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ZariusTwo 05-13-2019 03:23 PM

Mr. Ratburn Comes Out In Arthur Season Premiere
 
The season premiere of the latest runs sees Arthur's teacher Mr. Ratburn get married, and come out.

https://tvline.com/2019/05/13/arthur...dding-episode/

Utrommaniac 05-13-2019 03:45 PM

The rumor come out, does Mr Ratburn is gay?

But like...not that much of a surprise, tbh...

Autbot_Benz 05-13-2019 03:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Utrommaniac (Post 1806101)
The rumor come out, does Mr Ratburn is gay?

Game Grumps reference I Love it you get a gold star

Utrommaniac 05-13-2019 04:26 PM

Ah, the whole article is a thing of magnificence right down to the author's name, but it seems to have disappeared from the internet

Allio 05-13-2019 05:25 PM

hardly anything special, Arthur has always been pretty progressive and mature with it's theme. The cancer and alzheimer's episodes really stick out.

Utrommaniac 05-14-2019 01:04 AM

So, I watched the episode, and it was pretty much just the kids thinking he was marrying Jane Lynch until the very end, and trying to stop the wedding because they thought she was an absolute harpy, and thought she'd be bad to him. So they try to get her to call off the wedding in increasingly "haha look what these crazy eight year olds are getting up to" ways to the adults.

Turns out she was the wedding planner/officiate/older sister.

Husband's a baker, who owns his own confectionery shop, which was just...of course Ratburn would marry a baker with how much he loves cake :lol:

Voltron 05-14-2019 01:07 AM

I'm thrilled they're still making Arthur. But Ratburn coming "out" isn't news. The dude's as fabulous as one can comfortably get on a kids' show.

Now, if DW dies in every episode this season, you'll have my ass glued to the TV. That's the direction this show should be taking.

Leofan26 05-14-2019 11:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Voltron (Post 1806146)
I'm thrilled they're still making Arthur. But Ratburn coming "out" isn't news. The dude's as fabulous as one can comfortably get on a kids' show.

Now, if DW dies in every episode this season, you'll have my ass glued to the TV. That's the direction this show should be taking.

Than it'd be focused on her character and every one crying over her, why would you want that? : (

I didn't think of the teacher in that way, I always just thought he was a cool guy and fun to watch teach the class, than when your little ages 8 - 10 you don't think much about it with these types of shows. Later shows as in tween or teens or young adults you start thinking maybe?

This show is starting to reach these stories, that's cool.

Voltron 05-15-2019 04:51 AM

In my version, every episode would end with a huge party celebrating her grizzly demise.

The best episode ever was when Arthur punched her in the arm.


As for characters, it's fun to see the diversity in the show. Every so often, they drop some hint to a character's background and it's always fun to be shocked in that way.

For example, I think The Brain's parents are from Ethiopia. That was a cool little tidbit they through in.

Refractive Reflections 05-15-2019 01:05 PM

This progressive kid's show now needs to show polyamorous and incest romantic relationships of consenting adults, otherwise they are hypocritical bigots.

...Because after all "love is love", right?

Candy Kappa 05-15-2019 01:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Refractive Reflections (Post 1806293)
This progressive kid's show now needs to show polyamorous and incest romantic relationships of consenting adults, otherwise they are hypocritical bigots.

...Because after all "love is love", right?

https://media.giphy.com/media/OSf7gD...Nzy3/giphy.gif

KROW 05-15-2019 03:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Refractive Reflections (Post 1806293)
This progressive kid's show now needs to show polyamorous and incest romantic relationships of consenting adults, otherwise they are hypocritical bigots.

...Because after all "love is love", right?

https://img.photobucket.com/albums/v...22.31%20PM.png

Turo602 05-15-2019 04:01 PM

I once joked they should do a school shooting episode where George is the shooter and one where Binky gets molested... I'll let myself out.

Allio 05-15-2019 04:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Refractive Reflections (Post 1806293)
This progressive kid's show now needs to show polyamorous and incest romantic relationships of consenting adults, otherwise they are hypocritical bigots.

...Because after all "love is love", right?

I mean there are plenty of animals that that has incest

sdp 05-17-2019 09:20 AM

Arthur only began in 1996? I never liked it as a kid since it felt like a very early 90s cartoon whenever I first saw it on tv, surprised it's still running since I probably thought they were already reruns when I was a kid. I was more of a Franklin guy.

Anywho if the episode was done tastefully I don't see much of a problem. A simple, "some people marry even if they're the same sex" message is digestable enough for kids. I felt in other kids shows it's been done far more forced or random. Also isn't this a political thread?

