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Andrew NDB 04-02-2019 03:21 PM

Movies you thought that were going to be awesome but ended up being AWFUL
 
Let's see...

"Star Wars: The Force Awakens." DEEPLY disappointed. I'd dreamed about a sequel trilogy for decades and this is what they do? An ANH remake? Inexcusable.

I was disappointed with Prometheus but not as much as I was devastated by "Alien: Covenant." I thought Ridley would have been able to lick his wounds after Prometheus and right the ship instead of doubling down on everything that was BAD in Prometheus.

"The Predator." Just sad. Pretty horrible, largely the fault of the studio forcing 1/3 of the movie to be reshot. I don't even know if we can blame Shane Black. The man hasn't said even one word about the movie since it came out. After watching "Alien: Covenant" snuff out the Alien franchise I really was hoping this would be a win. It wasn't.

"Iron Man 3." This one I do blame Shane Black for, for the most part. BAD movie that I was looking forward to seeing, following the same bad choices in Iron Man 2. I still want the movie that was promised in this trailer, not some "subvert your expectations" Iron Man 2 do-over:



"Matrix Reloaded." BAD! Like between "Revolutions" and "Reloaded" they had about one movie's worth of anything, barely, so this one didn't feel like much of anything. Whole characters and storylines end up being pointless.

"Machete Kills." First one was awesome until it maybe got a little too crazy at the end. This sequel was BAD, through and through.

"Austin Powers 3: Goldmember." I enjoyed part 1 and REALLY enjoyed part 2, so I was pretty shocked to see how HORRID this was. Every joke fell flat to me, every bit of humor forced.

"Neverending Story 2." I swore by part 1 and couldn't wait to see part 2. Ghastly!

"Lawnmower Man 2." Same story! Super looking forward to part 2, super aghast at how bad and far off the mark they could get. It's pretty amazing, really.

"Highlander: The Source. To say I was expecting it to be "awesome" might not be true, but I was at least expecting something... decent. Or at least passable. Nope, what they delivered was a straight-up cinematic throat-slice.

CylonsKlingonsDaleksOhMy 04-02-2019 03:31 PM

Definitely agree with you on Iron Man 3. I can't think of another movie that I was that hyped for and that disappointed by. That's when I learned "huh, awesome trailers don't automatically equal awesome movie, even if the previous movies were decent."

Andrew NDB 04-02-2019 03:34 PM

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Originally Posted by CylonsKlingonsDaleksOhMy (Post 1801932)
Definitely agree with you on Iron Man 3. I can't think of another movie that I was that hyped for and that disappointed by. That's when I learned "huh, awesome trailers don't automatically equal awesome movie, even if the previous movies were decent."

Yeah, I'd never encountered that level of trickery and deception in marketing until then, or since.

I mean, you can point to things like Marvel deceptively inserting Hulk into the "Avengers: Infinity War" trailer... but the final movie is still the movie I was expecting. Iron Man 3, I was expecting literally a whole other movie.

Autbot_Benz 04-02-2019 03:36 PM

Justice League. Trailers looked so good but final product was Ass.

The Dark Knight Rises looked good but Movie was just bland and really boring. Also Bane's voice was really silly.

CylonsKlingonsDaleksOhMy 04-02-2019 03:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Andrew NDB (Post 1801933)
Yeah, I'd never encountered that level of trickery and deception in marketing until then, or since.

I mean, you can point to things like Marvel deceptively inserting Hulk into the "Avengers: Infinity War" trailer... but the final movie is still the movie I was expecting. Iron Man 3, I was expecting literally a whole other movie.

Exactly! It still baffles me that so many people claim to like that movie.

snake 04-02-2019 03:51 PM

Iron Man 3 is a huge one, but my biggest are probably the Disney Star Wars Sequels. Awful, awful sh*t.

Redeemer 04-02-2019 03:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Autbot_Benz (Post 1801934)

The Dark Knight Rises looked good but Movie was just bland and really boring. Also Bane's voice was really silly.

Those are fighting words!!!!!!!

:x:x:x:x

:lol:

Andrew NDB 04-02-2019 03:58 PM

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Originally Posted by snake (Post 1801938)
Iron Man 3 is a huge one, but my biggest are probably the Disney Star Wars Sequels. Awful, awful sh*t.

But expectations were pretty well killed with TFA, weren't they? Were a lot of people walking into TLJ, RO, or Solo after that honestly expecting an "awesome" movie?

