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Vicky82 05-13-2019 01:50 PM

Batman vs Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles movie discussion
 
With the movie being released digitally tomorrow, thought it was best to do a separate post for discussion.

Also this thread will have spoilers so don't come in here if you don't want to be spoiled.

Original TMNT Cartoon Fan 05-13-2019 01:55 PM

Great. I like the idea of separating pre-release speculations (like "What will it be about?") with actual post-release discussions ("Did you like it or not?").

DonnieTello 05-14-2019 04:51 AM

I don't normally nerdgasm, but I did when Donnie said bossa nova in this one. Like a genuine involuntary gasp of shock and awe. Oh yeah, and it's a good movie. I would say a little better than Turtles Forever.

newfan 05-14-2019 10:16 AM

Is it wrong that I didn't want to see Batman beat Shredder in their first fight?:lol: Team turtles! Obviously I don't want the side to win though.
Should Shredder have been better against Batman?

I'll say it one last time,.....Donnie's head! Anyway I can get past it, watching the rest of it.

Edit: A lot as I expected, not bad.

Funny how Donnie kept insisting it was 'anti-ooze' and Batgirl called it Retro Mutagen.
Spoiler:
Given the drawing of Splinter we saw in a past story I am kinda glad he wasn't in it, I liked that Leo mentioned him a lot though
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AquaParade 05-14-2019 11:02 AM

If this is the best TMNT cartoon ever made, I'll watch it.

But since that's not too high of a bar, lovely nostalgia aside, I'm really not all that interested otherwise.

Excited to hear what you all think though.

Allio 05-14-2019 12:22 PM

credits was pretty awesome

Spoiler:
They show classic Batman/TMNT comic book covers redone in to incorporate the other team.

For example it showed the Mirage Raphael Micro and instead of Casey Jones it shows Raphael with Nightwing

Vicky82 05-14-2019 01:43 PM

Really enjoyed it and there's possibility of a sequel.

DonnieTello 05-14-2019 01:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Vicky82 (Post 1806182)
Really enjoyed it and there's possibility of a sequel.

There was a sequel tease? That's amazing. Hopefully they adapt Batman vs. TMNT 2 so we can have a Donatello movie.

oldmanwinters 05-14-2019 02:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DonnieTello (Post 1806184)
There was a sequel tease? That's amazing. Hopefully they adapt Batman vs. TMNT 2 so we can have a Donatello movie.

Let's hope they do Donatello more justice if they do adapt that storyline into animation.

Vicky82 05-14-2019 02:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DonnieTello (Post 1806184)
There was a sequel tease? That's amazing. Hopefully they adapt Batman vs. TMNT 2 so we can have a Donatello movie.

Yeah it was after the end credits.

Allio 05-14-2019 02:31 PM

considering it showed

Spoiler:
jokerfied shredder


the sequel will be quite different

newfan 05-14-2019 03:13 PM

I didn't wait for the end to see, not sure I like the sound of what I just read in the post above though.

CylonsKlingonsDaleksOhMy 05-14-2019 03:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Allio (Post 1806193)
considering it showed

Spoiler:
jokerfied shredder


the sequel will be quite different

The Batman Who Laughs versus the Joker Who Shreds: Dawn of WTF

oldmanwinters 05-14-2019 03:31 PM

Can I get a SPOILER'd list of which characters appear in the film?

neatoman 05-14-2019 03:54 PM

Judging from the color pallete and character design, I thought this was gonna be a kids' movie. Imagine my surprise seeing blood gush from a broken nose within the first 8 minutes, imagine the one I got from the guy getting stabbed in the forehead 2 minutes later. Then the... I'm not gonna spoil it but it certainly pushes it over the egde of child friendly. Also "hell" not being substituted with "shell". I kind of assumed Nickelodeon was going loosen the child friendly restrictions for TMNT cartoons sooner or later, I just didn't think it would be this one. Or maybe WB had full creative control over this one, either way I approve.

Speaking of approval, I don't really have any problems with most of the changes from the comic. I don't like that some characters were removed/reduced but otherwise it's fine. The removal of the multiverse aspect is probably for the best, it was such an uninteresting distraction anyway. The implication that the TMNT are part of the DC universe might seem strange but the other DC characters aren't part of it, so it's not really worth thinking about. It's worth it because it means we instead get to see more of Batman and TMNT specific plot devices take a more prominent role.

