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AlZarkovski 04-17-2019 11:59 PM

TMNT #93 Preview and Discussion
 
This first page is completely unexpected!
First look:


Utrommaniac 04-18-2019 12:27 AM

YOOOOOOOOO HE'S BACK!
https://thumbs.gfycat.com/FlimsyOilyKatydid-small.gif

And the Neutrinos are up to some shady business, I knew they weren't that perfect. And...in perfect parallel to what's going on with the Foot. But is Dask really that old??? It's just a question of what the "oh no" is (probably Ch'rell, though...)

Nice to see that Libby's back up on her feet and that the turtles are doing more of their own stuff.


But the kids are going to get themselves into some serious trouble. I feel it in the earth. I smell it in the air.

bushido 04-18-2019 12:28 AM

You can edit the title. Go to "edit" then "go advanced".

AlZarkovski 04-18-2019 01:18 AM

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Originally Posted by bushido (Post 1803796)
You can edit the title. Go to "edit" then "go advanced".

Oh, thank you!!

Igglet 04-18-2019 04:30 AM

This really has me excited. The Neutrinos being included is a big shocker and I'm all in for it, I'm very interested to see how they're going to be incorporated, and a little concerned that the writers might find it hard to resolve all of these plot threads.

So happy to see so many characters included - Splinter, Jennika, Harold, Libby, Honeycutt and, as I said, the Neutrinos. Before, I'd go an entire chapter hoping one of them would pop up in the next one, but now, they all seem to be an integral part of the plot and that's pretty great. Hope Casey makes an appearance in this issue as well, always loved this version of him.

I can already guess that Raph sassing Leo isn't going to end well. To be fair, the IDW run hasn't had enough Leo vs. Raph fights by TMNT standards, has it now?

Wachter's art is great, I was worried it'd feel like a step-down from Dialynas but it really doesn't, I'm all up for him drawing the rest of City at War. I also absolutely love the way he draws Splinter, especially in that part of the panel where he's ranting about Karai.

The wait for this issue has been killing me but I'm all ready to see what IDW have in store.

ChosenOne 04-18-2019 07:52 AM

Think Honeycutt just noticed whatever it is Null has been preparing for?

Weapons@theready 04-18-2019 12:05 PM

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Originally Posted by ChosenOne (Post 1803813)
Think Honeycutt just noticed whatever it is Null has been preparing for?

I'm wondering if perhaps Maligna is about to come back on the scene

CylonsKlingonsDaleksOhMy 04-18-2019 12:16 PM

Remember how Leatherhead turned up in Vengeance, and then took another 15 issues to actually show up in the storyline proper?

This will probably be the same thing for Maligna, Null, or whoever.

CyberCubed 04-18-2019 03:16 PM

Yeah I instantly assumed Fugitoid was talking about Maligna. Ch'rell/Utroms/Triceratons are still on Earth and he sensed something coming in space, and Null has been shown in contact with something in space the last time she appeared and given their connection in Archie it's probably happening here too. I guess the Neutrino world is going to be attacked by space bugs soon.

CylonsKlingonsDaleksOhMy 04-18-2019 03:18 PM

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Originally Posted by CyberCubed (Post 1803836)
Yeah I instantly assumed Fugitoid was talking about Maligna. Ch'rell/Utroms/Triceratons are still on Earth and he sensed something coming in space, and Null has been shown in contact with something in space the last time she appeared and given their connection in Archie it's probably happening here too. I guess the Neutrino world is going to be attacked by space bugs soon.

Seems like a weird time for Maligna though. Hence my theory.

Future plots gotta tease somewhere, yo. :tlol:

ChosenOne 04-18-2019 03:26 PM

Speaking of Null and Maligna's connection in Archie TMNT, I seriously hope IDW doesn't skimp on Scul and Bean reimagined as more insectoid-looking aliens!

A stag beetle and a mantis shrimp would be the perfect inspiration for a new iteration of those two.

CyberCubed 04-18-2019 04:12 PM

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Originally Posted by CylonsKlingonsDaleksOhMy (Post 1803837)
Seems like a weird time for Maligna though. Hence my theory.