CyberCubed 04-02-2019 04:09 PM

I don't know, a lot of movies than turned out to be bad/lackluster I kinda had a feeling they wouldn't be good before they released so I can't say I was ever surprised by how bad a movie turned out. Like of course when a new movie is announced everyone has high hopes and wants it to be good, but as we get along to trailers and then interviews and casting and everything, it becomes obvious how a movie is going to go.

Prowler 04-02-2019 04:14 PM

Not that I thought it was going to be awesome exactly, but...

Lost in translation disappointed me severely. It's a loved movie by a lot of people, therefore I was expecting it to be at least a solid movie, but it bored me to death. Ok, ScarJo is hot and Bill Murray is awesome, but the movie just bored me. Not saying it was AWFUL, but it wasn't that good, imo.

CylonsKlingonsDaleksOhMy 04-02-2019 04:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Redeemer (Post 1801939)
Those are fighting words!!!!!!!

:x:x:x:x

:lol:

I don't even bother defending Dark Knight Rises anymore. It was good enough for me. If people wanna prefer Batman 89 or "I'mma fvcking KILL this Kryptonian" Batman from BvS, be my guest. :tlol:

neatoman 04-02-2019 04:33 PM

Oh, this is hard. There are examples of movies thought were going to be bad but ended up being worse than I expected, there are also movies I though were going to be good but just kind of felt meh. It has happened, I just don't think my reaction have been that negative. I'll just list off some examples, not necessarily "awful" but certianly less than I expected.
  • Spider-Man 1977, This is probably the closest to a movie being way worse than I thought it would be. I thought it was going to try and get around the budget in some clever way but the only thing that can ever be called exciting is a fight scene with some kendo guys, the plot is the most boring thing ever. It's also the only Spider-Man adaptation I know of that skips uncle Ben, Pete just becomes Spider-Man right after getting his powers. I know some might not think it's "technically" a movie given that it was made for TV, but not me.
  • Speaking of Spider-Man, Amazing 2. Nobody likes Amazing 2, not that the first was good but still.
  • X-Men Origins Wolverine, really more of a "thought it was going to be a bit over mediocre" rather than "good" but yeah. Worst movie in the franchise, there's no way Dark Phoenix can be worse (I hope).
  • All the Disney era Star Wars movies. I know Last Jedi gets the most and I get why, it just bothers me the least because I see that it intentionally trolls people and it's so far the only one that does something other than feed us member berries (though it still does that).
  • Alita was a lot more bizarrely structured than I expected based on people's reaction, so I went ahead and watched the anime. I'm honestly surprised the anime has a fanbase, it's so obviously unfinished and what little was produced is such an empty pile of nothing. Is this a rare example of a manga being more popular than it's anime adaptation? That's pretty much the only reason I can think of for there being a fanbase.
  • I recently rewatched Aladdin, it's actually worse than I remember. It has a breakneck pace and is full of CGI that meshes far worse with the traditional animation than in the Great Mouse Detective, six years prior. It's not "bad" but it probably is much worse than what people remember.
  • Man of Steel seemed like it was going to be a fairly refreshing take on Superman but it was just... depressing to watch.
  • Most of the Dragon Ball movies are not good. I thought they were going to be better than I thought but between pretending they can somehow fit into the canon and refusing to allow character development, they really suck. The only ones I can honestly reccommend are Path to Power, Battle of Gods, Resurrection F, Super Broly and maybe Wrath of the Dragon. Other than that, they're a curiosity for fans, at best.
  • Akira is probably the best example of a praised movie to have an almost incomprehensive story. It makes sense after you read the manga and realise how compressed it is and the animation is still great, it's just that it's completely bonkers otherwise.

Wesley 04-02-2019 04:35 PM

Avengers: Age of Ultron. Didn’t like it at all. I might change my mind on a subsequent rewatch, though.

neatoman 04-02-2019 04:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Wesley (Post 1801946)
Avengers: Age of Ultron. Didn’t like it at all. I might change my mind on a subsequent rewatch, though.

Yeah that kinda sucked too.

Andrew NDB 04-02-2019 04:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Wesley (Post 1801946)
Avengers: Age of Ultron. Didn’t like it at all. I might change my mind on a subsequent rewatch, though.

It was oh-kay... definitely a misfire in terms of expectations, though, but I certainly didn't watch it and go, "Man, that sucked!" remotely.

Original TMNT Cartoon Fan 04-02-2019 04:46 PM

Interstellar
 
Interstellar. I thought it was going to be about the first interstellar flight from Earth to a distant planet and the adventures there (only), and no stupid black hole time travel.