In general it's a pretty enjoyable movie. Some general issues but I don't expect much from direct-to-video.
Spoiler:
This movie's version of Splinter pretty much has to have the same backstory as in the 1990 movie, right? We see the scars on Shredder's face.

AquaParade 05-14-2019 03:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by neatoman (Post 1806207)
Judging from the color pallete and character design, I thought this was gonna be a kids' movie. Imagine my surprise seeing blood gush from a broken nose within the first 8 minutes, imagine the one I got from the guy getting stabbed in the forehead 2 minutes later. Then the... I'm not gonna spoil it but it certainly pushes it over the egde of child friendly. Also "hell" not being substituted with "shell". I kind of assumed Nickelodeon was going loosen the child friendly restrictions for TMNT cartoons sooner or later, I just didn't think it would be this one. Or maybe WB had full creative control over this one, either way I approve.

Speaking of approval, I don't really have any problems with most of the changes from the comic. I don't like that some characters were removed/reduced but otherwise it's fine. The removal of the multiverse aspect is probably for the best, it was such an uninteresting distraction anyway. The implication that the TMNT are part of the DC universe might seem strange but the other DC characters aren't part of it, so it's not really worth thinking about. It's worth it because it means we instead get to see more of Batman and TMNT specific plot devices take a more prominent role.

In general it's a pretty enjoyable movie. Some general issues but I don't expect much from direct-to-video.
Spoiler:
This movie's version of Splinter pretty much has to have the same backstory as in the 1990 movie, right? We see the scars on Shredder's face.

Hell, maybe I will buy this today just to show support. It's not like I think swearing and blood are integral to good TMNT stories, but anything that sends a signal to Nick/Viacom that adults are willing to pay for TMNT, I'm down to support.

Sabacooza 05-14-2019 04:48 PM

One little thing I found kind of cool was when Shredder first jumped down to meet Batman. It was very reminiscent of the 1990 movie when Shredder jumped down into frame in slow motion. That's a nice little nod to the original movie.

I'm sure there's loads of other Easter eggs in this.

lonewarrior20 05-14-2019 05:34 PM

loved it, there were so many Easter eggs in this one. anyone else spot the bit of mikey nun-chucking from the opening of the original animated series?

neatoman 05-15-2019 05:22 AM

Come to think of it, this isn't just the most violent animated TMNT adaptation, it has to be the most violent adaptation period. No matter how hard I try to remember, I don't think any of them depicted humans getting stabbed and cut, certainly not with gushing blood. The closest I can remember is robots and green/yellow blooded monsters getting cut, or at the very least it happened off-screen if it was a person. Like when Mashimi dies in the 4Kids show, we know Yoshi cut him, we just don't see it happen or the wound.

sdp 05-15-2019 09:36 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by neatoman (Post 1806259)
Come to think of it, this isn't just the most violent animated TMNT adaptation, it has to be the most violent adaptation period. No matter how hard I try to remember, I don't think any of them depicted humans getting stabbed and cut, certainly not with gushing blood. The closest I can remember is robots and green/yellow blooded monsters getting cut, or at the very least it happened off-screen if it was a person. Like when Mashimi dies in the 4Kids show, we know Yoshi cut him, we just don't see it happen or the wound.

It's cool to see that Viacom will allow this, maybe a more adult adaptation could be made one day.

shredder orokusaki 05-15-2019 10:38 AM

I will beat Bamtan. Yes you see blood because i cut evryone in pieces! That why iam THE SHREDDER!

Ashwolf 05-15-2019 11:28 AM

Best tmnt movie yet imo. Didnt care for a few of the nods thrown in there but the action, characterization, and bits toward character growth do more than make up for it.

Gotta say though, wasnt expecting a animated version to come around so soon that actually had blood in it but yay that it did! Finally some progress toward getting a darker, adult version.

Purse Grabbin Puke 05-15-2019 12:34 PM

1990 TMNT will always be #1 to me, but this was absolutely fantastic. Best TMNT movie since 1990. Only small problem I had was the way the Turtles looked. But it was so good I got over it very quickly. I will be buying this on Bluray because I will rewatch this many times.

neatoman 05-15-2019 12:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by shredder orokusaki (Post 1806278)
I will beat Bamtan. Yes you see blood because i cut evryone in pieces! That why iam THE SHREDDER!

I don't know who Bamtan is, nor does Google yield any results as to who Bamtan is. Who or what is is Bamtan? How does one beat Bamtan?

Ashwolf 05-15-2019 01:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by neatoman (Post 1806291)
I don't know who Bamtan is, nor does Google yield any results as to who Bamtan is. Who or what is is Bamtan? How does one beat Bamtan?

