighties Mona Lisa. Lieutenant Y'Gythba of the Salamandrian army, like all the others, is one tough cookie who had no issues with using her fists to make a point come across. Her relationship with Raph has been rocky, she even betrayed him to get a perk from Lord Dregg. But the most striking fact about her is that she turns the roles around, she is pretty much the man in their relationship and Raph is all too happy to fall into the woman role here.
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So let's discuss them.

Raphael had the most love interests than his brothers dang. Leonardo had lotus blossom,rapture,and Karai. Miley had trib,renet,kala,and Serilius. Donatello is the only one with no love interest in the franchise.

Are you sure?
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Oh right forgot about that....

Raphael and Ninjara was the best.

Always been funny to me that they all seem to have a type they go for. And for Raph, that's definitely fox/canine-like and lizard ladies. lol Interesting mix, but to each their own.

Don't forget Donnie was also a little smitten with that blue(?) skinned alien woman in other versions... Can't think of the name off the top of my head, think it started with, I want to say a... J? Jhanna! Which is funny as he seems to go for the humanoid alien sort then. And note, 2012 April is herself part alien! lol

(And of course Leo with his attraction to tough human ladies; and Mikey with his aliens, plus Renet who while human is still a bit otherworldly in her own right.)

Also Leo seems to have a thing with human women with black hair and Mickey also fell in love with three aliens and one human go figure

Yup, that part too. Sorry, updated my post before seeing yours, no attempt to swipe those points from ya.


It's funny that the two that are calmer and a little more reserved in personality lean toward humans or human-like aliens. While the other two that are bit more out there and a little more extroverted seem to learn more toward aliens and fellow mutants that are less humanoid. (With the exception of Renet, though she's not your typical human either and a bit "alien" in a sense.)

well yeah Leonardo being into human women is kinda like revere bestiality but since he is a mutant humanoid i guess it's okay.

I figure if I wait long enough, JakeSully will reveal himself in this thread.

Anybody want to lay bets on this one?

Not really as both parties are sentient consenting beings.

Fair enough still funny that Leo prefers tough human women brutnettes while Mikey prefers human like aliens.

Sidestepping the normal human perception that humans are somehow different and special, were it not for the fact that all parties are sentient and consenting individuals, all 'dem Turtles are very guilty of that "bestiality"/inter-species interests... lol Can't really blame them though, you take what you can get if your own sort are so rare in the world. But at least in their world there are many other people, even if not of the Turtle variety.


edit: In reality, if they were attracted to regular turtles THAT would oddly enough be an actual case of bestiality and animal abuse on their part. Since they, as sentient beings, are people and regular little turtles are not and can not consent. That would be far more morally wrong of them than one of them clicking with a human that accepted him for who he is.

I read the Archie comic a lot as a kid, so Ninjara's always my pick.

Can the original Mona Lisa be considered a mutant (by TMNT-standard)? She was transformed following an accident when Filch's reactor exploded.

Whereas I'd go with Pimiko, who if Raph has to hang around with a lady and have sexual tension, the literal (and original) daughter of Oroku Saki would be my pick.

But to go with the available options, Mona Lisa because that was an episode I always rented from Blockbuster, because I was never able to find the VHS for sale and I owned a ton of them. :tlol:

I was always under the impression that she was. Maybe through slightly different means, but not really any less of one than Splinter and the Turtles.

I really didn't like the Image book, so there ya go. :lol:

The Fred Wolf version of Mona Lisa was great. Maybe it was the design that added to it but Rob Paulsen and Pat Musick had great chemistry.

He also seemed to like Irma in the Fred Wolf cartoon.

I think we all probably wanted to see what Irma had goin' on under that sweater and those clunky shoes.

Those "librarian-hot" types always end being into the craziest, freakiest sh*t. Like yeah, April's hotter but... I'unno man. I think Irma might be more "fun". Especially tipsy. :tgrin:

I will second that. There were SEVERAL episodes where Don could have asked April or someone else to run favors for him (Donatello's Degree, Invasion of the Turtle Snatchers, etc) or hang out with, but seemed to pick Irma very frequently. Maybe because she was more of a fellow nerd than most, plus older and more mature than the typical picks of his brothers (barring Lotus and Radical, maybe).

Plus, there WAS that episode where she and April were vacationing in Florida- I think it was Leatherhead Terror of the Swamp, where Irma wore a bathing suit, plus that superheroine outfit she wore once or twice, so there's that.

My headcanon is that they once got drunk together playing Magic: The Gathering, and "stuff happened". And they just pretend it didn't and silently agree to never mention it, while still trying to "subconsciously" create a scenario in which it may one day happen again.

In my head, half of all the cartoon characters that ever existed spend most of their offscreen time banging the other half. Because when you've been watching this stuff for almost 40 goddamn years you start having to make your own "fun" after a while. :tgrin:

Yes there was. Mmm. Mmm mmm MMM.

Mmm.

PERV!!! Kidding (not really). But yeah, I can go along with that. But probably more like a late night in the lab where she was helping him with something, they were SUPER close for an extended period, and.... Stuff happened. And they liked it. So now they are friends with bennies....