Andrew NDB 04-02-2019 05:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Original TMNT Cartoon Fan (Post 1801949)
I thought it was going to be about the first interstellar flight from Earth to a distant planet

It was about that. You even got 3 distant planets for the price of 1.

Leo656 04-02-2019 05:30 PM

I didn't think "The Last Jedi" would be GREAT but I definitely didn't expect it to raise my blood pressure anywhere near as bad as it did.

Likewise, I didn't think "Street Fighter: Legend of Chun-Li" would be fantastic, but I thought that mathematically it HAD to be better than the Van Damme movie. Instead, not only did it make the Van Damme movie look like a masterpiece, it turned out to be one of the all-time worst... THINGS that I've ever seen, rivalled only by "Ghostbusters: Answer The Call".

This one is tough because I generally keep my expectations in the middle.

Original TMNT Cartoon Fan 04-02-2019 05:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Andrew NDB (Post 1801954)
It was about that. You even got 3 distant planets.

It should stay there.

Redeemer 04-02-2019 05:51 PM

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Originally Posted by CylonsKlingonsDaleksOhMy (Post 1801944)
I don't even bother defending Dark Knight Rises anymore. It was good enough for me. If people wanna prefer Batman 89 or "I'mma fvcking KILL this Kryptonian" Batman from BvS, be my guest. :tlol:

Where there is ignorance I will be there to fight it!!!! :lol:
I love the movie, but I think most people just wanted Dark Knight 2, unfortunately Heath Ledger......:cry:........Yeah......

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Originally Posted by Wesley (Post 1801946)
Avengers: Age of Ultron. Didn’t like it at all. I might change my mind on a subsequent rewatch, though.

I had such high hopes for that movie and it was the biggest let down ever....... It did make me enjoy infinity war that much more though.

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Originally Posted by neatoman (Post 1801945)
[*]Speaking of Spider-Man, Amazing 2. Nobody likes Amazing 2, not that the first was good but still.[/LIST]

If this movie is on your list, then Sam Rami's **** master piece "Spider-man 3" needs to be at the top. :lol: That movie is the most garbage super-movie I have ever seen.

I actually like Amazing Spider-man 2. I wish they didn't cut the ending out with Peter meeting his dad. The Gwen Stacey death scene is the best movie scene of any Spider-man movie. That movie does not deserve the hate it gets, it it a an amazing movie? No, but I believe that movie is far superior than Spider-man 3, its about on par with the original Spider-man movie.

Leo656 04-02-2019 08:26 PM

I've often said that somewhere in between the first Raimi film and the first "Amazing" film is the "perfect" Spider-Man movie. I think "Amazing" is fine, its biggest sin is merely coming out "too soon" after the previous trilogy, but in a vacuum it's Perfectly Fine. Except for the pointless origin changes, but again, "too soon" so they had no choice. I didn't like the changes but they were forced upon them by "Corporate", so I mostly forgive them.

Amazing 2 had some good moments in what was ultimately a very bloated and meandering affair with far too many competing subplots, each of which could have been its own film. Far from the worst CBM I've ever seen, and not as bad as its reputation, but it definitely needed to reign in some of those creative choices. Electro, for example, was... creative, but ultimately terrible. But the film does have its moments.

oldmanwinters 04-02-2019 08:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Leo656 (Post 1801964)
Likewise, I didn't think "Street Fighter: Legend of Chun-Li" would be fantastic, but I thought that mathematically it HAD to be better than the Van Damme movie. Instead, not only did it make the Van Damme movie look like a masterpiece, it turned out to be one of the all-time worst... THINGS that I've ever seen, rivalled only by "Ghostbusters: Answer The Call".

Hoo-yeah, I picked that Chun-Li feature up on DVD at a pawn shop, and hoped to be pleasantly entertained. But things got so weird in that movie.

Leo656 04-02-2019 09:17 PM

I just... I want something bad to happen to every single person involved in it. They deserve it.

IT'S SO F*CKING TERRIBLE!!!

Like HOW the... I mean who could possibly... WHY, would anyone.... how could anyone on this EARTH even... just... just... COME ON!!! WHAT THE F*CK?!?!?

Every single review of that goddamn movie should just be a close-up shot of someone giving the finger. Words cannot describe.

drgon78 04-02-2019 09:32 PM

Iron Man 3, so disappointing.

The Matrix sequels, so horrible.

Every Stars movie made after the original trilogy.