Future plots gotta tease somewhere, yo. :tlol:

Don't worry, we won't see that plotline unfold for another 15-20 issues from now. :lol:

Utrommaniac 04-18-2019 06:39 PM

I'm going to agree that it seems early to have a Maligna story, and the Neutrinos are already dealing with that as it is.


Honeycutt wasn't expecting something, and probably just got news (probably from Ma'riell) that Ch'rell is freed from stasis. And Honeycutt was the first one to be concerned about letting him loose - having been the original to make the call to not release him.

AlZarkovski 04-22-2019 08:48 PM

Full preview here.

CylonsKlingonsDaleksOhMy 04-22-2019 09:00 PM

Antonio Puzorelli, eh? Thanks, Tom. :tgrin:

Utrommaniac 04-22-2019 09:32 PM

Bet that guy though there were no sharks in the bay. His childhood terrors reawakened in his last moments.

daggio 04-22-2019 09:53 PM

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Originally Posted by CylonsKlingonsDaleksOhMy (Post 1804227)
Antonio Puzorelli, eh? Thanks, Tom. :tgrin:

Maybe this means that one of the orphans will be IDWs version of Shadow :lol:

ChosenOne 04-23-2019 06:27 AM

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Originally Posted by Utrommaniac (Post 1804230)
Bet that guy though there were no sharks in the bay. His childhood terrors reawakened in his last moments.

B-but... The Mayor said it was safe! :o :lol:

Igglet 04-23-2019 06:37 AM

The Leo vs. Raph thing didn't go as I expected. They didn't do the TMNT cliche and have them get into a heated argument or briefly start fighting, which is a win in my books. I'm so happy Leo just kind of went "Aw man".

CyberCubed 04-23-2019 03:16 PM

This arc feels like long set-up so far, I guess it's still awhile before we get into the meat of the action.

daggio 04-23-2019 10:20 PM

I haven't looked forward to something this much in a long time. While I'm anxious to see how everything in New York plays out, the whole Dimension X scene, to me, adds a whole new dimension (literally & figuratively) to this arc. If what is happening in Dimension X is not directly connected with events in New York, is it possible a whole different player is gonna be on the field, so to speak?

Utrommaniac 04-24-2019 12:51 AM

https://i.pinimg.com/originals/ae/d9...c6769cd4be.gif

Spoiler:
Talk about "action, not words".
Especially after Jennika getting stabbed after a big ol word dump.

Looked a lot like when Saki stabbed Casey, tbh...echoes of the past leaking through there.


We're probably going to be fed drops at a time of the Dimension X side, but wow. What a way to start City at War.

But the coolest thing of all, WE HAVE A MAP OF TERRITORIES. Not sure what the blue area is, especially since there's no yellow representing mafia/gangs on the map. But it's so cool to see. And will probably change as the story goes along.

Igglet 04-24-2019 09:07 AM

This is a great way for them to start the arc. Huuuuge props to the team. So much good stuff here.

I don't know if it's just my personal taste changing, but I've enjoyed Wachter's art a LOT more than I expected this issue. I couldn't be happier that he's the one doing this arc.

Spoiler:
The issue was actually really intense. I think most of us could've expected Jennika getting stabbed, mostly due to the FCBD preview, but man, it was pulled off really well. And I've just started to like her.

Raph's probably the part of the arc I'm most excited about. I want to see how far he's gonna be pushed, how far he's going to go. I get the feeling that he might join the Purple Dragons for real, even?

I bet you that, at some point, Karai's gonna take over most of the city and the entire territory map will just be painted red (or whatever color she's gonna be) to display how screwed the turtles are.

CylonsKlingonsDaleksOhMy 04-24-2019 10:33 AM

All in all, I liked it. But I'm most excited to finally, FINALLY get a Raph/Hob team-up, which definitely is foreshadowed. BRING IT ON! :tcool:

Spoiler:
I love that Stockman's mayoral campaign is still on the rise. And I guess we're getting April and Casey back together after Jennika's dead. :trolleye:

Karai and her mutants wiping out the mob was pretty great. I'm quite curious to see how the Turtles will fare against Karai's henchmutants in a fight. Bludgeon can't be blinded again, and Koya can't be grounded again, so the old tactics are useless. And, of course, Ocho and the red ninja sword of hatred definitely seem to be driving Karai's vicious and merciless approach.