Candy Kappa 05-17-2019 09:40 AM

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Originally Posted by sdp (Post 1806479)
Also isn't this a political thread?

Arthur is politics?

sdp 05-17-2019 09:46 AM

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Originally Posted by Candy Kappa (Post 1806482)
Arthur is politics?

You could argue the same points to most of Andrew's threads and sure he baited far more than this topic did but there has to be consistency.

Candy Kappa 05-17-2019 10:34 AM

Oh sure, by the likes of The Usual Suspects™, just being queer and exist we are political

ZariusTwo 05-17-2019 12:04 PM

I didn't intend it to be political, it's just a nice wrinkle to a childhood favourite is all.

sdp 05-17-2019 12:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Candy Kappa (Post 1806487)
Oh sure, by the likes of The Usual Suspects™, just being queer and exist we are political

There has never been a thread about Arthur here before, because it's not a forum about arthur and no one has ever wanted to discuss Arthur, the only reason this is a topic is because it's political. If it were April being a lesbian then it's relevant and not political in nature necessarily, hell even Batwoman is something discussed here and it's not political.

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Originally Posted by ZariusTwo (Post 1806491)
I didn't intend it to be political, it's just a nice wrinkle to a childhood favourite is all.

The OP wasn't baity like say Andrew's threads but counting the history of political threads and only now clearing up somewhat I do think it's best avoided, you already have Candy Kappa being outraged for pointing this out.

Candy Kappa 05-17-2019 01:17 PM

bitch please, get out with the "outrage" BS. Your comment was eyerolling at best

Allio 05-17-2019 02:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Candy Kappa (Post 1806487)
Oh sure, by the likes of The Usual Suspects™, just being queer and exist we are political

I think the problem is that it’s those that makes it bigger than it seems, especially in news outlets trying to get those clicks (both pro and against are equally bad about this.)

For me equality is about creating the status quo, but those people make it out to be the “exception.” Hell once again Arthur does it the best with Ratburn, showing it isn’t a grad thing as it’s treated as part of the norm, but then you have those websites that had to ruin it and make it something bigger than it is.

ZariusTwo 05-17-2019 02:55 PM

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Originally Posted by sdp (Post 1806492)
The OP wasn't baity like say Andrew's threads but counting the history of political threads and only now clearing up somewhat I do think it's best avoided, you already have Candy Kappa being outraged for pointing this out.

On your bike. This was not intended to be political, and now you're trying to make it political.

snake 05-17-2019 03:28 PM

Not gonna lie that motherf*cker was always pretty gay

Allio 05-17-2019 04:47 PM

I want to say he is bi-, I mean I believe there was an answer about him and Buster’s mother.

sdp 05-17-2019 10:51 PM

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Originally Posted by ZariusTwo (Post 1806505)
On your bike. This was not intended to be political, and now you're trying to make it political.

Very true, I started it by casually mentioning it at the end of my post but I wasn't the one who completely derailed the thread making it all about that. So yeah in a way it all needed one person to get outraged by one comment for it to turn to trash like say the Andrew threads which ironically was what I was trying to point out.

Leo656 05-17-2019 11:07 PM

Slanderous filth. Andrew is an institution.

Autbot_Benz 05-17-2019 11:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Refractive Reflections (Post 1806293)
This progressive kid's show now needs to show polyamorous and incest romantic relationships of consenting adults, otherwise they are hypocritical bigots.

...Because after all "love is love", right?

https://i.imgur.com/87yEXzq.jpg

Utrommaniac 05-17-2019 11:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Allio (Post 1806515)
I want to say he is bi-, I mean I believe there was an answer about him and Buster’s mother.

Not really. She pretty much shut down all of Buster's concerns that they were dating in one episode.

Allio 05-17-2019 11:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Utrommaniac (Post 1806554)
Not really. She pretty much shut down all of Buster's concerns that they were dating in one episode.

okay, I could not remember. I think I had only watched a handful of episodes since I originally stopped watching it. Which of course were the three big ones, the one where Binky babysits Emily (cute episode) and a couple of the post-season 15, just to clarify if flash animation was really a mistake.

my only problem with this episode is I feel like at least Ratburn's husband should have appeared in a previous episode. It just feels like he is here just because of the wedding punchline (that Ratburn isn't marring the person the kids didn't like, but the one they do like.)

Utrommaniac 05-18-2019 12:40 AM

I think it was a classic episode?