Alien 3, killed the franchise, never recovered.

Mortal Kombat 2.

Leo656 04-02-2019 09:50 PM

I used to totally hate "Mortal Kombat: Annihilation".

...Then I saw "Legend of Chun-Li" and realized that a whole other level of "Suck" existed far beneath and beyond anything I'd ever dreamed of. Turns out the barrel had a false bottom! "There's MORE garbage, way down here!"

MK:A is terrible. But oh, man. It's at least "expectantly terrible". Possibly even "Understandably terrible".

I think "Chun-Li" is some sort of suicide cult's Doomsday Weapon. "We need to trick more people into committing mass suicide." "Have you tried giving 'em THIS?" It's the only thing that makes any sense.

sdp 04-02-2019 10:09 PM

Star Wars 7, Matrix Revolutions, Iron Man 3

All 3 were franchise killers for me.

CylonsKlingonsDaleksOhMy 04-02-2019 10:34 PM

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Originally Posted by sdp (Post 1802010)
Star Wars 7, Matrix Revolutions, Iron Man 3

All 3 were franchise killers for me.

But does Iron Man 3 even count as a franchise killer when they stopped at three?

Same for Revolutions?

Or do you mean it retroactively made the previous movies worse just by existing? :tlol:

sdp 04-02-2019 10:57 PM

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Originally Posted by CylonsKlingonsDaleksOhMy (Post 1802011)
But does Iron Man 3 even count as a franchise killer when they stopped at three?

Same for Revolutions?

Or do you mean it retroactively made the previous movies worse just by existing? :tlol:

I mean they killed my interest in the properties. I was a huge fan of Star Wars, The Matrix and the MCU and after those movies I just didn't care.

I'm sure i'll watch and enjoy the MCU one day but I stopped going to the movie theater after Iron Man 3. I was able to revive my interest of the Matrix a few years ago when watching the original film again, but yeah the third movie kills it, the second one can be salvaged. Star Wars I wanted an Episode VII since I was a kid and before the prequels existed and we got a ****ing remake, that one hurt the most I think, I'm not sure if that one can ever be salvaged, I'll always love the OT.

Andrew NDB 04-02-2019 11:41 PM

Aw, really? I'd take Spider-Man 3 over either of the "Amazing" ones by far. The good parts in 3 are so much more better and earned than anything in either of those, no matter how much was rushed or truncated in 3.

And really? Matrix Revolutions is worse than Reloaded? How? Stuff actually happens in that. Nothing happens in Reloaded.

sdp 04-02-2019 11:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Andrew NDB (Post 1802017)
And really? Matrix Revolutions is worse than Reloaded? How? Stuff actually happens in that. Nothing happens in Reloaded.

Reloaded by itself is underwhelming but didn't disappoint too much, it did a lot of world building, introduced cool characters and set up a huge mystery and cliffhanger. It wasn't a very strong movie but it set up a third movie that had a lot to answer to make up for Reloaded. Revolutions was just a generic humans vs machine movie fort he most part, all the world building in Reloaded was for the most part ignored and gave unsatisfying answers to the mysteries. Revolutions retroactively made reloaded worse since you knew all that happened there was for nothing.

Wildcat 04-03-2019 12:30 AM

I really don’t know. I’ve seen some really bad movies but typically they’re not mainstream or even Highend DTV. I’m talking those really low budget ones with very cheap production and unintentionally funny acting.

I genuinely want to know why those people make them when they have nowhere near the resources for it. Some have interesting ideas but end up ridiculous.

One reason why I hate when people trash mainstream movies. Even though they’re not always great they’re at least passable, mostly. People take decent acting and proper production values for granted.

Legend of Chun-Li is not a good movie but it’s watchable once because it was “made properly”. If that makes sense. Plus Kristin Kreuk :D Don’t blame her for it being a dumb movie. A lot of actors have made dumb movies.

I loved MK:A. Don’t care if I’m in a minority. It’s cheesy but it’s game accurate. I give credit for that.

Leo656 04-03-2019 10:27 AM

MK:A may as well have been called, "Hey look! It's ______!"

Less of a "movie", more a game of "Let's cram in as many two-second cameos for every single game character as we possibly can."

I mean, none of them DO anything, and every single actor would be kicked out of even the most no-budget community theater group... But hey, they got 'em in there, kinda!