My guess is by bashing him with a pan :lol:

Turnstone 05-15-2019 02:59 PM

Am I reaching or was that one scene where one of the turtles throws a foot soldier toward the screen a nod to turtles in time? The way he looked while hurtling toward the screen look just like the video game.

jignat 05-15-2019 04:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Turnstone (Post 1806305)
Am I reaching or was that one scene where one of the turtles throws a foot soldier toward the screen a nod to turtles in time? The way he looked while hurtling toward the screen look just like the video game.

Do the TMNT curse in this?

Chaotix12345 05-15-2019 04:39 PM

Leo says "Hell." Can't remember if there were any others.

Vicky82 05-15-2019 11:28 PM

I think Mikey says Crap, during the fight with Batman.

CylonsKlingonsDaleksOhMy 05-16-2019 09:34 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Vicky82 (Post 1806348)
I think Mikey says Crap, during the fight with Batman.

The foulmouthed scalawag. Has he no decency!?

Venom 05-16-2019 07:04 PM

So I just watched the “Suit up” trailer to this and loved the callback to the original TMNT opening with the guys on the rooftop in the same poses at back then!!

Zog The Magnificent 05-16-2019 11:14 PM

That was really good. Much better than I was expecting, actually. I'm glad they took time with the mutant Arkham inmates this time around, and I really hope this ends up leading to more movies of this caliber. My one complaint was that they kept mispronouncing Ra's Al Ghul, which wouldn't have been as annyoying if they hadn't pronouced it correctly a few times.

Filespit 05-17-2019 02:06 AM

Watched it yesterday, really enjoyed it! It's probably the best on-screen-adaptation of the Turtles so far, it's the perfect balance between being serious and comedic. There are some serious fan service moments as well, which I certainly enjoyed. The Turtles' design aren't perfect though, I will never understand why this modern-day Donatello has to be tall and slinky, or why Raphael has to be big and square-shaped, but you get used to it quite quickly and we've seen far worse over the years. All in all I'm pleased with what I got, and I'm certainly hoping we get either a sequel or a standalone TMNT movie in the same style as this one.

AlessandraDC 05-17-2019 03:33 PM

Castle Rock reference
 
Was there a Castle Rock reference thrown in or would that be too much of a stretch? One of the actors is Noel Fisher...

Sobble 05-17-2019 05:33 PM

:tgrin::P:D I can't wait to buy this movie on Blu-ray or DVD I might watch it along with my rise of the teenage mutant Ninja turtles DVD

DVD 05-18-2019 05:19 AM

Great movie.
Since the comics came out, I always hoped that they would follow through with a movie. Glad they did, and glad they didn’t disappoint on any level.

Now, will they do another one next year?

Jester 05-18-2019 11:48 AM

Despite his limited screen time, I love Baxter in this.

sdp 05-20-2019 11:21 AM

Finally watched it and liked it a lot even if I didn't love it. I'm a big fan of both batman and tmnt but as I've said in the past not a fan of these two crossing over with each other. Haven't read any of the previous crossovers but counting there's 4 and they're in injustice 2, the TMNT are no strangers to the DCU anymore.

As a batman movie it's fairly mediocre but as a TMNT movie it's fairly decent. Even with so many characters almost all got a small time to shine. You don't see the personalities of the turtles too much, especially Donnie/Raph but it's fine. The character designs worked much better in motion as well. Seeing the batman rogues mutated was actually much cooler than I thought and it worked really well. Shredder was simply badass, didn't like his voice, the other voices were good. Joker Shredder ending is not something I wanna see in a sequel but as an ending we don't see more of it's ok.

I'd love a full series of TMNT with these TMNT and that Shredder, I feel an actual show could make use of the darker setting but at the same time let the turtles be a bit more light hearted without being in Gotham city. That design of Barbara Gordon would make the perfect April O'Neil as well. A Batman show with these designs would be fine but not my ideal. I do hope we get a Batman VS TMNT 2 down the line as I'd love to see more of this, maybe Batman going to NYC?

MsMarvelDuckie 05-20-2019 03:00 PM

Is there anyplace to watch this online? I want to see it, but reaaly don't want to wait until it comes out on dvd/br.

AquaParade 05-20-2019 07:02 PM

Am I wrong to be surprised at how little discussion this garnered? I knew this place wasn't very populated these days, but this seems like a semi-noteworthy event for the TMNT compared to the amount of talk on here.


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