We've finally got a Turtle Van. Which I'm okay with, because IDW has really held off on gadgets for Donnie. And having Harold and Libby help him design it makes it okay for me. :tsmile:

RIP, Jennika. I won't miss you, but I appreciate your sacrifice. I think I would have liked you better if you weren't being used as the obvious rebound for Casey.

AquaParade 04-24-2019 10:54 AM

I haven't read this series anywhere near consistently since #50.

I think when the collection for this arc comes out, I will use it as a barometer for whether I want to jump back on monthly. I do this every once in a while for this series, but nothing has pulled me back in, as of yet.

CylonsKlingonsDaleksOhMy 04-24-2019 11:10 AM

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Originally Posted by AquaParade (Post 1804325)
I haven't read this series anywhere near consistently since #50.

I think when the collection for this arc comes out, I will use it as a barometer for whether I want to jump back on monthly. I do this every once in a while for this series, but nothing has pulled me back in, as of yet.

Aw man, there have been some great story arcs since #50!
  • Leatherhead's introductory arc in #56-58
  • Bishop's introductory arc in Universe #1-4
  • Karai in Japan in Universe #12-15
  • The Turtles and Foot Clan versus Street Phantoms #61-64
  • Bishop attacking the Turtles and Mutanimals #67-70
  • Trial of Krang's conclusion in #75
  • Donatello trying to broker a peace treaty between Utroms and Triceratons in Universe #21-22
  • Bebop & Rocksteady Destroy Everything #1-5
  • Bishop vs the Turtles, Mutanimals, and Burnow Island #86-88

AquaParade 04-24-2019 11:50 AM

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Originally Posted by CylonsKlingonsDaleksOhMy (Post 1804326)
Aw man, there have been some great story arcs since #50!
  • Leatherhead's introductory arc in #56-58
  • Bishop's introductory arc in Universe #1-4
  • Karai in Japan in Universe #12-15
  • The Turtles and Foot Clan versus Street Phantoms #61-64
  • Bishop attacking the Turtles and Mutanimals #67-70
  • Trial of Krang's conclusion in #75
  • Donatello trying to broker a peace treaty between Utroms and Triceratons in Universe #21-22
  • Bebop & Rocksteady Destroy Everything #1-5
  • Bishop vs the Turtles, Mutanimals, and Burnow Island #86-88

I'm glad you've enjoyed it so much. I imagine if I do hop back on, I may feel inclined to go back and read everything I've missed.

I just have mixed feelings with the series, but I really appreciate what the team behind this book is doing. I can totally imagine how, for some people, this is the perfect TMNT (re)incarnation.

CyberCubed 04-24-2019 03:31 PM

The art of this issue was really good, so many scenes stood out. Especially most of the art on Koya/Bludgeon/Ocho, I can't believe how detailed those shots were. Also liked the art on the humans faces particularly Karai/Jennika/April, etc.

In terms of story I guess the arc is full underway, but I guess it really does make the Leo macro and the previous events of Karai wanting a peaceful transition of power kinda pointless. Even Leo/Koya's fight meant nothing now with Koya forgiving him. Ah well. Also kinda surprised we haven't seen Bebop/Rocksteady yet, Karai technically has 5 animal henchmen at her disposal now along with Natsu. Karai has essentially gone past the point of no return, so I wonder what will happen to her in the coming issues.

I'm also glad they left Bishop/Metalhead out of this issue. They would have just wasted page time here and weren't needed. The Neutrino/Fugitoid page could have been left for a future issue too for that matter. I prefer them focusing on the story at hand then constantly setting up future arcs we won't see unfold for months/years.

TomWaltz 04-24-2019 05:06 PM

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Originally Posted by CyberCubed (Post 1804346)
The Neutrino/Fugitoid page could have been left for a future issue too for that matter. I prefer them focusing on the story at hand then constantly setting up future arcs we won't see unfold for months/years.

Are you 100% sure it has nothing to do with the story at hand............?

Talk soon...

Tom W.