It's amazing that an actual (sort of) fan-film web series boasts infinity greater fidelity and craftsmanship than an actual Hollywood production. But then again not really.

neatoman 04-03-2019 10:43 AM

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Originally Posted by Redeemer (Post 1801975)
If this movie is on your list, then Sam Rami's **** master piece "Spider-man 3" needs to be at the top. :lol: That movie is the most garbage super-movie I have ever seen.

I actually like Amazing Spider-man 2. I wish they didn't cut the ending out with Peter meeting his dad. The Gwen Stacey death scene is the best movie scene of any Spider-man movie. That movie does not deserve the hate it gets, it it a an amazing movie? No, but I believe that movie is far superior than Spider-man 3, its about on par with the original Spider-man movie.

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Originally Posted by Andrew NDB (Post 1802017)
Aw, really? I'd take Spider-Man 3 over either of the "Amazing" ones by far. The good parts in 3 are so much more better and earned than anything in either of those, no matter how much was rushed or truncated in 3.

Well Spider-Man 3 has gotten worse for me every time I watched it but there was never any initial "This will be great... Oh no, it sucks!" moment. I was like 14 when that movie came out and back then I still naive enough to not really see the flaws quite as well.

Andrew NDB 04-03-2019 10:50 AM

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Originally Posted by Leo656 (Post 1802044)
MK:A may as well have been called, "Hey look! It's ______!"

Less of a "movie", more a game of "Let's cram in as many two-second cameos for every single game character as we possibly can."

I mean, none of them DO anything, and every single actor would be kicked out of even the most no-budget community theater group... But hey, they got 'em in there, kinda!

It's amazing that an actual (sort of) fan-film web series boasts infinity greater fidelity and craftsmanship than an actual Hollywood production. But then again not really.

MK:A is probably on my top 5 worst films of all time list. Concentrated sh**.

ZariusTwo 04-03-2019 01:00 PM

65% of MCU movies are this for me.

neatoman 04-03-2019 01:35 PM

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Originally Posted by ZariusTwo (Post 1802059)
65% of MCU movies are this for me.

Then stop watching.

Prowler 04-03-2019 07:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Andrew NDB (Post 1802017)
Aw, really? I'd take Spider-Man 3 over either of the "Amazing" ones by far. The good parts in 3 are so much more better and earned than anything in either of those, no matter how much was rushed or truncated in 3.

And really? Matrix Revolutions is worse than Reloaded? How? Stuff actually happens in that. Nothing happens in Reloaded.

I liked the Spider-man movies with Toby Maguire and James Franco when I was a kid tbh. I never watched the 3rd one, though. Supposedly that's the one that gets the most criticism of the trilogy?

Wildcat 04-04-2019 12:53 AM

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Originally Posted by Leo656 (Post 1802044)
MK:A may as well have been called, "Hey look! It's ______!"

Less of a "movie", more a game of "Let's cram in as many two-second cameos for every single game character as we possibly can."

I mean, none of them DO anything, and every single actor would be kicked out of even the most no-budget community theater group... But hey, they got 'em in there, kinda!

It's amazing that an actual (sort of) fan-film web series boasts infinity greater fidelity and craftsmanship than an actual Hollywood production. But then again not really.

Well by then the games had a lot of characters. Some of them were part of Shao Kahn’s gang. It was about him opening the portals and breaking the tournament rules anyway.

They fit ok considering the storyline imo. They got their point across.

Leo656 04-04-2019 01:03 AM

Was "The Point", "In the games, Shao Khan is an invincible bad-ass, and in this movie, he's a Huge Pussy who looks like Dollar-Store Billy Zane?" And why the HELL won't he keep his goddamn mask on?

I think the "point" was, "We can't even afford Christopher Lambert. Christopher Lambert relented to do 'Highlander 2: The Quickening', but couldn't be assed to do THIS movie. Which means this movie probably isn't very good. Because our previous Big Star genuinely thought 'Highlander 2' was a better career move than being in THIS goddamn thing."

If the second MK movie had a more specific "point" - or at least a more easily proven one - I'd like to know what it is.

Wildcat 04-04-2019 01:36 AM

I don’t know the bios for every character but I’m pretty sure it’s not Shao Kahn vs Everybody. Some are actually on his side. The evil ones anyway.

Of course every character gets a specific ending in the games but it don’t how that’d fit in a movie. It’s still quite close to MK3.

Every character could not get a huge role. They’re either there to help the Earth Warriors or stop them.

They pick a fight with each other until they get to Shao Kahn...basically like the tower matches. I don’t know what you want me to say. Sure it’s cheesy and could be done better now.


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