Buster found out his mom was dating, but didn't know who, and somehow came to the conclusion that Mr Ratburn was dating his mom. Which he catastrophized as meaning his life would be Constant School Hell (as they always seem to do for some reason, despite the constant evidence that he's a Normal Dude outside of work).

And while he was down on his knees begging his mom to not marry Mr Ratburn, her reaction came down to "what makes you think I'm dating him???"

ZariusTwo 05-21-2019 01:10 PM

Alabama PBS stations are refusing to air the episode

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-48350023

Vegita-San 05-21-2019 02:51 PM

i find it interesting that this post is allowed, but some of andrews posts aren't. 'combative' or not.

it's one side of the political spectrum that's trying to politicize these types of things, and that's why these types of posts should probably fall under the same banner.

if it where not for that, I agree that it should be open for discussion.
it's almost impossible not to talk about tv shows these days without it. look at the new she-ra.

Autbot_Benz 05-21-2019 03:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Vegita-San (Post 1806918)
i find it interesting that this post is allowed, but some of andrews posts aren't. 'combative' or not.

it's one side of the political spectrum that's trying to politicize these types of things, and that's why these types of posts should probably fall under the same banner.

if it where not for that, I agree that it should be open for discussion.
it's almost impossible not to talk about tv shows these days without it. look at the new she-ra.

All of Andrew's political posts are right wing bait posts this one is talking about an episode of a children's TV show that is showing gay marriage its not that hard to understand :roll:

KROW 05-21-2019 04:26 PM

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In a statement, Mr McKenzie said "parents trust that their children can watch APT without their supervision", and that children "younger than the 'target' audience" might watch without parental knowledge.
There's the problem, right there.

Seriously, this whole thing should be a non-issue. Gay people exist; grow up and get over it. If they want to get married and be miserable like the rest of us, let 'em have at it. There's really no harm in it. It can even be a beneficial. I mean, married couples sometimes file taxes jointly, sometimes putting them into a higher tax bracket and therefore sometimes paying the government more. You'd think it'd be encouraged. Win-win. But, alas, some state governments have to hide behind the Holly Bibble and prevent progress. It's a shame, really.

You wanna talk about spectrums... I have a cousin who's gay. He's married and is helping raise a child, meaning he's technically a stepfather. He also goes to church. The three of them went to Seaworld recently and had a great time. I saw the pictures. Kid had a blast and was all smiles. I'm happy for them. I also have a gay friend that I've known for almost 30 years. He's single, goes clubbing, and dresses like a weirdo. I'm happy for him, too. They're both living their best life and I'll be damned if I'd see it change for the worse. They deserve it just like everyone else.

That said, Alabama is f**king stupid. And that's not even an opinion; it's statistically true.

Autbot_Benz 05-21-2019 05:18 PM

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Originally Posted by KROW (Post 1806941)
There's the problem, right there.

That said, Alabama is f**king stupid. And that's not even an opinion; it's statistically true.

agreed facts for days. they refuse to join us in the 21st century

ProactiveMan 05-24-2019 12:34 AM

Wait, wait, wait a minute?! They're still making new episodes of Arthur?!

sdp 05-24-2019 12:53 AM

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Originally Posted by ZariusTwo (Post 1806913)
Alabama PBS stations are refusing to air the episode

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-48350023

Censorship comes from either extreme.

Refractive Reflections 05-30-2019 02:11 AM

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Originally Posted by Candy Kappa (Post 1806295)

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Originally Posted by Autbot_Benz (Post 1806553)

Are we really going to get on a hypocritical moral high horse here? One form of marriage/relationship seems tolerable now in the West (when it wasn't and was seen as abhorrent 1-2 generations ago), while another is seen as just as repulsive today even if all parties are consenting?

I mean if people object to consenting adult incest relationships and polyamorous marriages, then I guess it reflects how closed-minded, and possibly racist they are too if the foundation of the gay marriage argument is: all in the marriage are consenting adults and "love is love". Because there are other cultures in the world, where that argument of marriage can apply as well with polygamy, polygyny, polyandry, and first cousin marriages.

Talk about double standards from those in the LGBT community and its advocates. I guess redefining marriage is only suitable, when it's for their idealized view, and not for any greater form of marriage equality. Congratulations on them for now being the same marital bigots that they criticized (criticizing those advocating only monogamous, heterosexual relationships) less than 5 years ago.

So it's time for this cartoon to reflect these other forms of love expression, and show the diversity of romantic relationships from other cultures!

ProactiveMan 05-30-2019 02:41 AM

You're not giving the show enough credit there, it was also an inter-species union.


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