Utrommaniac 04-24-2019 07:56 PM

Ominous as always, Tom. Ominous as always.

daggio 04-24-2019 08:10 PM

The whole Raph thing made me realize something that I kinda noticed back in the Christmas issue and the Macros, that maybe the Turtles are slowly coming to a point where they may go their own separate ways. There were obvious hints here of Raph joining the Mutanimals plus we see Don constantly hanging with Harold and Libby. Mikey being very protective of the orphans may very well lead to something down the road. And of course Leo with his complex relationship with Karai. If it fact Splinter dies (which if the spirit in Shredder in Hell is really Hamato Yoshi and not a spirit posing as him, would then indicate that he has died) maybe that'll be the catalyst for the Turtles to go their separate ways, just like in Mirage volume 4.
I say this jokingly, but maybe when Shredder comes back as the Dragon, he'll take Hob and Bludgeon and turn them into Verminator X and Armaggon (making them that trio from Archie), thus Raph will take over the Mutanimals (like he did of the Foot in Image). :lol:

ChosenOne 04-24-2019 08:23 PM

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Originally Posted by daggio (Post 1804361)
The whole Raph thing made me realize something that I kinda noticed back in the Christmas issue and the Macros, that maybe the Turtles are slowly coming to a point where they may go their own separate ways.

I've thought about that possibility once or twice, maybe as the new status quo after #100. Who knows, it's quite possible.

I could see this being Raph's "start of darkness" too, putting him on the path to taking over and eventually fighting others for the mantle of the Shredder. I've always wanted to see IDW tackle a sprawling, epic arc along those lines.

Utrommaniac 04-24-2019 10:10 PM

You know...now that you mention that, it feels like 101 will have everything changed, but the turtles themselves right back where they started.

Namely, just Raphael on his own trying to make his way in the world while his brothers worry about him.

MikeandRaph87 04-25-2019 05:30 AM

The problem was that we already knew how this would end, Jenika would be stabbed by Karai because she refused to join Karai. The lingering question is whether she like Casey Jones will survive. If someone else has to die I fine with Jenika dying for service to the overall story.

Only way Karai is stopped is by Shredder coming back?

oldmanwinters 04-25-2019 07:37 AM

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Originally Posted by Utrommaniac (Post 1804303)

But the coolest thing of all, WE HAVE A MAP OF TERRITORIES. Not sure what the blue area is, especially since there's no yellow representing mafia/gangs on the map. But it's so cool to see. And will probably change as the story goes along.

I wondered about the Blue Areas too. Thought maybe there had been an editorial error regarding the blue/yellow key.

Weapons@theready 04-25-2019 09:14 AM

Raph and Old Hob/Mutanimals team up? Potential space threat (perhaps Maligna?). Could we be seeing IDWs adaptation of Archie’s Mighty Mutanimals three part miniseries?

MikeandRaph87 04-25-2019 10:44 AM

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Originally Posted by Weapons@theready (Post 1804393)
Raph and Old Hob/Mutanimals team up? Potential space threat (perhaps Maligna?). Could we be seeing IDWs adaptation of Archie’s Mighty Mutanimals three part miniseries?

Well, a mini slot could open up in the Spring after Shredder In Hell wraps up. Its just how would it all fit with the lead up to #100 and Karai wrestling away the control of Thew Foot?

ChosenOne 04-25-2019 10:56 AM

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Originally Posted by MikeandRaph87 (Post 1804401)
Well, a mini slot could open up in the Spring after Shredder In Hell wraps up.

"In the Spring" or "after Shredder in Hell wraps up"? Pick one. :lol:

MikeandRaph87 04-25-2019 11:00 AM

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Originally Posted by ChosenOne (Post 1804404)
"In the Spring" or "after Shredder in Hell wraps up"? Pick one. :lol:

Funny,CHOSEnONE.

ChosenOne 04-25-2019 11:21 AM

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Originally Posted by MikeandRaph87 (Post 1804405)
Funny,CHOSEnONE.

Haha, nice! I used to get that all the time, either as a joke or as a genuine misunderstanding, back when this username was in my personal e-mail address. (Narcissistic? Who's narcissistic? No, you're narcissistic! :lol:)

Back on topic, I do think there was a second mini planned for release during City at War, but the delays of Shredder in Hell nixed those plans. At least for now.


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