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Well, in her man crazy behavior she did seem to get open minded enough after a while to the point when Donnie says "Irma, I need you" and she starts swooning before he could tell her to calm down, it's just to help pick up a pizza.

Just rewatched that one the other day. And I think it was the very next ep where three of them are tricked with a love potion and fall in love with her? But it's kinda odd that after the hints of her being open to accept a Turtle's interest she's upset when she found our her "three sailors" where three of the Turtles. But I just now realized that the only one not tricked with the potion was DONNIE. Maybe the disappointment wasn't really for being Turtles but rather which one it wasn't. :tlol:

Seasons 3–5 would usually play on Donatello and Irma.

Well, there's this episode with Leatherhead and the Punk Frogs, which shows Irma in a one piece swimsuit...
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Yeah, for real. Those episodes came on a lot, and that sh*t always jumped out at me. Irma's reply was definitely in her "bedroom voice". :lol: And the disappointment when it was "just" over a pizza? That girl is peeeeeeeeent UP, man.

When she's at her desk at work, I imagine she must be chewing her pen, twirling her hair with her finger, AND constantly crossing and uncrossing her legs, simultaneously. :lol: Because we all know what each of those things in and of itself are indicative of, and let's face it... she's a rather desperate woman, which means it's been a while.

Poor kid.

That be the one. :trazz:

Out of context, that seriously looks like the establishing shot of the worst porno movie ever, doesn't it?

"Well ladies... if you don't have enough money, there's ANOTHER way you can 'pay' for this pizza..."

"What pizza? You didn't even BRING the pizza!"

"...We spent all our budget on lube and French ticklers, okay? Just get naked, Donnie says we can only afford to rent the camera until 6pm or they'll charge us a whole extra day..." :lol::lol::lol:

:lol:

Leo, I really expected better!

Well, Leo Leo, not you Leo. You I've come to expect it of. :tlol:

:o:o:o:lol::lol::lol: "Context! CONTEXT!!!" :lol:

Also: Thanks, Indi. I please to aim. :tgrin:

That was exactly what I was thinking, LOL! So the love potion was right after the one he said "I need you" in? Huh, I hadn't even realized that. But suddenly a LOT of things in those two episodes make more sense now. And it also gives me some ideas for me fics.... As an aside, I actually did reference that episode in Love Is Shell, with Mikey being the one behind the gift of the puppy. Not only does he admit to it, he bribes her with a chocolate soufflet to keep quiet about his plans to take off with his gf in secret for a day. And there are several scenes where the idea of matchmaking her and Donnie pop up. For the reasons already mentioned. But the Donatello's Degree episode is also brought up several times, specifically due to her involvement and the confusion over his name. So....

Donatello strikes me as the quiet type, and for some reason she seemed to hang with him more than any of the others. His willingness to hang out with her alone might have been less than incidental.


Yup that was exactly the one I was thinking of!

Sky Turtles
 

Donatello and Irma also had some lines in Sky Turtles.

There was also that Maltese Hampster episode where all the Turtles and Splinter are abducted by some mobsters who worked for the Shredder.

Donatello is told to escape and then is supposedly crushed by falling building facade. He manages to crawl out of the rubble once the mobsters drive off with Leo and Splinter and limps away.

Then the next scene has Irma on the phone when we hear a loud thud off screen and Irma responds by saying "You'll have to excuse me, it sounds like someone just passed out in front of my desk." She then leaves the desk finds a seriously wounded Donatello. Her reaction to finding Donatello wasn't really lusty or suggestive as some other examples, but she is the sort of person who wishes men would just pass out in exaltation at the sight of her

Invasion of the Turtles Snatchers
 

They also went out in Invasion of the Turtles Snatchers, and Irma reacted.

Speaking of Donatello and Irma... That ep with April and Irma in swimsuits just so happened to be one of a couple I watched last night via the disc I'm currently up to so far.

AND... going by an initial farther shot and the voice, that is supposed to be DONNIE in that shot. :lol: Color error my ass... he just stole one of Leo's masks to hide that it was him that was eager to go talk to them right that moment.

Don and Irma have loads of moments in Donatello's Degree. Irma even likes using Donny's name as a pseudonym and considers keeping it afterwards.

That's probably my favourite Irma/Donatello moment ever and the reason I started to 'ship them in the first place. It showed more of a serious side to Irma and she literally rushed off to find a way of tending to his injuries. I said to Donny, "that babe's a keeper".

I'm actually stunned that there is a thread about shipping on this forum. I thought old people hated shipping.

Old?? *hmph* (Nah, just a bunch of big kids, the exterior is just a little more worn out for some than others. :))

Well, there's definitely one major difference. Doesn't come up much around here, but when it does it tends to be things that are either actually canon (such as Raph and his various girlfriends), and personally I don't label that as "shipping" if it's actually legit, or based on character interactions that could at least hint at something if looked at from the right angle (like '87 Donnie and Irma). And mainly just for entertainment value. All the Tumblr (and elsewhere) shipping of characters with no actual canon interest in each other or any reason to feel that way, and taking a lot more seriously than this, is kind of its own category.

Yeah, that's called CRACK shipping, lol!

Surprised no one at the resort asked why someone wearing a coat and a hat is talking to two women in their 20s. Then again they've probably been visited at least once by Lt Columbo so... :lol::lol: